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But majority of kashmiri want 'Azadi', isn't it? They don't want to part of Pakistan, so how can you force them to join Pakistan?

First, you have to return this occupied land to its rightful motherland and then let it's people decide whether to get independence or not. So, as long as Kashmirs want "Azadi", why India is still occupying their lands?
 
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ok..i got it ,,,few kashmiris are not happy wid india,,they can migrate to *** or africa or in hell..
kashmir is india's land...will remain as india's land..for time pass they can throw stones..for practice army can fire on them,,,we yevil hindus apply simple logic..
now my pakistani bros please come our f ur honeymoon dreams and madarsa education..u cant vacate even or negotiate on siachin or sir creek ..and u r talking abt kashmir..rightnow you are in league with bangaldesh thats we r talking to u..after few years u r in league with nepal....we will not even listen you..forget abt discussion
 
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Live LET MILLITANT KILLED.
 
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Some more Kashmiri Voices from so called Azad Kashmir

Dr Shabir Choudhry's blog: Stop Shia Genocide in Pakistan and Gilgit, Senge Sering

On April 14, 2012, hundreds of Shias from all over the United States gathered in front of the Embassy of Pakistan to protest Shia and minority killings in the country. Members and supporters of Gilgit Baltistan National Congress also joined the protesters.

Presence of Malika Baltistani, the chairperson of Gilgit-Baltistan National Alliance, was a shot in the arm for the members of GBNC. She delivered an inspiring speech about the rights of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan and condemned Pakistani government for patronizing the terrorists. She lamented that even though Gilgit-Baltistan provides water, minerals and a safe route for Pakistan to China; yet, the native Shias are treated like captives. She said that Pakistan is pursuing the age-old Umayyad and Abbasid policy of Shia persecution. She said, "We are rebels and not traitors and Pakistani policies of alienation are responsible for this."

On the occasion, the president of Gilgit Baltistan National Congress, Imtiaz Hussain, issued a press release:

The United Nations universal declaration on human rights guarantees freedom of religious practice and expression as a birth right. However, the natives of Pakistan controlled Gilgit-Baltistan have failed to attain their basic rights in the last six decades. Gilgit-Baltistan is an UN-declared disputed area and remains outside the constitutional jurisdiction of Pakistan. Several resolutions passed by both UN Security Council and UN Commission on India and Pakistan (UNCIP) have asked Pakistan to guarantee genuine autonomy to the region which then ensures freedom of political, judicial and socio-economic rights. However, Islamabad's failures have caused an irreparable damage to the social fabric. Today, the urban parts of Gilgit-Baltistan present the picture of a war zone where natives live with fear and deprivation.

Gilgit-Baltistan is a Shia majority area with considerable populations of Ismailia, Nurbakhsia and Sunni Muslims. Akin to Parachinar, where native Shias have been converted into a minority in their homeland, people of Gilgit-Baltistan also face ethnic cleansing, as attacks on Shias have become a routine matter. In many cases, law enforcement personnel are found involved in attacks on the Shias. The Shia massacre of 1988, for instance, was sponsored by the regime of General Ziaul Haque. During the episode, which lasted for 16 days, military officials provided direct support to the Jihadi terrorists belonging to Waziristan, Mohmand, Kohistan, Bajor and Swat districts. The Mujahideen attacked fourteen villages and forced tens of thousands of Shias to flee. These IDPs have failed to return to their homes due to lack of governmental patronage.

Shia killings in Gilgit-Baltistan have a history that dates back to 1947, when Pakistani political agent, Sardar Alam Khan, engineered a series of sectarian conflicts to lengthen his autocratic rule. In 1972, the regime once again resorted to sectarianism to justify abrogation of State Subject Rule (SSR) which then culminated into arrival of thousands of illegal settlers in Gilgit-Baltistan. The move which was a violation of the UNO resolutions helped change local religious and ethnic demography and resulted into Shias becoming a minority in the capital city, Gilgit. Hundreds of Shias of Gilgit-Baltistan have lost their lives since then and the assailants remain at large under state protection.

