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Kasur Child Abuse Case: Protesters Throw Shoes At IG Punjab

The incompetencies of the Pakistani Police Force is a topic one could write a few books on. It starts with the selection process, bribes for promotions & postings, all the way to the top. Rotten to the core.

Yes its is one institution you can say rotten to the core... There is a complete acceptance that the police always looks out for themselves and does not punish their own people if they can help it thus the police even the constable are not afraid of prosecution and punishment. This environment has lead to a severe increase in police corruption and police activities in crime.

You get good individuals sometimes like in sheikhupura there was DIG zulfiqar cheema who , tired of the corrupt judiciary and system, decided to start using encounter in killing criminals even those that are in jails... The led to a decrease in crime. He also killed a top gang leader who had completely shut off an area and wrote a sign board , yes a sign board , out in the open that police are not allowed enter. However when he left , became IG motorway I think , crime rose again and now its reaching its peak again...
 
Shows the intellectual level of the Pakistani Public.

It's sad how some parties are trying to spin this for scoring political points.
Why don't you come to Qasoor and get a bit of the rotten system by just supporting the just demand for justice then I will ask you about the so called intellectuality. Pathetic and inhuman.
 
How ? Make a poll here u majority will tell u this is common in Pakistan. Happens in every school, mudarrasa , street etc. Difference here is they made movies and used to blackmail and earn money.

We as Nation dont care as long its not me who is effected and we start to talk and make fun of victims.

Others too make in other parts of country, but they haven't been exposed yet. This was going on for 5 years. Imagine how longer and how many more cities this could be happening. If judges give strict sentences to police MPA whoever is involved, watch police in all over country and MPA will stop protecting rapists.

Military court should be used for trying these criminals. Raping a child is as awful as killing a child, so punishment should be same which is capital punishment.
 
i have always said Punjab Police is worst then Israeli defense forces even without f-16's at their disposal and phosphorus cluster bombs ,these police F shoot innocent protestors oppress the oppressed ,like i don't blame hamas for having vengaence in their mind for IDF ,i don't blame any pakistani or would ever report him if he holds a will for bloody vengance against these Btd burn in hell punjab police may no kala wardi wala live F locusts for pakistan exterminate them once and for all we don't need this police mafia
 
Believe me noting will happen. 1 or maximum 2 weeks topi drama by media and our politicians than everything is forgotten. Any one who raised voice against local police and big guns will get lesson for there life....

What happened to killers of Sialkot boys ? Noting ....
 
Why don't you come to Qasoor and get a bit of the rotten system by just supporting the just demand for justice then I will ask you about the so called intellectuality. Pathetic and inhuman.
There are many ways that the system can be fixed.

Throwing shoes at police officers isn't one of them.

Hence, level of intellectuality.
 
There are many ways that the system can be fixed.

Throwing shoes at police officers isn't one of them.

Hence, level of intellectuality.
I would send your request to the victims that they should have welcomed these wolves in police uniforms with Dhol Dhamka, Fireworks, and petals. It doesn't matter if these wolves have been protecting the pigs like child molesters.

i have always said Punjab Police is worst then Israeli defense forces even without f-16's at their disposal and phosphorus cluster bombs ,these police F shoot innocent protestors oppress the oppressed ,like i don't blame hamas for having vengaence in their mind for IDF ,i don't blame any pakistani or would ever report him if he holds a will for bloody vengance against these Btd burn in hell punjab police may no kala wardi wala live F locusts for pakistan exterminate them once and for all we don't need this police mafia
Exactly, the urban audience have no clue how a S.H.O acts in villages and backward areas. The day they would face a simple Fake F.I.R, they would get a taste of the filth a.k.a Punjab Puls.
 
