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There is a simple solution to Gilani and those like him.

Escort them to the border and throw them across (circus-type human catapaults come to mind).

If you are Pakistani, then you belong in Pakistan.

Stay out of India.

Period.

Cheers, Doc
Hey you feel no remorse in threatening a political leader of the Kashmiri people? Thats very shameful and stupid to say the least. you sound like a RSS agent



Sorry to burst your ignorant bubble, Gillani lives in what he considers his home - Pakistan - Kashmiri's have been saying this for 60 years. It's about time the pissing poor ignorant masses in India wake up and smell the Chai, and see their govn't's brutalities of Kashmiris
 
Already Kashmiris ARE in the position to rule India. Any Indian can become prime minister and rule India.

If that's the case, i totally forgot that Kashmiris have already ruled over Pakistan. Last time I checked Nawaz Sharif hails from a Kashmiri family :lol:
 
You guys are living in denial my friends.

62 years and counting.

Our great-great-grandchildren could be having the same entertainment on Pakistan Defense Forum 62 years hence.

And nothing would have changed.

India is comfortable with what it has. Too bad you are not.

Forget about Kashmir. Woh tumhare taqdeer mein nahin hai.

Concentrate instead on Balochistan, Pashnunistan, Waziristan, and Pakistan.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush .... even if its a headless bird.

Cheers, Doc
 
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The delima with Pakistan is that they have declared P0K as Azad Kashmir....so they can't own it...so even if under some remote circumstances the world community presses India to free Kashmir....it will become a new country....and Pakistan would lose whatever Part of Kashmir it currently Holds .....

Think of Pakistani situation now..." Age Kuaan ....Peeche Khai" ..

Either Kashmir Stays with India in its current form...or Kashmir is a new country.....what does Pakistan Get....Zilch...... Frustrating right.
 
I agree. Pakistan, unlike India, has taken the moral high ground .... kashmir for kashmiris.

India is very clear .... Kashmir is one of our many states.

Always was, always has been, is, and always will be.

There is no dispute as far as we are concerned .... only pakistani origin terrorism and insurgency and unrest and violence.

Which we know how to tackle. Till Pakistan gives up .... or is made to give up .... or has to give up.

Cheers, Doc
 
Kashmir is and was Pakistan so can u please shut up and do some dance in a temple or something

Can you elaborate your comment about using Temple word in this notion.

Thanks in advance.

On Topic.

Indian here a making unnecessary noise on Gilani's comments.

This what we want him to say.
By associating himself with Pakistan he has done most of the damage to Pakistan's policy of declaring a ***'s piece of land as Azad Kashmir. Furthermore this comments are explaining his frustration and divided within Huriyat.

According to many experts the pressure is now mounting more on separatists groups those who were trying to carry Kashmir youth along since many years and nothing has been done till date.

Recent development in valley is that being a pioneer province before militancy now valley is most backward in terms of economical development as compare to jammu and surrounding districts.

People like Gilani are still holding the flag of Pakistan just to make India look awkward every now and then. But what practically he be able to achieve is like ''These grapes are sore''.

Few Pakistani member developing a view that Bangladesh will be avenged by freedom of Kashmir is very poor thinking. If one could have a ideal and analytical approach then he will be able to understand that with contemporary Pakistani capabilities and few pockets of support from Kashmir separatist there are very very narrow chances that Kashmir will either join Pakistan or will gain freedom.

It took India 1 or less year to create Bangladesh and how much time you guys are wasting just renting like i quoted above to help so called Kashmir freedom is testimony to your inability and dysfunctional approach.

Furthermore there is nothing to cherish about such rallies against India, cause these are now more functional for local politics then anything to do with like of Pakistan.
 
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The delima with Pakistan is that they have declared P0K as Azad Kashmir....so they can't own it...so even if under some remote circumstances the world community presses India to free Kashmir....it will become a new country....and Pakistan would lose whatever Part of Kashmir it currently Holds .....

Think of Pakistani situation now..." Age Kuaan ....Peeche Khai" ..

Either Kashmir Stays with India in its current form...or Kashmir is a new country.....what does Pakistan Get....Zilch...... Frustrating right.
Actually no. We're perfectly happy with Kashmir going free and Pakistan losing Azad Kashmir to form this new country.
 
Actually no. We're perfectly happy with Kashmir going free and Pakistan losing Azad Kashmir to form this new country.


There goes the Kashmir Banega Pakistan ...slogan....out of the window...



So please care to reply to this:

A 2008 report by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees determined that Pakistan administered Kashmir, was 'Not Free'. It also criticized the Pakistani Government saying 'The appropriation of land in the Northern Areas by non-Kashmiri migrants from elsewhere in Pakistan, with the tacit encouragement of the federal government and army, has led to dwindling economic opportunities for the local population and an increase in sectarian tension between the majority Shia Muslims and a growing number of Sunnis.