In recent weeks, first on February 28 and then on April 3, terrorists attacked buses loaded with passengers of Gilgit-Baltistan and slaughtered more than 100 Shias. The unfortunate incidents occurred in broad daylight on the Karakoram Highway (KKH) which is dotted with police and military check posts. Eyewitnesses claim that police provided weapons to the assailants, who numbered in thousands. Following the Shia massacre, an indefinite curfew was imposed in Gilgit-Baltistan causing food and medicine shortages. As of now, the region is cut off from the rest of the world as traffic on KKH, the sole road linking Gilgit-Baltistan with Pakistan, remains unsafe and disrupted, and air travel is cost prohibitive for the vast majority.

Given that Gilgit-Baltistan is an UN-declared disputed area and that Pakistan lacks the constitutional capacity to ensure fundamental rights and protection to the natives of the region; we urge the UNO to make necessary arrangements to ensure safety of life, honor and property in Gilgit-Baltistan. At the same time, we urge the regime in Islamabad to implement the following on immediate basis

1. Respect UNO resolutions and reinstate State Subject Rule (SSR) to protect local ethnic, linguistic, religious and cultural demography

2. Ensure protection to local languages and religions

3. Resume trade and travel over Astore-Srinagar, Chorbat-Nubra, Marol-Khaltse, Drass-Gultari and Olding-Kargil roads to ensure travel safety on alternate routes

4. Withdraw paramilitary from urban areas of Gilgit-Baltistan and strengthen local police

5. Remove all militant hide outs and launch pads from Gilgit-Baltistan

6. Arrest and prosecute the militants and military personnel who are involved in Shia killings

7. Return control over natural resources and trade routes to Gilgit-Baltistan Legislative Assembly

8. Abolish Gilgit-Baltistan Council and Ministry of Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan Affairs (KGBA) to ensure genuine autonomy as recommended by the UNO

We once again urge the UNO to persuade Pakistan to comply with these just demands

Senge Sering
Institute for Gilgit Baltistan Studies
Washington DC, DC
202 689 0647
 
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Guys! BLACKEAGLE is Jordanian ,

its ok if he feels the Kashmir should be part of Pakistan.
I didn't know they were illiterate idiots! Sheeesh! Now I know!
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^^^^ plan is simple dude. Just killed to muslim shia and rehabilitate punjabi over there, but the whole world is not fool :lol:
 
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Some more voices from the disputed region

Dr Shabir Choudhry's blog: Manzoor Parwana to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki - moon



Manzoor Parwana to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki - moon
United Nations
New York, NY 10017 USA
Tel.: No.: +212 963-5012 fax: +212 963-7055
Email: ecu@un.org

Respected Sir,

Subject: UNO should intervene to stop genocide and rights violation in Gilgit Baltistan

I intend to draw your attention to a vital human rights issue which affects the two million people of Gilgit Baltistan. The region, declared disputed between India and Pakistan in 1948, is sandwiched strategically between India, Pakistan, China, Tajikistan and Afghanistan. UNO allowed Pakistan to assume temporary control over Gilgit Baltistan and stationed officials representing the UN Military Observer Group for India and Pakistan in both Gilgit and Skardu cities.

Till date, the natives of Gilgit Baltistan remain deprived of basic rights, the national identity and the right to self-governance as prescribed by the UN resolutions. On the other hand, gross level of human rights violations have continued to occur and in the aftermath of passenger’s massacre in Kohistan and Chilas, the right to free and safe travel has also been snatched away from the powerless residents. These incidents draw our attention towards involvement of militants and secret service personnel.

On February 28, 2012, militants wearing army uniform ambushed a bus in Kohistan and killed 18 Shia male passengers. Government has failed to arrest the assailants so far. The failure encouraged the terrorists who ambushed 34 buses near Chilas on April 3 2012 and killed dozens of Shia male passengers. The assailants numbering more than three thousand attacked the innocent passengers with stones, knives and automatic weapons. Eyewitness reports claim more than 50 deaths, scores injured and more than 100 abducted. The assailants torched 6 buses and pushed two in the Indus River.

The horrible incident occurred in front of police force and according to eyewitnesses; the police did not provide security to the passengers. Some local people of Chilas were later able to save the lives of 200 passengers.