Kasur child pornography: Knowing the difference between resistance and consent – The Express Tribune Blog

Kasur child pornography: Knowing the difference between resistance and consent
By Farahnaz Zahidi Published: August 10, 2015


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One official has called it "the largest child abuse scandal in Pakistan's history." PHOTO: REUTERS

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I don’t curse. But this is a rare occasion where I would love to abuse the perpetrators of theKasur children’ssexual abuse atrocity in the vilest possible terms. However, here’s the thing about cursing – If I curse, I would end up using words that revile their mothers, sisters, and use the same pile of filth in words that they actually went and committed by use of force, intoxication and blackmailing.

So I would only be furthering the same thought process, where sex is connected with a position of power. People who curse using sexual terminology are played into feeling a sense of control, and it allows one to vent unrestrictedly. In a twisted and mutated way, so does rape or molesting a child. So no, cursing will not help. We have to come up with something better. Understanding how child sexual abuse is happening in a society where the Youtube blocks have clearly not mitigated paedophilia, leave alone pornography, some things needs to be understood.

This particular incident is so painful and sensitive that we have re-evaluated each word we are using. Scandal, for example, is a wrong word to use here, because it can be used for rumour or gossip. This incident is no rumour it happens to be a real wound that will remain etched in the Pakistani nation’s collective memory. One must also not compare the criminals with animals, because such brutality is rare among animals.

All I can do is pray earnestly that may they be punished without an iota of compassion shown to them, may they be made a bad example of, and may they burn in the lowest depths of hell.

Yet, just condemning them to hell is not enough. Some 500 abused children, 15 accused (the youngest of them is allegedly just 14-years-old), seven FIRs, and a judicial probe order later, have we learnt anything about the monstrosity that child sexual abuse is? This had been going on for years! Black mailing, cover ups, a silent town. The details will keep emerging as the story unfolds, and we may never know what the exact truth is.

These children were in big numbers, and numbers jolt us awake, albeit temporarily. But what about what happens around us?

Have we seen the number of street children in Karachi alone, and do we realise that each one of them is sexually molested within days of being initiated onto the open roads?

Which one of us has not come across stories of children being molested sexually?

The accused, for whom we all are praying for eternal damnation, are from among us. Sexual abuse at a tender age rewires the brain in mysterious ways. Every child who has undergone this trauma suffers from neurobiological, as well as long-term psychological effects. Each case will be different, as will how the child, even when a grown adult, processes it.

But the scar will remain. For some, the long-term impacts may be milder but debilitating– like deep-rooted psychiatric disorders, depression, anxiety, failed relationships, inherently low self-esteem, use of sex as a means of feeling better about themselves, and irresponsible decisions when it comes to sexual activity. For others, it might be an aversion to sex and prudish behaviour for a long time. In a worst case scenario, he/she who was once the victim, is now the perpetrator.

Pakistan, fortunately, still has a social system where very few will agree with post-modernist and other theories, where childhood is not considered the age of innocence. An example is what was said in the California Childhood Sensuality Circle, by its main figure Valida Davila, in 1981:

“We believe children should begin sex at birth”.

A legal minor, or a child, is a child, not yet in a position where he or she can make an informed decision about entering into such activity. While the law of Pakistan agrees with this, and whether the child resisted or not, considers it statutory rape when a minor is sexually molested, not everyone in society agrees.

I came across a recent case, and this is factual, where a 12-year-old girl was raped by a man in his 40s. The two had been interacting and chatting as they lived in the same neighbourhood. Even after the rape was proven and the man confessed, people of the neighbourhood and the girl’s own relatives were heard saying

“It was not really rape as she is a very tez (conniving) girl and was having an affair with him; she never resisted”.

The child was a curious 12-year-old with raging hormones, not a consenting adult.

The difference must be understood in the backdrop of the Kasur incident, because now that the entire community knows which children were sexually abused and filmed, those films will be run and rerun to see where there were signs of resistance, and where the child seemed to consent. Sadly, but surely, the incident will haunt those 500 young lives and their families in a judgmental society.

Child sexual abuse perpetrators, as psychologists confirm, often befriend the child and develop a comfort level where they do not have to use physical force. Yet, because it is a child in question, it is an unfair equation and abuse of the highest order.