UNHCR | Refworld | Freedom in the World 2008 - Kashmir [Pakistan]
 
Shopian ‘rape’: Doc tampered with swab?

SRINAGAR: The CBI has picked yet another hole in the post mortem of the two Shopian women who were ound dead near the south Kashmir town on May 30, saying that one of the doctors involved in inspecting crucial evidence had, at one point, falsely claimed to have used her own vaginal swabs to prove that the two were raped before their death.

In fact, the contents of the report are believed to be so contentious that the court had proscribed, until December 14, all media reports on the sordid episode.

In its report, CBI, which probed the case that triggered one of the longest-running protests in two decades, said Dr Nighat Shaheen had claimed to have used a glove in her dustbin to prepare the swab to prove rape on Asiya Jan (17) and sister-in-law Neelofar Jan (22). ‘‘Shaheen’s claim turned out to be false when the swab was matched with her husband’s blood sample,’’ said CBI DIG Satish Kumar Golcha.

Shopian ?rape?: Doc tampered with swab? - India - The Times of India
 
Actually no. We're perfectly happy with Kashmir going free and Pakistan losing Azad Kashmir to form this new country.

Funny .... doesn't azad mean free/independent?

So where is the question of pakistan losing something (happily or not) it does not have?

Or are you saying "azad" sirf naam ke waaste hai?

Like a Hero Honda CD 100 carrying a Ducati sticker ....

Cheers, Doc
 
You guys are living in denial my friends.

62 years and counting.

Our great-great-grandchildren could be having the same entertainment on Pakistan Defense Forum 62 years hence.

And nothing would have changed.

India is comfortable with what it has. Too bad you are not.

Forget about Kashmir. Woh tumhare taqdeer mein nahin hai.

Concentrate instead on Balochistan, Pashnunistan, Waziristan, and Pakistan.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush .... even if its a headless bird.

Cheers, Doc

The past one thousand or so years haven't been so bright however the future Only God knows what your taqdeer has been written before you.


You're factually wrong on many accounts. We have been able to successfully free approx 35% of the land in the past 60 years despite of the difficulties and hardships we faced against a mamooth adversary. We realize that it's a very long and stretched war that may take another 50 years or even longer. But rest assured victory is ours both in this world and the next...

Sacrifices of our martyrs are honored by God in the heavens and on earth by the masses,
whereas sacrifices of the oppressors go in vain as they burn to the ashes
 
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You're factually wrong on many accounts. We have been able to successfully free approx 35% of the land in the past 60 years despite of the difficulties and hardships we faced against a mamooth adversary. We realize that it's a very long and stretched war that may take another 50 years or even longer. But rest assured victory is ours both in this world and the next...

Now its you who is factually incorrect. You did not free .... your usurped. Right at the very begining. By surprise. Illegally.

How much have you been able to add to that score since then?

And what are your chances of catching us off-guard again?

Versus what are your chances of having the time or money or resources, otherwise tied up on your Western front?

Flashbacks of 1971?

As Sacrifices of our martyrs are honored in the heavens and on earth by the masses, whereas sacrifices of the oppressors go in vain as they burn to the ashes

In the end, its always dust to dust, ashes to ashes, for all of us ..... not only our martyrs.

Whether you bury, or cremate, or feed to the vultures. The cycle goes on ..... its part of the Carbon Credit/Debit cycle thats so fashionable in Copenhagen these days .....

Cheers, Doc
 
All of them want their land back which is occupied by India.

Simple as that.

they want the land "held by us" to be handed over ceremoniously to Pakistan...??
not happening anytime soon...even the most humanitarian of my creed would disagree to kashmir going to Pakistan...simple as that...whether they like it or not.
 
It seems through this discussion that India has no intention to end the bloodbath in Kashmir.
Respected Indian members do not tell me that you are unaware of the gross violations of basic human rights by your forces in Kashmir, do not tell me you still feel no pity for them(the Kashmiris), if you do then work to stop these violations and maybe Kashmiris will drop their demand of secession.
Simple............
 
Guys if you say India has occupied Kashmir, I will agree with you and there are reasons behind it. But I completly disagree if people say it is oppressed state. I have asked memebers to provide data regarding oppression ( rape, killing etc ) for 2009 none has responded with more then 1 case. If oppression is there atleast 100 rapes should have happened. About half million military good number of those are on border, few are in cities because of security situation. I heard now Islamabad also has bunkers in city, does that mean it is also oppressed.
Last I am all for people wish but condition does not support that, if azad Pakistan has settlers means it is not fair anymore.
 
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