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My point was why he is saying so? Has he any reasons or points to back his statement ?


In case of Kashmir we can understand that Kashmir was Never part of India neither Kashmiris consider themselves Indians.


But in case of Nagas??? what is their history ?

Devlopment
Then gov wanted some parts to be merged with assam
Growth

But things are changing with we having money in our belly and now you will hardly hear frm them apart from isolated cases.
 
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Devlopment
Then gov wanted some parts to be merged with assam
Growth

But things are changing with we having money in our belly and now you will hardly hear frm them apart from isolated cases.

Development is not the only issue, we mainlanders are almost always tend to ignore north-east. Tell me how many times do you see north-east to come up in news paper? They have a valid reason to feel alienated!
 
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India was never a country before it was invaded by British.
India was a princely states of more than 500 kingdoms.
But we are a Country today from Kashmir to Kanyakumari.
From Kashmiri to Malayali we are one

That Incredible India
 
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The early history of Nagaland is the story of the customs and economic activities of the Naga tribes. The people were originally referred to as Naka in Burmese languages, which means 'people with pierced ears'[citation needed]. The Naga tribes had socio-economic and political links with tribes in Assam and Burma (Myanmar); even today a large population of Naga inhabits Assam. Following an invasion in 1816, the area, along with Assam, came under direct rule of Burma. This period was noted for oppressive rule and turmoil in Assam and Nagaland. When the British East India Company took control of Assam in 1826, the Britain steadily expanded its domain over modern Nagaland. By 1892, all of modern Nagaland except the Tuensang area in the northeast was governed by the British. It was politically amalgamated into Assam. Missionaries played an important part in converting Nagaland's Naga tribes to Christianity.

Not much is known about the history before the Burmese invasion or before the Naga people were converted to Christianity.

[edit]Road to statehood
During World War I, the British recruited several hundred Nagas and sent them to France to work as aides at the front. While in Europe, the Naga, who had always been fractured by tribal differences, began to think that they should work towards becoming unified in order to protect their common interests. On their return to their homeland in 1918, they organized, and thus began the Naga nationalist movement.[1]

After the independence of India in 1947, the area remained a part of the province of Assam. Nationalist activities arose amongst a section of the Nagas, whose Naga National Council demanded a political union of their ancestral and native groups, damaged government and civil infrastructure and attacked government officials and civilians from other states of India. The Union government sent the Indian Army in 1955, to restore order. In 1957, the Government began diplomatic talks with representatives of Naga tribes, and the Naga Hills district of Assam and the Tuensang frontier were united in a single political entity that became a Union territory, directly administered by the Central government with a large degree of autonomy. This was not satisfactory to the tribes, however, and soon agitation and violence increased across the state—included attacks on Army and government institutions, as well as civil disobedience and non-payment of taxes. In July 1960, a further political accord was reached at the Naga People's Convention to wit: that Nagaland should become a constituent and self-governing state in the Indian union. Statehood was officially granted in 1963.
 
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India was never a country before it was invaded by British.
India was a princely states of more than 500 kingdoms.
But we are a Country today from Kashmir to Kanyakumari.
From Kashmiri to Malayali we are one

That Incredible India

Yes it was hindustan before that, it was Bharat before hindustan, and aryavrata before that.
 
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A kaleidoscope of colours and customs. A past made up of legend and stories of heroic warriors and each has their own language and unique traditions. Till five years ago Nagaland was very much off the beaten track for most tourists, but thanks to the development of tribal tourism this beautiful country is now accessible to India and the world, and it shows!

Model lives


Tuophema Tourist Village
One of the best places to stay in Nagaland would have to be Tuophema Village--a tourist village developed and maintained by the community. Here you are housed in cabins built in the traditional Naga style with modern amenities.

About 67 km from Kohima, Benreu is home to the Zemi Nagas and lies in the shadow of Nagaland's third highest peak, Mount Pauna. The Mount Pauna Tourist Village gives visitors a glimpse of this relatively undiscovered paradise. The eight cottages lie just beyond Benreu's community playground where three ornate totems stand for the three Zemi khels (or clans). Apart from interactions with the tribe, the cottages offer stunning views of the high, cloud-covered hills and the plains of Assam below.


Scenic vistas surround you in Nagaland
Aizuto, in the Zunheboto region of Nagaland, is a village blessed with beautiful surroundings, a peaceful environment and the added bonus of a Christian Mission Centre where one can embrace tranquillity. The Government of Nagaland opened the Tourist Destination Centre to promote the village as a wellness centre, apart from showcasing the tribal culture of the region. It's located in the grounds of the Aizuto Mission Centre, near the Anderson Theological College, and has five cottages and a heritage building with an annexe. Each cottage has two twin bedded suites, while the heritage building has four rooms for couples, with two VIP rooms in the annexe.