But what is perhaps most worrisome, that there is a market out there, and an avid watcher of these films, who may not be an active paedophile himself, but enjoys the sickening, cheap thrills of watching a helpless child being forced into the act.

This is an unsafe, bad, bad world. In your community, watch out for any suspicious activity, and report it, whether it is your child or someone else’s. Protect your child at all costs, especially when at a formative, unripe age where the child cannot distinguish between right and wrong. Do not trust anyone with your child. And if you happen to know someone who was a victim, stop judging that person. Most importantly, seek help, both psychological and legal.

May the Kasur incident be the last of its kind. And may we have learnt some lessons to protect our children.
 
There are many ways that the system can be fixed.

Throwing shoes at police officers isn't one of them.

Hence, level of intellectuality.
the police officer does'nt deserve any respect at all these leeches the whole police force is sucking on our finances fine we don't pay much taxes but the foreign loans the burden of which falls upon common man who suffer losses on their savings in rupees when currency gets devalued ,and those loans are used to keep the norra gang(punjab police) and politicians bellies full ,yes army deserves respect but i would slam anyone trying to even compare the respect a army footsoldier has with d.i.g police .no sympathy no respect for police at all bigger the rank bigger the theif and bigger the responsible for police behaviour
 
In my humble opinion the current vitriolic statements by the politicians and the celebrities are just for the gaining the limelight on the media. Poor & the defenceless are children of a lesser God. Discussions on the TV will stop as soon as some other news worthy item along and the whole affair will be forgotten.

Indignation and fury aside, child abuse is a very serious matter. One needs to be realistic and not be coy about it. Fact remains that homosexuality, child abuse and sodomy has always existed in all the societies all over the world. In my view marriages of about 10 -12 year old girls, not uncommon in the villages is also child abuse but even today we hear of very young girls given in ‘Vanni’. In any society that is deeply segregated as Pakistan in general & KPK in particular; homosexuality will exist whether one chooses to hide it under the carpet or not. Sodomization of young boys; even though strictly forbidden in Islam; has always been an open secret with politicians and especially the police take a lenient view.

I am not surprised with Rana Sana ullah’s cool attitude about the affair because he knows that sodomization of defenceless children has been going for years. However, making videos of the affair and using the same for blackmailing the downtrodden is something new. The fact that this has been going for about 9 year with active police involvement and probably with the blessing of the local MPA /MNA indicates the low depth that our society has plunged to.

What happened to village mullahs and religious leaders of the area? You see how all the Islamists taking sides on sectarian issues or when you criticise the madrassah education. Are there no madrassahs in Kasur? Why was there not a single voice from the graduates of the religious seminaries who are aware of Islamic injunction against sodomy?

It just shows degradation& hypocrisy of the people in the in the overwhelmingly Islamic country of the ‘Pure’. I like the following article as a poignant reflection on the 68 day of Independence in the overwhelmingly Islamic country of the ‘Pure’.

Reflections on freedom day
I.A. REHMAN — PUBLISHED about 14 hours ago

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INDEPENDENCE Day is traditionally described as a time of celebration and reflection. One wonders what people will reflect upon tomorrow after the ritualistic festivities are over.

Quite a few might try to figure out what to do about a predatory executive that renders hundreds of people homeless by bulldozing a two-decade-old katchi abadi in the capital. Many thousands more might wonder whether their displacement and loss of property as a result of this year’s floods could have been averted by a more responsible authority, especially because floods have become almost an annual ordeal since 2010.

The hottest issue in debate tomorrow should be the Kasur mega outrage involving the sexual abuse of possibly hundreds of children that has exposed some of the main causes of the malfunctioning of the state.

The Kasur outrage has exposed some of the main causes of the malfunctioning of the state.
The first flaw in governance exposed after the horrible affair became public was the Punjab government’s bid to take refuge in denial mode. The way the provincial law minister pooh-poohed an utterly unforgivable atrocity only betrayed a stunning preference for prevarication. It might have been possible to dismiss the matter as a minister’s privilege to shoot himself in the foot but for the fact that the government has a habit of denying the existence of any and every social ill it fails to address. Whether the issue is child labour, violence against women, discrimination against minorities or enforced disappearances, the first official response is nearly always a flat denial.

