Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[Bang Galore]

People who compare Russia in Afghanistan with Kashmir forget one very important fact; Russia did not see Afghanistan as a part of its country(then USSR). There was a cost/benefit analysis at work there, not so in Kashmir. India is not about to do an analysis on those lines. We see this as part of our country and no cost is too high to defend it. If we did not budge in the north east all those years ago, we certainly are not going to do so in Kashmir no matter what anyone thinks.

The only resolution of Kashmir will be a negotiated one that's acceptable to India, anyone dreaming otherwise has been guilty of smoking things other than a peace pipe.

 

[indian_warrior]

Same applies to Bhagat singh ?

Your comparison Bhagat singh with these people shows your education system. I am happy now, IA job is short cut. Self destruction is eminent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/16/AR2010011602660.html

 

[Optimus]

People who compare Russia in Afghanistan with Kashmir forget one very important fact; Russia did not see Afghanistan as a part of its country(then USSR). There was a cost/benefit analysis at work there, not so in Kashmir. India is not about to do an analysis on those lines. We see this as part of our country and no cost is too high to defend it. If we did not budge in the north east all those years ago, we certainly are not going to do so in Kashmir no matter what anyone thinks.

The only resolution of Kashmir will be a negotiated one that's acceptable to India, anyone dreaming otherwise has been guilty of smoking things other than a peace pipe.

Right on the spot

 

[jbond197]

For the ignorant, half the cost of afghan jihad was borne by Saudis.
Secondly, US encouraged Jihad at the time.. do watch Charlie wilson's War and see US Senator chanting Allah hu Akbar.
In any case, we being mere mortals and subject to His will, we are all used for different purposes. It is irrelevant what faith US has in that sense.
USSR was doomed. US & its people are also people of the book ( ahle kitab) so God used his people for a purpose!

This is ridiculous.. You think that US supported Afghan war just because both they and Afghans were people of book.. I am afraid you are wrong. The support was in US's self interest in form of restricting the spread of communism and counter the strength of U.S.S.R in CAR region.

Yes Saudis funded them but then Saudis are again US puppets.. I have not seen them acting against any interests of US. But to the case in point why would any of these nations fund the mujahideens anymore when no threat of Soviet or Communism exists?

 

[karan.1970]

Bad News , May the Mujahideen succeed in their Freedom struggle .

Indian occupation would end one day & Indian Dictatorship wont last very long on Kashmir .

Another Gajwa-e-Hind dream

 

[TheBraveHeart]

Operation Khoj in Kashmir: biggest offensive against terrorists?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Operation-Khoj-in-Kashmir-biggest-offensive-against-terrorists/H1-Article1-526906.aspx
A senior army commander on Saturday claimed that the operation against terrorists in Rajouri in Jammu and Kashmir for the past week was one of the biggest in recent years.

The operation was codenamed 'Operation Khoj' or operation search. It started on March 27 and went on till April 2.

General Officer Commanding (GOC) of counter insurgency Uniform Force Major General M.M.S. Rai told reporters in Reasi on Saturday that the offensive against terrorists left 16 terrorists of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) dead in the past one week and six soldiers also lost their lives in gun battles with the terrorists.

"This was one of the biggest operations in Rajouri in recent years," he said. He claimed that the "army acted swiftly and in time and neutralized the terrorists before they could move up in hills and cause any major damage."

"During these operations we have eliminated all the 16 militants in four different encounters and this was possible due to the cooperation of Jammu and Kashmir police and other paramilitary forces, particularly Central Reserve Police Force."

The army also recovered satellite phones, AK-47 rifles from the militants.

"All the terrorists belonged to the LeT group," he said.

Gen. Rai said that the army has stepped up its vigil and all the major routes were being "intensely patrolled".

Four terrorists and an army soldier were killed in a gun battle in Jammu and Kashmir's Reasi district on Friday.

The first contact with the militants was made in Dharmsal area of Kalakote in Rajouri March 27 and two terrorists were killed.

The second contact took place in Thrayth on Tuesday, triggering an 18-hour gun battle that lasted into Wednesday and left four guerrillas and three soldiers dead.

Six terrorists were killed in Rajouri district on Thursday.
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While we sleep and rest at home these brave men of Indian army are vigilant for our security .....A final salute to the departed souls and also to the others involved in the operation...

 

[gowthamraj]

who is head of let, put aim to him

 

[PAKFA]

Best of luck to Indian army , I hope they will be successful without causality.

 

[Justin Joseph]

Killing the terrorist will not achieve much as their trainers, financier and masters are free and safe.

The need is to launc a major covert operation to eliminate them and build a strong permanent network there who will monitor those threats at the planning level and eliminating them before reaching our shores.

 

[brahmastra]

God-Speed

 

[TheBraveHeart]

Army foils infiltration bid along LoC, two militants killed
PTI, Apr 4, 2010, 12.45pm IST


SRINAGAR: Army today foiled an infiltration bid and killed two militants along the Line of Control in Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir.

Troops guarding the border noticed some movement in Keran sector near the LoC, 140 km from here, a defence spokesman said.

The infiltrators opened fire at the security personnel and in the ensuing gunbattle two ultras were killed, he said, adding that search operation is on in the area.
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wonder whether the home ministry and intelligence agencies have any role to play in it coz the speed of flushing out these terrorists has certainly increased with fewer casualties on our side!!!

