Katz: 'Assault in Iran is an option, Israel and Saudi Arabia have a common interest'

[Rukarl]

Shah and Savak asked Iraq to send him to France not him neither France ... he wanted to go to Kuwait and then Syria but as far as Shah wanted him to be far far away from Iran to make communication with him harder France was chosen ... on the other hand there was a heavy pressure on Kuwait to not let him in .. so they went to France he stayed in France Just for 3 months while he fought against Shah and his father for more than 4 decades ... and French government prohibited any kind of political activity by him but Khumani replied first it against democracy you claim you have and second if you don't permit it I would go another country ... he was in exile for 15 years where the hell France fits in all this?

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

 

[925boy]

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

Bro, why do you come on this forum when you have clearly shown you cant have discussions with people who have different opinions about Iran(especially leadership) than you??? I know this because the last exchange we had you completely failed. your brain went complete MANIC and you acted like a small child. we are not the ones with problems, YOU are. grow up and learn to not throw fits or act passive aggressive just because you heard something yo dont agree with. On paper, you are 100% "right", but in reality your ideas have proven to be false and unpopular. cheers.

 

[Ultima Thule]

for people like you and @seven0seven who actually lack knowledge about Iranian capabilities and motives, i suggest you read historical threads on here or search google. y'all are too uneducated to be taught on this forum.

Hyper power of the Universe IRAN, we know what are you did in Past and doing currently

 

[raptor22]

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

How on Earth stating history makes me terrorist?

 

[Cthulhu]

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

You are a literal terrorist supporter that were cheering for terrorists on this very site when they were killing Iranian children, I just want to know how a guy like you lives with himself? How you wake up in the morning, See yourself in the mirror and don't throw up in your mouth?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Israel is always mentioning KSA publicly (deliberately) but Israel plays no role for KSA. KSA and Iran have had disputes on and off since the Mullahs gained power in 1979. Has nothing to do with Israel. But the relations are not so bad that some Iranian official was recently in KSA to sign a deal concerning Hajj and Umrah. No wars either in the past 40 years and a war is highly unlikely as it would not benefit either party. Status quo suits KSA find. The ball is at the Mullah’s court. Engage normally with neighboring Arab countries or continue to live in internal misery by large.

Iran can wipe the floor with saudi arabia. it would be insane for them to try something stupid.

That never happened once in history. On the other hand Arabs from modern day KSA conquered all of Iran and ruled it for centuries and changed it forever on almost every front with changes felt here 1400 years later. Nice joke though.


Contrary to popular belief, Arabs, Saudi Arabians, do not hate nor like Iranians. Most people know nothing about the country and when they see Iranians in person or on television they often look like fellow Arabs.

There is a complex/ingrained hatred the other way around from substantial parts of Iranian society against Arabs due to the historical realities that I alluded to. Many Iranians blame all their domestic failures and problems on Arabs and even the Mullahs in power are called Arabs.

KSA alone has a larger economy than Iran (almost twice as big with 45 million less people and no taxation and many moronic laws, luckily MBA has removed 90% of them nowadays) and KSA is a much bigger country so that is impossible to fully control by anyone not named USA/China/Russia and that only in theory too.

Let alone the Arab world. 550 million people (quickly growing unlike in Iran, soon Iraq and Yemen alone will have larger populations than Iran), 20+ countries, landmass size of Russia, untold riches and 100 times larger firepower.

But continue to live in your delusion, Sri Lankan troll. Speaking about Sri Lanka, Arabs ruled it once/had a presence and Sri Lankan Moors to this day PROUDLY claim partial Arab ancestry. Must hurt you. So go fight them first.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

The GCC, Egypt and other Arab states should adopt a modern pan-Arab approach towards their fellow neighbors, one that doesn't attempt to dominate other Arab states as Nasser and Ba'ath Iraq did, but it has to be a lot more aggressive than today's policy which is best described as; idle.

As for Iraq, it went off course completely since 2003's regime change. In the right environment, that is without Iran's heavy interference, without Al-Zarqawi's insane ideology and without the retarded exiled bunch that came to govern Iraq. The country should have integrated with the GCC as a fellow Arab and Gulf neighboring state whilst modernizing.

Lebanon and Iraq are in exactly the same situation, semi-stable but hijacked internally by its own constitution and system. Multiple military forces and 'good' relations with everyone out there. Massive protests in both states, but very unlikely to see major change apart from governments resigning. The system will remain, the only way to remove it is by extreme measures which are either a military coup, heavy foreign interference or a civil war. The latter would not do any good as neighbors will be fueling it and interference will skyrocket.

