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[DESERT FIGHTER]

Un slamed india for using UN stamped helmets in IOK!And violating human rights killing,stealing,kidnapping etc.

Great.

 

[Coltsfan]

Un slamed india for using UN stamped helmets in IOK!And violating human rights killing,stealing,kidnapping etc.

Great.

These are the RAF, Rapid Action Force troops.

Check out the helmet of the troops in the back

Someone has done a horrible job of photoshop it seems

 

[Patriot]

These are the RAF, Rapid Action Force troops.

Check out the helmet of the troops in the back

Someone has done a horrible job of photoshop it seems

Yes you are correct this is RAF But picture is not photo shopped.RAF used UN helmets even though they were operating in Kashmir (Complete Violation of UN Rules)
UN Orders Indian Army to Stop Using UN Helmets
Since a visit to Kashmir by Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh June 7, the colonized country run with the iron fist of 700,000 paramilitary goons and a puppet government in Srinagar has been under a virtual lockdown, with day-long curfews and frequent shutdowns of power and water. Businesses have been unable to operate, schools have closed, and the hospitals have become burdened with thousands of young men suffering gunshot wounds with no access to medical supplies. This isn't the first time, of course. Kashmir has been the scene of periodic fighting between local residents, often accused of being Pakistani terrorists, and the Indian mercenary squads, since UN resolutions and the promise of independence made to them by India in 1949 were ignored. It has gone on this long because the rest of the world has ignored the plight of these people, succumbing to mainstream media propaganda about Pakistani terrorists crossing the Line of Control which divides Pakistani controlled Kashmir with the Indian side.

This time the population seems to be serious. During the past two months street protests over repeated killings of unarmed citizens, mostly young teenagers, has

erupted into what could be a full-blown revolution, with demands being made for complete freedom from both Indian and Pakistani rule.
Rapid Action Forces of the Indian paramilitary army, known as the CRPF, march in Srinagar, the capital of Kashmir this past weekend, many conspicuously wearing the helmets of the UN. Source of Photo Greater Kashmir GreaterKashmir Daily English Newspaper from Kashmir Srinagar, Kashmiri, Kashmir news Kashmir Discussion Forum,Srinagar,Latest News from kashmir, Lastupdate:- Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:30:00 GMT.

This past weekend, a special ops wing of the paramilitary forces known as the Rapid Action Force, numbering approximately 2,000 troops, were brought in by local authorities in an attempt to quell the uprising. Immediately, I started receiving questions from several people about the fact that these troops were seen wearing UN helmets. It raised serious questions about UN complicity in the killings and other violence that has been perpetrated against civilians.

On Monday I sent the following letter to a representative at the United Nations:



Sent: Mon 8/9/2010 2:16 PM
Nick Birnback
Chief, Public Affairs Section
Department of Peacekeeping Operations
United Nations

Mr. Birnback:

It's my understanding that you may oversee matters pertaining to international human rights issues, and I would like to know if you have been informed of the problems in Kashmir, the nature of the uprising there, the level of violence, the casualties, and the grave nature of humanitarian conditions after weeks of curfews and a complete shutdown of normal services to the community from health to water to electricity. I've been informed by sources that there does not seem to be an observable UN presence for UN-OCHA.

Paradoxically, there is an observable presence of UN helmets being worn by the CRPF's Rapid Action Forces currently being deployed in Kashmir. See photo below. Widespread belief is that the UN endorses India's behavior, and allows this image of UN participation to prevail as an internationally acceptable level of the use of force against unarmed civilians. Can you advise us on the position taken by the UN on all these matters?

Best wishes,
Paul Barrow
Director of Policy and Communications
United Progressives
44 Music Square East
#702
Nashville, TN 37203

Mr. Birnback's response below gives the unmistakable impression that the Peacekeeping office, which directly oversees operations such as the unit in Kashmir, is completely in the dark about the Indian army's use of these helmets.

Sent Mon 8/10/2010 2:50 PM
Mr. Barrow,
Thanks for your email. While I'm not on the human rights side per say, my folks are looking into this and I will have something for you by close of business (New York time) on Tuesday.
Regards,
Nick


Sent: Tue 8/10/2010 1:56 PM
Mr. Barrow,

In answer to your query, please find details below.

Following the use of UN-marked blue helmets by Indian Rapid Action Force (RAF) personnel in Srinagar, the United Nations Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) immediately brought the issue to the attention of the Indian Army authorities. We understand that directions have since been issued by the Indian authorities to prevent the continued use of UN helmets and shields by the Rapid Action Force.

UN blue helmets and other UN equipment are provided to personnel serving in United Nations operations for the sole purpose of use during service under the blue flag. All UN equipment provided for use in a UN operation ought to be returned to the Organization upon completion of service and under no circumstances, can it be used for other purposes, including by national armies in the conduct of their operations.

In accordance with Security Council resolution 307 (1971), UNMOGIP is deployed to the region to monitor the cease-fire along the Line of Control, investigate alleged violations, and report to the Secretary-General on violations and relevant developments in its area of operations.

Feel free to contact us for any further details.