 

[TheBraveHeart]

Slain Pakistani militants were Punjabi speaking
Infiltrators trapped due to lack of guides

By Sanjeev Pargal

JAMMU, Apr 3: Absence of guides and complete lack of local support is reported to have contributed a lot in eliminating 16 dreaded Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) militants, 15 of whom were Pakistanis, in Rajouri district within a week. The militants were "very well motivated, trained and hardcore’’ which was evident that they fought with security forces and police for several hours before being killed. Five Army jawans attained martyrdom while killing the ultras and a SHO was among the injured.

At least dozen slain militants were commanders, who had to take over command of the dwindling cadre of the LeT outfit in different areas. An equal number of 12 satellite telephones were recovered from the ultras. A satellite phone is given by Pakistan Army and ISI only to the militants of commander rank.

Official sources quoting the communication intercepted between militants and Pakistan Army officials across the Line of Control (LoC) told the Excelsior that the ultras were frequently asking their mentors in Pakistan about the route they had to take to reach Mahore and Kulgam.

The intercepts revealed that senior Pakistan Army officials with the help of some militants of this side were giving direction to militants on satellite telephones and other mode of communication with them to take the help of Global Positioning System (GPS) and Army pattern maps with them. A number of times, the militants managed to take right track after getting directions from across.

Sources said excepting one, the militants didn’t receive support of any guide or local to brief them about the route or give them shelter which led to elimination of 16 of them in four operations within a week. Mohammad Aslam alias Qasim, a resident of Thanol, Mahore was the only local militant, who had received the foreigners at Kalakote forests and was taking the group of five Pakistanis to Mahore but he too was eliminated by Army and police.

"The militants were virtually stranded in Kandi, Kalakote and Dharamshal forests as they were not finding any help from the local people, which indicated that the people were disenchanted with the ultras’’, SSP Rajouri Shafkat Wattali, who led police parties in week long operation, said.

He added that inputs were still pouring in about the presence of three to four more militants between Kalakote and Dharamshal forests. "We have not given up searches’’, he said, adding the militants, however, have not been spotted and it was being ascertained as to whether they were part of fresh infiltrated group or already operating in the area.

Sources said the militants appeared to have intruded from multiple points on March 23 and 24 between Pallanwalla-Sunderbani-Nowshera LoC. At least 10 militants, who were killed near Kandi in Rajouri district appeared to be heading towards Budhal to take Pir Panjal route to reach Kulgam while other militants eliminated at Kalakote and Dharamshal forests were on way to Mahore in Reasi district.

All 15 Pakistani militants killed so far were Punjabi speaking indicating that they hailed from Punjab province of Pakistan. "All militants were battle hardened and were carrying very sophisticated communication system with them. The way they kept engaged security forces and police for hours together before being killed indicated that they had been trained in LeT camps for two to three years’’, sources said.

While earlier, Pakistan Army and ISI had been trying to push small group of militants from LoC and IB ranging between three to five, this was after a long gap that they pushed large group of militants on a single day. Infiltration by the big group was aimed at strengthening the depleting strength of the LeT outfit in different areas of the State especially in the areas where the Lashkar ultras had been rendered headless after liquidation of their commanders by Army and police during last few months.

The Pakistan Army was intending to put command of local militants to Pakistanis to co-ordinate their activities, recruit more local youths and revive their activities, sources said, adding the killing of 15 Pakistanis ultras in a week besides a local has foiled all plans hatched across the LoC and delivered a big blow to the militant outfit.

The militants were carrying ammunition, much above than normal , which pointed out that a large part of it had to be distributed among the existing cadre in different parts of the State.

According to sources , the infiltration of eight militants from Jogma area of Pallanwalla sector was confirmed as the ultras had been spotted by Army, the intrusion by other Pakistanis had gone unnoticed though it too was reported to have taken place along LoC in Pallanwalla-Sunderbani-Nowshera route.

"Had the militants managed to reach their destination, they would have created a mayhem as all 15 Pakistanis were well trained and well equipped with sophisticated weaponry’’, they said

 

[deckingraj]

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Well we have lost 6 brave mens....this is painful and disgusting to know....Yes we manage to kill 16 pigs but cost of raising such pigs vs transforming boys into men is way higher and their loss is more painful then joy of getting rids of these terrorists....This proxy war needs to be bring to a halt sooner than later....

I would prefer a limited conflict over this proxy war any point in time...

 

[manish123]

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Well we have lost 6 brave mens....this is painful and disgusting to know....Yes we manage to kill 16 pigs but cost of raising such pigs vs transforming boys into men is way higher and their loss is more painful then joy of getting rids of these terrorists....This proxy war needs to be bring to a halt sooner than later....

I would prefer a limited conflict over this proxy war any point in time...

Yes! pakistan can keep up on sending thousands of these guys.I find no pleasure and would like your option.

 

[TheBraveHeart]

@deckinraj & @manish123

I would like to differ with ur views for certain reasons
1. A limited conflict can always escalate into major one, cause such conflicts once begun cann't be predicted....
2. It would bring the International community's intervention just like in Kargil and many compromises would have to be made..Also India wants bilateral settlements without foreign pressure..
3. chances of pakistan bragging about nuclear weapons and following implications on the whole of south asia..
4. the economy gets hit and foreign investors might keep off for years..
5. Heavy mobilization and the cost of conflict even if limited
6. chances of the general masses being hit

But, ur right about the casualty figures ...In my honest opinion the security forces should start secret attacks similar to Israeli agents..although it is not foolproof but it may lead to a kind of internal chaos and possible destruction.....