Tradition goes international


Modern Naga girls posing for the camera at Benreu
Nagaland is rich in its own festivals, but the latest, the Hornbill Festival, has grown really big in the last few years--the 2009 edition went international with troupes from Japan, Korea, Thailand and Myanmar. Held at the Kisama Tourist Centre, 12 km from Kohima, this festival sets Nagaland swaying to its rhythm between December 1 and 8 every year. It takes its name from the hornbill feathers that Naga warriors sport in their headdresses. Small stalls are set up at which you can buy exquisite local weaves, tribal jewellery and taste the cuisine of a very esoteric people. Each of the 16 Naga tribes has their own, so this is the ideal place to experience the culture of the region without having to go very far into the heartland.


At the Hornbill Festival you can see how music's reaching new heights in the State in the shape of fusion bands like Abiogenesis, which have evolved a form of world music called 'Howey', where Naga rhythms combine with traditional rock. Abiogenesis's beat has reached beyond the State's borders to Thailand and been listed in the 51st Grammies.

And there are new tourist experiences to be enjoyed that combine the festival with glimpses of tribal life in the interior, including an overnight stay at Tuophema's tourist resort with songs and dances around a bonfire.


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decide for yourself,if you think the islamic identity is the strongest,then take all the 13.4% of indian muslims into pakistan.this time we ll transport them without any harm,be happy and take kashmir also.why have this whole secular wecular bullshit drama.

Subramanian,

You are not asked to speak for the indian muslims.We know what is
best for us.If you think you cannot agree to indias secular idea it is you who should go out from india.
I as indian muslim is happy tollive in india,and is proud tobe an indian.
My only problem is only some indians(both in hindus & muslims) who cannot tolerate others
 
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When Kashmiris, Nagas, Maoists and others sought justice

By Jawed Naqvi

The creation of Pakistan from the Indian subcontinent was not inevitable. It happened despite several attempts to avert its formation, including efforts by the Muslim League. Former Indian foreign minister Jaswant Singh has given a compelling account in his book of the Congress party’s arrogance and culpability in forcing Jinnah to say enough is enough.

By the same token, the independence of Bangladesh from Pakistan was not a pre-determined fact.

Islamabad’s grievous mishandling of the situation led to a truncated Pakistan. The same argument could apply to Kashmir. It is of course not surprising that the Indian middle class, led by its Murdochian TV channels, advocates military force to tame Kashmir’s anti-India upsurge in the way Gen Yahya Khan unleashed military terror in East Pakistan. However, somewhat hypocritically while it celebrates India’s military intervention, which led to the creation of Bangladesh, when it comes to Kashmir the Indian middle class takes the opposite view.

As with Pakistan and later with Bangladesh, there was, and perhaps still is, nothing imminent about Kashmir’s Azadi from India. But everything has been mishandled for years (and is being made worse on a daily basis) by New Delhi. And that has paved the way for people to believe that Azadi is the only option which gives them justice and dignity.

In the early days of Kashmir’s alienation from New Delhi, Nehru had asked leftist film scribe Khwaja Ahmed Abbas to intervene on his behalf with Sheikh Abdullah. Nehru died before there could be progress. Now Manmohan Singh has assembled a group of interlocutors. One of them has already come up with the most original non-starter – suggesting the Indian constitution be changed to accommodate the Kashmiris’ sentiments. Now you don’t need a constitutional change to withdraw troops from Kashmir, or to free its political prisoners, or to hold serious talks with Pakistan, or to punish the rapists and torturers who are claiming to be the defenders of the Indian state, or to hold a referendum to ascertain the people’s will in Kashmir.

You need an administrative order and a will to carry out the mandate of democracy.

That’s all.

The government sensed trouble when a group of representatives of seriously disaffected people came together on a platform at a recent seminar about Kashmir in Delhi called ‘Azadi—the only way’. The furore over sedition charges against Arundhati Roy and Syed Ali Shah Geelani who also addressed the seminar was a complete red herring, a compulsory digression for the Indian state and its rightwing props because neither Roy nor Geelani said anything they hadn’t said for years. The furore was a deliberate decoy to head off the debate on ‘Hindu terror’ after Indresh Kumar, a senior member of the RSS, was named in a CBI charge-sheet for a bomb blast in the Ajmer Sharif dargah in which many were killed.

However, in chasing a completely false lead about sedition and so forth, the state and the media may have missed out on the significance of an historic meeting of disparate ideological and political groups. Nagas, Manipuris, Sikh separatists, Maoists and human rights activists, among others, were discussing their separate injustices at the hands of the Indian state in the context of the brutalisation of Kashmir. Even as they had assembled at the Little Theatre Group under the ruse of speaking for Kashmir, India’s intelligence agencies could not have been entirely unaware of the momentous nature of the event. Ironically, the Maoists and the Kashmiri separatists who had come together for the first time on a platform in Delhi had once shared a common history.

For example, the Maoists are but an evolved offshoot of the Telangana struggle against the Nizam of Hyderabad, in which communist cadres had participated in his armed overthrow. The Kashmiris are the inheritors of an anti-feudal struggle against Hari Singh, the former ruler of Jammu and Kashmir, that was led by Sheikh Abdullah.