Regards,

Michel Bonnardeaux
Public Affairs Officer
United Nations
DPKO/OUSG
DC1-1538
New York, NY 10017, USA

The current strength of military observers numbers 44, with 23 international civilian personnel and 48 local civilian staff. Those figures are from the UN website and dated June 30, 2010. Military personnel are from the countries of Chile, Croatia, Finland, Italy, Philippines, Republic of Korea, Sweden and Uruguay, and spend six months alternately on either side of the Line of Control. Currently, they are on the Pakistan side.
I have followed up Michel's email with a telephone call looking into this further in the hopes of understanding what recourse the UN might have if India ignores the demands of the UN. I received a voicemail response, so I will probably not know anything further about it today. I'm also hoping yet to hear from UN-OCHA, the department at the UN that handles Humanitarian Affairs.

Paul Barrow is Director of Policy and Communcations for United Progressives

 

[Coltsfan]

Alright, it does appear that some RAF forces used the UN helmet, which was inappropriate.

But I believe that was in August, hopefully they back in RAF helmets and focusing on getting the job done.

 

[JanjaWeed]

It might have been better if you read a lil bit of Indian history first .Tamil Nadu had a very significant sepratist movement in 50s and early 60s . The DMK was strongly anti Brahman ,anti north and anti Aryan .They viewed southern brahminsand north Indians as aryans and south Indians as dravidians . After Independence They increasingly used language instead of race as seccesionist planck. Infact current patriach of DMK (Karunanidhi ) was also associated with this movement .However After compulsory introduction of hindi as national language was stopped the sepratism began to wane ...some other factors like electoral success and 16th constitutional ammendment was also responsible .
The sepratism might have died down but that does not mean that there was no sepratism but I was amazed that in 7 pages none of Indian members even hinted about this . I can only draw two conclusions from this either indian members are woefully ignorant of thier history or they want to gloss over some aspects of that history .

my friend it's not me who needs to read history.. i think its you who need a bit of reality check.. i'm neither from 50s nor from 60s.. in my life time i have never come across any tamil seperatist movement. when was the last time you heard tamil's agitating for a seperate homeland?? when was the last time tamils got out on the street with violent protests?? deffinetly not on 80s not on 90s or in this decade. all the above political parties you mentioned or leaders, have been or are active part of indian national governments & are operating under constituation of india. there were lot many seperatist movements throughout the world in the distant past & it doesn't mean that they are still in existance. today there is not even a single significant tamil seperatist movement within india. so let's stop living in the fantasy by clinging onto the so called seperatist movement which has happened half a century ago & died it's natural death. people are happily part of india. i'm sorry that i have burst your bubble here..

 

[NWO]

So, what is the story behind this footage? I mean, surely something has developed, and the government is just delaying its release or something.

 

[sachair27]

u talk abt HINDU majority!
but the prime minister is sikh, J&K CM is muslim and defence minister of india is Christian... these are the people who makes the decisions my friend...

buddy that would be hard for people from a state religion country to understand......u r asking for toooooooo much

 

[sachair27]

Nice showcase you have got there. Just like your country wasted no time to install Abdul Kalam as president to save its secular image after the Muslim massacre. Your force is occupying Kashmir's land and we are sleeping?



its atleast our own army occupying our own area....u have to import the chinese army to do that for you in gilgit n baltistan...

 

[sachair27]

The Kashmiri shoes and sticks are doing a better job and thrashing Indian security forces, our support is always ready whenever the Kashmiris would ask for it.

it would be better if you shower a bit of that support to the people of pak occupied kashmir...for a change pakistanis are sharing love

 

[Peshwa]

''Ya'' well Pakistan IS a country; despite all odds, and despite a very rough beginning. That in itself is a testament. Our victory was your (hindustany) failure starting in 1947.
therefore I dont know what you're talking about


the best advice i can give to you and your people is that you should prepare yourselves on HOW to deal with an independent Kashmir; which is inevitable. If not in my lifetime, perhaps in that of my children. Inshallah.

Well looking at the current "haalaat".....more like a boon in disguise (for India of course)....

But then again....we all cant be ostriches now can we?

 

[sachair27]

Nice showcase you have got there. Just like your country wasted no time to install Abdul Kalam as president to save its secular image after the Muslim massacre. Your force is occupying Kashmir's land and we are sleeping?



You just cant help yourself my friend. Freedom movement in Gilgir Baltistan



PICK YOUR SELF UP TUCK YOUR TEETH IN AND READ IF U CAN..."MY FRIEND"...btw for your convenience i have highlighted a few lines...that will give you the idea about your good administration in *** or AK as you like to call it..

China's Discreet Hold on Pakistan's Northern Borderlands
By SELIG S. HARRISON
Published: August 26, 2010

While the world focuses on the flood-ravaged Indus River valley, a quiet geopolitical crisis is unfolding in the Himalayan borderlands of northern Pakistan, where Islamabad is handing over de facto control of the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in the northwest corner of disputed Kashmir to China.