Instead of arresting the miscreants of Gilgit Kohistan and Chilas, government resorted to imposing curfew in Gilgit city which has entered into 14th day. Under military control, life has crippled in the city and there is acute shortage of food and medicines. During the first ten days of curfew, there was a break of only 4 hours in which families arranged for food and water. The telecom system is completely blocked by the military and not news flows outside Gilgit. As majority of the workforce depend on daily wage labor for earnings, the curfew has forced them to remain shut in homes and lose the wages. Converting Gilgit Baltistan into a jail and denying basic food and medicine provisions is a gross violation of human rights. Military has arrested more than 100 youth from Gilgit.

Honorable Sir,

The disputed status of Gilgit Baltistan deprives us of political and judicial rights within Pakistani constitutional framework. The Chief Justice of Pakistan Supreme Court has refused to take the case of recent killings owing to the disputed nature of Gilgit Baltistan. Therefore we request the UNO to make necessary arrangements to ensure safety for the natives of the region. We demand that UNO should intervene to stop genocide at the hands of government backed terrorists.

We would like to draw your attention to the following:

1- In the light of UN resolution of January 5, 1949, the UN Security Council must ensure genuine political, judicial, economic and cultural autonomy in Gilgit Baltistan

2- Given that Pakistan has failed to ensure security in Gilgit Baltistan, UNO must station its peace keeping troops in the disputed region

3- Pakistan must be asked to open traditional trade routes leading towards India and Tajikistan which can help sustain local economy and provide alternate safe routes to travel as currently, travel on the Karakoram Highway is life threatening.

4- Violating UN resolutions, Pakistan abolished State Subject Rule in Gilgit Baltistan in 1974 and subsequently settled tens of thousands of her nationals to change local demography. Today the people of Gilgit Baltistan are threatened with ethnic cleansing. UNO must ask Pakistan to respect UN resolutions and remove her citizens who have damaged the social fabric by spreading extremism.

5- UNO must ask Pakistan to remove fake sedition cases and release all political prisoners. A UN commission must be sent to Gilgit Baltistan to assess gross human rights violations, killings, detentions and torture of political workers.

6- Recently more than 120 soldiers of Pakistan controlled Gilgit Baltistan and Kashmir died near the Siachen glacier after glacial melt and overflow damaged a village. UNO must ask India and Pakistan to remove forces from Siachen sector and convert the area into a peace park.

7- Pak must end curfew in Gilgit and ensure free and safe travel to all inhabitants on all routes.

In good faith,


Manzoor Parwana
Chairperson
Gilgit-Baltistan United Movement
Skardu, Baltistan
 
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You Indians Lie Not All The Contents Above. Kashmiris Hate India to the Core.

mate the only person who hates us here is you. grow up . posting you tube vids (most of them from Indian sources and news channels is not going to accomplish any thing.)
there is a reason why the Kashmir section is out of bounds unless you are a senior member . the admin hope you might get some maturity by the time you make 2000 posts .

Mods please move to kashmir section . or it will turn into a flame fest .
 
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Why do you live in denial?

What did i deny my friend, i merely asked for the source for what you said:


As you know, most if not all 1.6 billion Muslims as well as just and fair people support Kashmir liberation.

If i interpret the above statement right either all 1.6 billion Muslims or atleast greater than 50% of them i.e 801 million Muslims should be supporting "Kashmir liberation.".

You support that claim, by mentioning the below statement:

Yes all Arab and Muslims I have met so far whether in internet or real life think that Kashmir was unjustfully occupied by India.

Now, the above is an anecdote to begin with, let us say your anecdote is true.

So how many Muslims and Arabs have you met on the net or real life?

100? 1000? 100000? 1 million?

It certainly cannot be most or all of 1.6 billion. Its logically not possible for you to meet so many people in real or internet life and ask their opinion.

So, your statement/conclusion that : "most if not all 1.6 billion Muslims as well as just and fair people support Kashmir liberation." seems to have poor backing based on claims of people you"ve met on the net or real world seems not convincing logically.

Feel free to disagree.
 
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