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Well I think even visiting openly sepratist leaders sends out an important message.

Is it concievable that an all party delagation from a Pakistani NA would for example go meet Bugti?

Now what remains to be seen is what actions will the APD suggest and how they will be implmented. The contours of the end solution are known, its just the political will by GoI, GoP and the Kashmiri leadership to implement it.

How can we meet him when he is hiding in Afghanistan due to his crimes. He should be in Pakistan so we can meet him. Come on yaar you are comparing two different things with each other. I thought you were a sane guy though.
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Yea - the conditions in Pakistan-occ-Kashmir are deplorable to say the least.

Yes conditions in AJK are deplorable. Too bad they don't have to live under curfew even for a single day out of whole year. :D
 
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SRINAGAR , (SANA): Amid deteriorating situation in the Indian occupied Kashmir, another Kashmiri Sajjad Ahmad Pandit 25, who was injured in police firing on September 13 at Shiekh Pora Budgam succumbed to his injuries here Wednesday.

With Sajad’s death, toll since June 11 has reached 109. Reports reached here said that the whole held valley presented a jail picture as authorities in Srinagar virtually placed the valley under curfew.
 
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I always believe that one should not shoot the messenger however can you please explain why you choose to open yet another thread when there are plethora of similar threads already there????

Don't you think one can serve better by bringing all the information on one platform rather then opening 109 threads for 109 deaths????
 
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ISLAMABAD – Condemning the human rights violations in Indian occupied Kashmir, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani Tuesday said that Kashmir is Pakistan’s core issue and Monday’s resolutions of both houses of the parliament have sensitised international community on these violations.

Speaking in the National Assembly Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani said that Kashmir issue is of prime importance for Pakistan as its resolution is key to peace and stability in the region. He said Pakistan has condemned human rights violations in held Kashmir and has taken the issue on international forums including the United Nations.

Responding to the point raised by Chairman Parliamentary Kashmir Committee Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman, he said it is for the first time that Chairman of Kashmir Committee is going to United Nation on this issue.

The Prime Minister also expressed concerns on reporting regarding stoppage of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman at airport and asked Ministries of Interior and Foreign Affairs to take notice of this report and inform the house.

He said that Fazl-ur-Rehman is honourable member of the house. He requested media to show responsibility in reporting on sensitive issues and said, “We shall appreciate responsible reporting.”

Earlier, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman expressed concern over the media reports that he has been held at Doha airport and said in fact he has applied with US Embassy for visa to participate in the UN General Assembly session as member of Pakistan delegation and reply in this regard is still awaited.

Speaking on the point of order, Secretary Information Pakistan People’s Party Fozia Wahab however alleged that Punjab government was extending all out support and facilities to defunct Jamata-ud-Dawa.
“Jamaat-ud-Dawa has been declared as defunct by the United Nations that followed a ban by the Government of Pakistan. But this outfit is getting active in Punjab and the concerned administration is facilitating and supporting it,” Fozia added. She also sought a complete ban on its advertisements on media.
 
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Whoa! I don't think the Indian Govt. or the people saw that statement coming.
 
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a nation suffering from floods,terrorism in its backyard is more concerned with what is happening in neighbouring country, calling it a core issue is diverting focus from the real core issue of development
 
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ISLAMABAD – Condemning the human rights violations in Indian occupied Kashmir, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani Tuesday said that Kashmir is Pakistan’s core issue and Monday’s resolutions of both houses of the parliament have sensitised international community on these violations.

Speaking in the National Assembly Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani said that Kashmir issue is of prime importance for Pakistan as its resolution is key to peace and stability in the region. He said Pakistan has condemned human rights violations in held Kashmir and has taken the issue on international forums including the United Nations.

Don't we already know that, the Pakistani obsession with Kashmir.

Lets see what it has done to Pakistan-
-Permanent enmity with India,
- lost half of country due to that,
- permanent arms race with a worsening economy,
- still high on Kashmir with half the country under water.
- supported US on afghanistan in hope of using the assets against India in kashmir, results haven't been good so far.
- More focus on Kashmir than own people in frontier regions causing lesser control of government in own territory.
- Provinces calling for seccesion alleging not enough focus is on them, obviously as the PM said, its on Kashmir.
- Country a de-facto military state with the military hardset over Kashmir.

Phew, somebody new to kashmir would think either kashmir is made of gold or sitting on oil that people would want it so badly.
 
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a nation suffering from floods,terrorism in its backyard is more concerned with what is happening in neighbouring country, calling it a core issue is diverting focus from the real core issue of development
Because Pakistan also has a historical claim to Kashmir. So, we are minding our own business by looking into our own disputed territories.

I know right from the beginning that you don't agree with this viewpoint, but you should surely be aware of it; you're already know why Pakistanis care about Kashmir. Your comment is only wanting to start a flame war here.
 
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Don't we already know that, the Pakistani obsession with Kashmir.

Lets see what it has done to Pakistan-
-Permanent enmity with India,
- lost half of country due to that,
- permanent arms race with a worsening economy,
- still high on Kashmir with half the country under water.
- supported US on afghanistan in hope of using the assets against India in kashmir, results haven't been good so far.
- More focus on Kashmir than own people in frontier regions causing lesser control of government in own territory.
- Provinces calling for seccesion alleging not enough focus is on them, obviously as the PM said, its on Kashmir.

Phew, somebody new to kashmir would think either kashmir is made of gold or sitting on oil that people would want it so badly.
This works both ways. You could also say that if India just respected Pakistan's right, Pakistan wouldn't be in the state it is in right now.

Plus, Kashmir didn't contribute to all those things by itself. It's many other things as well.
 
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This works both ways. You could also say that if India just respected Pakistan's right, Pakistan wouldn't be in the state it is in right now.

Plus, Kashmir didn't contribute to all those things by itself. It's many other things as well.

What right are you talking about exactly? I don't know any legal right that Pakistan has on Kashmir.

Animosity over Kashmir is mostly what drives Pakistan to take irrational steps...just look around and answer if Kashmir is really the priority right now?
 
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This works both ways. You could also say that if India just respected Pakistan's right, Pakistan wouldn't be in the state it is in right now.

Plus, Kashmir didn't contribute to all those things by itself. It's many other things as well.
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Care to elaborate the bold part.
 
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In all fairness, Pakistan has never given up its claim of Kashmir. If a similar happenstance were to occur in Pak-Occ-Kashmir, India would be making the same noises.
 
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What right are you talking about exactly? I don't know any legal right that Pakistan has on Kashmir.

Animosity over Kashmir is mostly what drives Pakistan to take irrational steps...just look around and answer if Kashmir is really the priority right now?
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Care to elaborate the bold part.
Pakistan and India both have claims on Kashmir. In hindsight, 'claims' might have a been a better word then 'right'.
 
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Pakistan and India both have claims on Kashmir. In hindsight, 'claims' might have a been a better word then 'right'.

India has a legal right over Kashmir, recognized by both Pakistan and the UN, so essentially its Pakistan thats occupying Kashmir, India is well in its legal territory.
 
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