By now the authorities should have realised the cost the country has had to pay for persisting with the denial policy. Facts and figures have to be cooked up to hide a lapse or a failure and relief is sought by making false claims and baseless promises. Eventually truth has to be admitted but only after much valuable time has been lost. The Kasur story had to be conceded within hours.

The second issue highlighted by the affair is the government’s persistent failure to give due priority to children’s rights. No doubt the provincial governments have taken some steps towards improving child protection mechanisms and the feeling of elation caused by the recognition of education as a fundamental right after the addition of Article 25-A to the Constitution has not abated. But the fact that Pakistan has not been able to implement the recommendations made by the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child or promises made to the committee or during the Universal Periodic Review 2012 is no secret. But of this on some other occasion.

The third failure is the government’s tendency to treat child abuse as merely a matter of crime and punishment. While the law must come into play whenever a child’s dignity of person is ravaged, much else is needed to free the victim of the after-effects of the trauma and to prevent recurrence. Some years ago a monster was tried for dissolving in acid the bodies of 100 victims of his perversion. Much noise was made about making a law for better care of street children, for making the police responsible for keeping track of them. When the accused died in jail, before receiving the outlandish punishment prescribed by the trial court, the affair was simply forgotten.

Will the authorities make sure that the story is not repeated in the present case? Will the mechanism to deal with child abuse be strengthened? Will the services of psychiatrists be employed to help the Kasur victims escape any permanent damage to their psyche?

Another issue is the failure of the intelligence agencies to trace an evil racket that is said to have been going on for many years. The place of crime is a village near the border with India, where intelligence agencies are believed to be more active than elsewhere. How come they remained unaware of the shameful affair?

Those who, like the government leaders, became aware of the Kasur story only on Sunday (Aug 9) morning, following a big media splash, should be wondering as to why did people — victims’ families in particular — remain silent for years? Some of the families apparently chose to keep mum and even paid blackmail money. The conduct of these people needs to be probed. Why do ordinary villagers feel discouraged from seeking legal redress for the wrongs done to them? Have they lost confidence in the ability of the police to protect them? Is access to courts impossible for them or have they lost faith in the system of justice?

At first sight it might seem that a long history of obedience to tyrants has drained the minds of helpless villagers of all ideas of rights and resistance to injustice. Even if the number of such people is small the government’s duty to reassure them of the protection available is obvious.

But apparently all the victims of abuse did not remain quiet. Efforts to bring the affair to the notice of the government were in fact made. This paper reported the organised abuse of children in the Kasur village quite some time ago. On Aug 5, that is four days before the Punjab government was awakened by media headlines, this paper and several other dailies reported a clash between the protesters and the police in which two DSPs were among the injured. The report did mention that systematic child abuse had been going on since 2009, that police had found video clips of assaults on children, that some parents had yielded to blackmail, and that a few suspects had already been arrested. But that was not enough to attract the attention of the government in Lahore or in Islamabad.

The final issue is: How big must an attack on the children’s innocence be to make the high and mighty stir out of their cocoons?

Published in Dawn, August 13th, 2015

Reflections on freedom day - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
 
Shows the intellectual level of the Pakistani Public.

It's sad how some parties are trying to spin this for scoring political points.

another pedo found.

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Shows the intellectual level of the Pakistani Public.

It's sad how some parties are trying to spin this for scoring political points.

nothing to do with intelelctual level. its is normal human reaction specially when the target entity is a party to the crime
 
rape victems in KPK getting Justice??
So because countless other murderers and thieves and kidnappers, and smugglers get away with their crimes, the one that get apprehended must be freed too? What a logic. Looks like you are pretty impressed with Hamza Shahbaz. Were you there in the audience?

 

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