The entire western portion of Kashmir stretching from Gilgit in the north to Azad (Free) Kashmir in the south is closed to the world, in contrast to the media access that India permits in the eastern part, where it is combating a Pakistan-backed insurgency. But reports from a variety of foreign intelligence sources, Pakistani journalists and Pakistani human rights workers reveal two important new developments in Gilgit-Baltistan: a simmering rebellion against Pakistani rule and the influx of an estimated 7,000 to 11,000 soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army.

China wants a grip on the region to assure unfettered road and rail access to the Gulf through Pakistan. It takes 16 to 25 days for Chinese oil tankers to reach the Gulf. When high-speed rail and road links through Gilgit and Baltistan are completed, China will be able to transport cargo from Eastern China to the new Chinese-built Pakistani naval bases at Gwadar, Pasni and Ormara, just east of the Gulf, within 48 hours.

Many of the P.L.A. soldiers entering Gilgit-Baltistan are expected to work on the railroad. Some are extending the Karakoram Highway, built to link China’s Sinkiang Province with Pakistan. Others are working on dams, expressways and other projects.

Mystery surrounds the construction of 22 tunnels in secret locations where Pakistanis are barred. Tunnels would be necessary for a projected gas pipeline from Iran to China that would cross the Himalayas through Gilgit. But they could also be used for missile storage sites.

Until recently, the P.L.A. construction crews lived in temporary encampments and went home after completing their assignments. Now they are building big residential enclaves clearly designed for a long-term presence.

What is happening in the region matters to Washington for two reasons. Coupled with its support for the Taliban, Islamabad’s collusion in facilitating China’s access to the Gulf makes clear that Pakistan is not a U.S. “ally.” Equally important, the nascent revolt in the Gilgit-Baltistan region is a reminder that Kashmiri demands for autonomy on both sides of the cease-fire line would have to be addressed in a settlement.

Media attention has exposed the repression of the insurgency in the Indian-ruled Kashmir Valley. But if reporters could get into the Gilgit-Baltistan region and Azad Kashmir, they would find widespread, brutally-suppressed local movements for democratic rights and regional autonomy.

When the British partitioned South Asia in 1947, the maharajah who ruled Kashmir, including Gilgit and Baltistan, acceded to India. This set off intermittent conflict that ended with Indian control of the Kashmir Valley, the establishment of Pakistan-sponsored Free Kashmir in western Kashmir, and Pakistan’s occupation of Gilgit and Baltistan, where Sunni jihadi groups allied with the Pakistan Army have systematically terrorized the local Shiite Muslims.

Gilgit and Baltistan are in effect under military rule. Democratic activists there want a legislature and other institutions without restrictions like the ones imposed on Free Kashmir, where the elected legislature controls only 4 out of 56 subjects covered in the state constitution. The rest are under the jurisdiction of a “Kashmir Council” appointed by the president of Pakistan.

India gives more power to the state government in Srinagar; elections there are widely regarded as fair, and open discussion of demands for autonomy is permitted. But the Pakistan-abetted insurgency in the Kashmir Valley has added to tensions between Indian occupation forces and an assertive population seeking greater of local autonomy.

The United States is uniquely situated to play a moderating role in Kashmir, given its growing economic and military ties with India and Pakistan’s aid dependence on Washington. Such a role should be limited to quiet diplomacy. Washington should press New Delhi to resume autonomy negotiations with Kashmiri separatists. Success would put pressure on Islamabad for comparable concessions in Free Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan. In Pakistan, Washington should focus on getting Islamabad to stop aiding the insurgency in the Kashmir Valley and to give New Delhi a formal commitment that it will not annex Gilgit and Baltistan.

Precisely because the Gilgit-Baltistan region is so important to China, the United States, India and Pakistan should work together to make sure that it is not overwhelmed, like Tibet, by the Chinese behemoth.

Selig S. Harrison is director of the Asia Program at the Center for International Policy and a former South Asia bureau chief of The Washington Post.


SPREADING PROPAGANDA IS ONE THING BUT TO START BELIEVING IN THE SAME IS ALL OUT BLINDNESS....

guess who is having the last laugh...now stop talking about others n see whats going on in your own backyard...n try to ask your govt. some questions...if they have any idea about democracy they will answer you...
talking about secularism???you cant even keep your own shia muslims safe n u r talking about muslims in india...thats height of secularism...good going sire...keep it up n few years later india wouldn't have to worry about pakistan..

 

[Xeric]

No names.

Some indians here are fighting for proving how baysta type personalities they actually are.

:Hint: The guy's an expat.

No names

 

[Coltsfan]

No names.

Some indians here are fighting for proving how baysta type personalities they actually are.

:Hint: The guy's an expat.

No names

Scared are we?

BTW, what does baysta mean anyways? anyone?

 

[Desert Fox]

This is so f***ed up, i couldn't believe what i was seeing, they disgraced and humiliated those boys out in the open for everyone to see! Shame on india and shame on their barbaric army!

InshaAllah Kashmiris will gain their independence soon!

 

[Paan Singh]

This is so f***ed up, i couldn't believe what i was seeing, they disgraced and humiliated those boys out in the open for everyone to see! Shame on india and shame on their barbaric army!

InshaAllah Kashmiris will gain their independence soon!

without knowing abt originality of this video,u start to rant.