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[GodlessBastard]

To be very fair, if we go by a Tsing dynasty map, Zangnan should be Chinese and Aksachin is Kashmir.

Old map here.
http://www.c-ref.de/gallery/albums/maps/historical/Qing-Empire1.jpg

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To be very fair, if we go by a Tsing dynasty map, Zangnan should be Chinese and Aksachin is Kashmir.

Old map here.
http://www.c-ref.de/gallery/albums/maps/historical/Qing-Empire1.jpg

What is Zangnan?

 

[conworldus]

Taking Zangnan back and holding it is impractical without proper transport and logistic support.

 

[conworldus]

What is Zangnan?

Southern Tibet, the part we fought a war over which you still occupy. The map shows it all.

 

[sensenreason]

Eventually Indian people will get their due and Pak-China combine will be taught a lesson. It might take 30 years but it will happen.Thats the time it will take for India to consolidate its economic and miltary power and complete internal cleanup and integration.

Its funny that while Mughals were dethroned by the British and they also conducted the Opium wars in China its India that bears the brunt of anti-imperial anger...even though its a fact that China TRADES and hence depends on the West much more than India and fights the Wests war in the case of Pakistan. Its hypocrisy. India has never and will never fully align with any other power like these two have....as I said..eventually they will learn by the dint of words or war.

 

[true_indian]

It seems my country's opinion matters.

Too bad China still does not recognize India's self-righteous sovereignty over Kashmir.

It might matter in other smaller countries it wouldn't work in India..If you are so powerful why don't pass a resolution against Kashmir in UN, we'll see what happens..or even arunachal pradesh if you can..

 

[huzihaidao12]

It's same as saying take the land if you have power to take it.

Fair enough. Let's not mourn for our forgotten ancestral land of 1000 years ago but talk in real terms and accept the reality as it is now.

Peoples Republic of China isn't the successor of yuan dynasty neither Republic of India is of mouryas or mughals.

It is a historical mistake, China is the successor of the Yuan Dynasty, and you ask the opinions of the Yuan emperor? Do not live in a self-world.

 

[oct605032048]

aksai chin translation meaning is china's white sand?? thats something new....

btw, chinese dragon why you insisted on aksai chin is a disputed territory since it is an undisputed territory to china from the very beginning?? china gov never admits it is a disputed territory right?

you may just help indians to create their bargaining chip by calling aksai chin is a disputed territory...

That is why Mr. Jiang said 'Too simple, sometimes naive' in English.

 

[true_indian]

^^ all of you are digressing from article itself. When India said 'Kashmir is what Tibet to China', I think they mean J&K not aksai chin, not even AG, GB.. Why do you have to make it India China issue..

 

[flameboard]

The UN is losing it power in the world it nothing but a bunch of people with political aims.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That is why Mr. Jiang said 'Too simple, sometimes naive' in English.

Ah yes I remember that.

So what does that have to do with what we are discussing?

 

[Peacefulll]

yes yes, we all know Indian people are genius map makers. You can try your fortune with any maps you would like to take to the land in real world. Good luck and good bye.

You didn't understand a word Abir said. Let me make it even simpler for you: in the ancient world, empires and kings were constantly at war, and boundaries and kingdoms kept changing. So it is utter nonsense to talk about 'Hari singh stole it from Ladakh'. That utter tripe is not relevant to the modern era anyway. India had empires like the Mauryas and Mughals who controlled large tracts of land which today, belong to other countries. If we go by your logic, we can claim most of that land. This is not too tough to understand, just think about it. And remain in the modern era, stop going back in history, coz' two can play that game.

 

[bandmaster]

Hidden in this "news" is the simple realization that
1. India will never ask for intervention as it can handle any Pakistani challenge on it's own. (No Nehru's on the Indian horizon).

2. The "disputed" status provides an incentive for Pakistan to escalate tensions. Indeed, the only thing that would concern the international community is that Pakistan may risk a nuclear war over Kashmir. However, India's handling of the Kargil war has proven that any adventure will be quickly suppressed without any discernible consequences.

3. Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh are not accepted as the root cause of Pakistani instability anymore. The total dysfunction in Balochistan, K-P and Swat has not gone unnoticed. Every arm-chair strategist is aware at district-level about the turmoil engulfing Pakistan.

So, while this news may raise some eyebrows, it is totally inconsequential. Pakistanis should have realized what the UN has been hinting at, for some time now.

 

[shineonyoucrazydiamond]

already discussing.. please merge..

 

[BigTree.CN]

Actually, China's opinion doesn't really matter either, because the areas of Kashmir that India wants belong to Pakistan only, not China.

Then no need to start a thread like this. If India can sort it out with Pakistan, whatever result it is, China will accept it.

Comparing Tibet and Taiwan to Kashmir is just another bargaining chip India is trying to create.

The Aksai Chin plateau is claimed by India only as a bargaining chip. As soon as you withdraw your illegitimate claim to Arunachal Pradesh, we will withdraw our claim to Aksai Chin.

China's claim to South Tibet is legitimate, it is not a bargainning chip, we have claimed Sout Tibet since the very beginning.

India's claim to Aksai Chin is just a bargainning chip, hence illegitimate.

There is no way China is gonna give up the claim to South Tibet just because India uses Aksai Chin as a bargainning chip. It only proves that bargainning chip works.

 

[Peacefulll]

It seems my country's opinion matters.

Too bad China still does not recognize India's self-righteous sovereignty over Kashmir.

Your country's opinion matters zilch as far as Kashmir issue is concerned. If it had indeed mattered so much, you would have already done something about it.

And please, stop this ultra-nationalistic talk of "Indians are bunch of expansionists, that is why they are doing this" That is an accusation that lots of countries around you can make of China as well.