The region won't see stability if Arab states don't align with one another, form alliances and create a force that can maintain the stability in this region. Anything else will not work, Turkey's interference in Arab states is not welcomed and rejected continuously, likewise, Iran's interference is experiencing a negative response by Iraq's Shias.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

The GCC, Egypt and other Arab states should adopt a modern pan-Arab approach towards their fellow neighbors, one that doesn't attempt to dominate other Arab states as Nasser and Ba'ath Iraq did, but it has to be a lot more aggressive than today's policy which is best described as; idle.

As for Iraq, it went off course completely since 2003's regime change. In the right environment, that is without Iran's heavy interference, without Al-Zarqawi's insane ideology and without the retarded exiled bunch that came to govern Iraq. The country should have integrated with the GCC as a fellow Arab and Gulf neighboring state whilst modernizing.

Lebanon and Iraq are in exactly the same situation, semi-stable but hijacked internally by its own constitution and system. Multiple military forces and 'good' relations with everyone out there. Massive protests in both states, but very unlikely to see major change apart from governments resigning. The system will remain, the only way to remove it is by extreme measures which are either a military coup, heavy foreign interference or a civil war. The latter would not do any good as neighbors will be fueling it and interference will skyrocket.

The region won't see stability if Arab states don't align with one another, form alliances and create a force that can maintain the stability in this region. Anything else will not work, Turkey's interference in Arab states is not welcomed and rejected continuously, likewise, Iran's interference is experiencing a negative response by Iraq's Shias.

Regional Arab integration is the most important thing as the Arab world is too vast for 1 single Arab country/entity to dominate events (not been the case for ages) and most of the challenges, problems and solutions require regional Arab solutions. Unfortunately most of the regimes in power, if not all, worry about their own throne before anything else. Like anywhere else. However in say Europe, something like the EU emerged after the internal infighting and horrors of WW2 (60 million casualties). There has not been anything remotely similar in the Arab world. ISIS, a few civil wars and prior to that wars against the Zionists which united the Arab regimes due to pressure from locals and the ideology of those in power.

The Arab street (people) want what we want (vast majority regardless of ideology) but the rulers see no need to implement such visions which could endanger their grip on power.

If/when the region gets really heated and big consequencees follow, things will change for the better.

We saw relatively peaceful revolutions in Algeria (military still controlling things but progress) and massive protests in both Iraq and Lebanon and demands of big changes.

Iraq and Lebanon face many of the same problems. Relatively weak central states, nonsense secterian political system, outside meddling and lack of genuine patriotic leaders.

If not for Saddam and the Iraq-Iran war, Iraq would have been a founding GCC state and it would have been the most advanced and wealthiest alongside Kuwait and KSA and much of what follower after 1979 would probably not have occured.

The solution in Iraq is for patriots to take power (military), do a much needed cleaning up (remove the useless constitution, remove all Mullah interference etc.) and clean up the old useless guard and political parties (ban every party following foreign orders) and open up for elections after a few years of cleaning up. Sadly not realistic but things really need to change. Cannot go on like this for another 16 years. No doubt after what we are takling about oxccuring eventually, question will be how much time will be wasted, lives and potential progress.

BTW even in recent years there have been a significant GCC (KSA, Kuwait and UAE mainly but not only) Iraq reproachement which says everything about what the future has in store given that all odds against such closeness (ties are now cordial with elites that fought against their country in the 1980’s and de facto against KSA) were low not long ago. Only sharing almost everything in common prevented this unnatural situation to continue and once the people will decide, the relations will reach levels 1 billion times higher. Goes for the entire Arab world.

Forgot about the very positive revolution in Sudan.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

Shah was too busy running with his tail between his legs for his worthless life! What a great shah you had there. Fucking disgrace!

 

[Sina-1]

The GCC, Egypt and other Arab states should adopt a modern pan-Arab approach towards their fellow neighbors, one that doesn't attempt to dominate other Arab states as Nasser and Ba'ath Iraq did, but it has to be a lot more aggressive than today's policy which is best described as; idle.

As for Iraq, it went off course completely since 2003's regime change. In the right environment, that is without Iran's heavy interference, without Al-Zarqawi's insane ideology and without the retarded exiled bunch that came to govern Iraq. The country should have integrated with the GCC as a fellow Arab and Gulf neighboring state whilst modernizing.

