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[gowthamraj]

Mmm, now what happening in tibet.

Is media allowed there

 

[Break the Silence]

Mmm, now what happening in tibet.

Is media allowed there

Even I do not know!!

 

[civfanatic]

And to say that they are all angels from heaven shows ur bias. Intelligence agencies have already gathered reports and intercepted calls by some hurriyat leaders talking about the number of people martyred and expressing sorrow that only a few died and atleast 10 to 15 more deaths are required!!!!!

Pathetic attempt by Indian agencies To malign Geelani sahab and i will tell you In kashmir it is getting the ridicule it is deserving .

 

[Moorkh]

This is the greatest tragedy of this country that our people always have been reactionary. If the Intelligence agencies could find out this conversation after all the hell broke loose why couldn't they do it before all the fuss.
I say that the strategy for Kashmir has to be redrawn.

Firstly when the dust settles: A intelligence cover 24/7 should be spread over all the Hurriyat leaders.

Secondly the Intelligence agencies should be given a free hand no bureaucratic process here. Whenever they find such people no enquiry, no submission of proof. Kill these f..ing bastards.

If we want to be a responsible power atleast leave aside super, this is the only strategy. Covert ops within our Kashmir, no need to even go outside LOC.

sounds like u want india to become nazi germany or stalinist USSR.

free and fair trial is very very important. if it is not so, there can be abuse of power and we will be in deep ****

 

[sunakaffck]

now that's gay..

 

[Kompromat]

now that's gay..

Thats friendship.

 

[trident2010]

They want 10-15 more martyred, then lets start with hurriyat leader Ghulam Mohd Dar and Shabir Ahmed

 

[rohailmalhi]

Now here cum a Conspiracy Theory from Indians.
China Support Kashmiri freedom fighters.
China Support Moaists
China support

 

[blueoval79]

Man arrested after Kashmir intercept asking for more deaths

The man who has allegedly been recorded in a phone conversation asking for more people to be martyred in Kashmir has been arrested by the Jammu and Kashmir police.

NDTV reported on Thursday evening that Home Ministry sources have intercepted phone conversations between different leaders which suggest that some of the violence in the Valley is being instigated and provoked. In one such conversation, allegedly between Ghulam Ahmed and Shabir Wani, there is a reference to a protest rally in Budgam near Srinagar on July 7. The two men talk of money being exchanged. The phone transcript established Wani saying "There must be more deaths...10-15 more people must be martyred." (Read: Is some of the Kashmir violence planned and instigated?)

Shabir Ahmed Wani is the district President of the hardline Hurriyat Conference led by Syed Ali Shah Geelani.

Sources in the government are clear that while those instigating violence may be arrested, there is recognition of genuine protests and anger that will have to be tackled politically.

Curfew is currently being strictly enforced in Srinagar. At the request of Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, the Army has returned to the city after 15 years after a new spate of violence over the last month which saw several civilians, including a teenager headed home after a tuition class, killed in clashes between protesters and security forces. Earlier this week, a 25-year-old woman standing at her window, watching the chaos unfold on the streets in one of those protests, was shot by a stray bullet.

The Army is being used on the periphery of Srinagar with the Centre stating that its role is to act as a "deterrent."

The situation in Kashmir is being carefully monitored by the Union government. Home Secretary GK Pillai has visited Srinagar and said the situation is under control, and that the next few days will be crucial in the city's and government's attempt to find peace. (Read: More paramilitary forces for J&K, says GK Pillai)


Read more at: Man arrested after Kashmir intercept asking for more deaths

 

[Awesome]

Convenient...

It has nothing to do with the scores of fake encounters, rapes and arsons India is committing in Kashmir...

 

[lhuang]

All a conspiracy actually

 

[billi]

Convenient...

It has nothing to do with the scores of fake encounters, rapes and arsons India is committing in Kashmir...

.. for fake's sake please remember this.
all things you mentioned above are just that .. FAKE

 

[EjazR]

@civfanatic

The author is a Kashmiri and reporter of news outlet in J&K. Its one ofthe view in Kashmir valley. Not all Kashmiris follow Geelani. Even among the sepratists Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Yasin Malik e.t.c has had bigger following. Reason because Geelani is pro-Pak whileothers are not.

And by the way, you forgot to mention that Mirwaiz Umar Farooq's father was killed by Pakistani based militants. I might also add that JKLF which fought for a secular independant J&K actually was targeted by LeT Hizb and other Pakistani based exremists groups for their ideology.

I posted this article because it is someone who is from the state and these are his views.

 

[Awesome]

WSJI FLASH DEBATE: The Army Should Not Be Patrolling in Kashmir - India Real Time - WSJ

Pritish Agarwal — The line between the good guys and the bad guys is often blurred whenever there is a military presence in a civilian area. The public in general does not want to live under any kind of restrictions or face security inconveniences. The presence of army personnel is seen as a burden in Srinagar but we must not forget that they are there to curb a massive security threat. If strict guidelines and punishments ensure that the army men do not engage in any kind of misconduct, the people of Srinagar will eventually co-operate with them. In the long run, an army presence is an acceptable price for the eradication of insurgent elements in society.

Rahul Dash — The point here is to understand that the word “protest” is too general. A group of women taking to the streets to raise their voice against domestic abuse is a form of protest. The Maoists killing 100 jawans is also a form of protest. To say that no form of protest should be allowed would choke society to death. On the other hand, to allow each and every form of protest to exist would destroy it from within. Thus the entire issue comes down to drawing a line. I believe that a state is well within its rights to draw the line at protests targeting the very existence of the state in its current form. Hence, I support the army’s involvement in this particular case. (With great emphasis on those last three words.)

Kriti Gupta — In case of violent protest, it sometimes becomes important to deploy the army to contain anti-social forces. Having said that, civilian protests arise out of dissatisfaction with the government. So the main problem lies with the way the government of Jammu and Kashmir has handled the situation in the state. Irrespective of whether one thinks the army should or should not have been deployed, the ultimate blame for the situation rests on bad governance.

Neeraj Trikha — There is no denying the fact that common people in Kashmir have genuine grievances against the issues of unemployment and corruption. The anti-India protests themselves underscore the failure of government in meeting the aspirations of its citizens. But to look at the situation through a prism of civilian protests is short sighted. The anti-India protests come at a time when India and Pakistan are holding talks after a hiatus of two years. While it may not be prudent to categorically attribute all internal problems in the country to a foreign hand, things are different when discussing Kashmir. The home minister has suggested that Lashkar e Taiba may be fomenting the public unrest. This angle should not be ruled out as Pakistan has previously used similar tactics in Punjab to channel the angst in locals to meet its broader ulterior objectives. Moreover, violence in any form, be it stone pelting by citizens or be it an act of terrorism by foreign-bred nationals, should be quashed. Therefore, it is better to contain these already-incensed anti-India protests before the situation is further exacerbated. The pre-emptive step of the government of calling in the army may restore temporary peace in Srinagar, but for ensuring long term stability it is imperative for the government to address the legitimate issues of the people.

Praggamoy Dasgupta — The current political ignominy of Jammu & Kashmir is an upshot of two rationales. First, the inclination of Kashmiri youth to view politics through the lens of religion. Second, Omar Abdullah’s whimsical decision to withdraw 30,000 troops from the valley of Kashmir. In light of the recent fatalities from regular clashes between the CRPF and the stone-pelting mob, the Center’s stand in deploying military forces in Jammu & Kashmir as a “deterrent” is the only credible option at its disposal. The rage of the vehement mob is nonetheless an orchestrated mechanism of separatist organization which enjoys strongholds in Sopore and its vicinity, where the initial flak struck. The Omar Abdullah government could also be a victim of a perverse plan by his opposition parties, in power in districts like Anantag, which have also come to epitomize the dismal attributes of Kashmir’s Gen-X. To blame it on the incumbent government’s policy of introducing military rule in such turmoil would be preposterous. However, the immediate intention of the government and the military should be to restore peace and order without being provoked through use of a judicious military effort while at the same time diluting public anger through interactions with civil society and calling for the people’s co-operation in discouraging violent upsurges.

I'm glad that the modern Indian is finally coming to its senses that there may be no love for India in Kashmir and all that huey about Kashmir being an integral state of India is good for fairytales.

While these students are still beating around the bush, but they've finally started to debate the inevitable outcome for Kashmir - Kashmiris are no fans of India.

 

[Awesome]

Why do Indians constantly presuppose the Kashmiris to be dumbasses? "Oh you don't hate us, you've only been brainwashed into thinking so."

Stop deluding yourselves.