Lebanon and Iraq are in exactly the same situation, semi-stable but hijacked internally by its own constitution and system. Multiple military forces and 'good' relations with everyone out there. Massive protests in both states, but very unlikely to see major change apart from governments resigning. The system will remain, the only way to remove it is by extreme measures which are either a military coup, heavy foreign interference or a civil war. The latter would not do any good as neighbors will be fueling it and interference will skyrocket.

The region won't see stability if Arab states don't align with one another, form alliances and create a force that can maintain the stability in this region. Anything else will not work, Turkey's interference in Arab states is not welcomed and rejected continuously, likewise, Iran's interference is experiencing a negative response by Iraq's Shias.

Iran interfered when isis had almost run
over Iraq. It cost us blood and recourses. Your gcc Arab brethren were not only cheering on the side line but heavily supporting the venom in your country.
Iran wants stability in the region. We have so much resources that it is well enough for us. Take responsibility for your security and we rather see a strong Iraq with massive trade with its neighbors than a weak one not being able to progress because of poor governance and defense. The latter is costly for Iran while the former will benefit Iran.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Iran interfered when isis had almost run
over Iraq. It cost us blood and recourses. Your gcc Arab brethren were not only cheering on the side line but heavily supporting the venom in your country.
Iran wants stability in the region. We have so much resources that it is well enough for us. Take responsibility for your security and we rather see a strong Iraq with massive trade with its neighbors than a weak one not being able to progress because of poor governance and defense. The latter is costly for Iran while the former will benefit Iran.

Iraq cannot be stable and secure with the current heavy Iranian interference. And we wouldn't need Iranian aid had the government been free from Iranian interference.

These arguments do not change or diminish the issues I stated, it's like the US saying how they sent their air force and helped us against IS. Whilst look at what they did in the decades prior.

 

[Sina-1]

Iraq cannot be stable and secure with the current heavy Iranian interference. And we wouldn't need Iranian aid had the government been free from Iranian interference.

Do not blame your weakness on Iran. You are weak because your country is divided. You need a sense of unity. It cannot be ethnic based because of the majority of the country is arab, 1/3 of your country is kurdish and a lot of other minorities. It cannot be religious based either because shia/sunni. I don't have any good answers for you, that is up to you and your people to figure out. However I know that as long as you cannot unite, rats such as ISIS will cut through your lines with ease.

These arguments do not change or diminish the issues I stated, it's like the US saying how they sent their air force and helped us against IS. Whilst look at what they did in the decades prior.

This statement is incredibly offensive. Iran has unlike US not been involved in pre-emptive attacks on your soil. We were invited to come in and clean up your mess. We were not responsible for either Saddam or what came after him.

 

[dani92]

Go thank your god that Shah didn't assassinate that piece of shit terrorist. He was too merciful on your terrorist kind.

Yes the so called shah was idiot he should done what khomieni thugs done later. He wasn’t though like his father or ataturk, Saddam, Hafez al Assad , Nasser, etc.

 

[Godman]

Speaking about Sri Lanka, Arabs ruled it onc

Today in history taken out of an ***. So name one Arab ruler of Sri Lanka... Go on, one name.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Do not blame your weakness on Iran. You are weak because your country is divided. You need a sense of unity. It cannot be ethnic based because of the majority of the country is arab, 1/3 of your country is kurdish and a lot of other minorities. It cannot be religious based either because shia/sunni. I don't have any good answers for you, that is up to you and your people to figure out. However I know that as long as you cannot unite, rats such as ISIS will cut through your lines with ease.



This statement is incredibly offensive. Iran has unlike US not been involved in pre-emptive attacks on your soil. We were invited to come in and clean up your mess. We were not responsible for either Saddam or what came after him.

There's no division in Iraq on the population level. It's the political system that functions on a sect-based quota hence enabling division.

What part is hard for you to understand when I state that Iran's political interference in Iraq is a negative, if you disagree with me what will you say to those protesting out there all these months. I'm explaining something to you here so that you understand, you're not in the position to disagree when people in Iraq are protesting the same thing. Unless.. you happen to know better than them, in that case maybe I should start explaining Iran to you since I know better.

There is a strong sense of unity, if there wasn't the country would've fallen apart long ago. However Kurds definitely are not a part of us, they're different people and we all accept that.