It was in 1941 that Abdullah’s Jammu and Kashmir National Conference joined All India States Peoples Conference, the arm of the Congress Party that was working for democracy in the princely states and was pitted against the Rajas who were technically outside the realm of British empire. When the Sheikh joined the Quit India movement in 1942, he was welcomed and applauded. But when he launched a Quit Kashmir campaign against Hari Singh in 1946, he was surprised by the aloofness from many in the Congress. It does not seem to bother our contemporary democrats that Kashmir’s Accession certificate was signed by a discredited monarch who did not have the trust of his people.

Anyway, at the recent Azadi meeting one set of comrades whose history goes back to the Telengana peoples’ struggle against a feudal ruler came out in in support of another set of comrades whose independence had been subverted by the newly formed Indian state.

In Hyderabad the Indian government had encouraged a people’s movement to overthrow the Nizam, in Kashmir it subverted the people to sign a controversial Instrument of Accession with its feudal ruler. Even Lord Mountabatten made mention of the need to get the people’s approval on Hari Singh’s transactions with New Delhi, but all that is now forgotten history.

Let me end here, by quoting the views of two important speakers at the Azadi meeting, which were largely ignored by the media and the state in their hunt for Arundhati Roy.

Varavara Rao, a self-confessed Maoist and poet, said in an interview after the event that the Maoists were firmly behind the Kashmiri people’s struggle for the right to self-determination and justice.

A Naga separatist, who spoke at the meeting, also gave reasons about why his movement stood in solidarity with the Kashmiris.

Varavara Rao to Tehelka magazine: “I feel Azadi is the only way for Kashmir. Self-determination is the right of every nationality. Being a Maoist, I support revolutionary and independent movements of people. On that Marxist-Leninist principle, I support the nationality struggle of Kashmir and of the Northeast. I come from the Hyderabad riyasat. Both Hyderabad and Kashmir were invaded by India. Even the Indian Union uses the word ‘accession’ in both cases. They annexed Hyderabad on the pretext that the rulers are Muslims and the ruled are Hindus. In Kashmir, they said the king is Hindu. In both places, they played the Hindu card.”

The general secretary of the Naga People’s Movement for Human Rights, N. Venuh, is an advocate of independent Nagaland. In his speech during the convention on Kashmir, he espoused the cause of Azad Kashmir, drawing parallels between the two states.

“We are not part of India, so we cannot be called secessionists. The government has to give us our rights. We can be friends with the Indian State, but cannot be part of the Indian Union.” On similarities between the Naga struggle and Kashmiris, he said: “Yes. History tells us that Kashmir is a disputed territory. This is why the UN office is still there in Srinagar.

The Kashmiris should have the right to self-determination. They should be allowed to decide whether they want to be with India or go their own way. This is true for Nagas. We never wanted to be a part of India.”

As I said, the recent meeting on Kashmir was a landmark event. Call it secessionist or a call for sedition, or whatever. Arundhati Roy and Syed Ali Shah Geelani were not the main story. This is what the Indian media and the Indian state would do well to understand and, if possible, accept.



When Kashmiris, Nagas, Maoists and others sought justice Opinion columns, editorials, Dawn 50 years ago today, blogs, letters to the editor and other voices
First you claim that we shouldn't play religion card then all of a sudden you barge in with "MUSLIMS being ruled by kafirs". Then how come it is not a religion issue? Sub-continent's woes are simply a cause of religious war between two religions. Secular and Liberal members might be willing to disagree with me but this is the core.

Nagas have one of the most decorated regiments in the Indian Army and the militancy there is for Socialist government rule with Christian fundamentalist principles mixed in terrorist groups like Isaak Muivah that even common Nagas hate. I am from northeast and I know the situation here well. Most of these terrorist groups use drug trafficking and illegal arms supply to criminal gangs and underworld dons in the region as source of income for "independence" :P near Indo-Burmese borders and FYI many units have been taken out in last 2 years joint operations by Indian and Burmese armies. Details are not out so can't tell or show link more than what has been published.

"asking-for-independence-"so-called Kashmiris have no right for claiming human rights after what they did to other non-Muslim as well as proud Muslim Indian Kashmiris (who fled the valley and came to other parts of the country) to demographically make it look as if it was a part of Pakistan so we don't accept the demands of a few lakh losers as compared to the full Kashmir population who're with India. 76% voting turnover last year was more than enough to prove this.

And I don't get whether it is general thick-headedness here or blind hatred against us Indians that doesn't make people on PDF understand one thing that's been repeated more than 3 dozen times; Maoists don't want any "independence". They want to rule India on Communist principles. That means if (Goodness forbid) they come to power, these "Kashmiris, Nagas and others" who're "asking for independence" will be crushed with inhuman brutality in a communist government where even common citizens cannot raise their voice forget separatists. :lol:

Not to mention everything associated to religion (including Islamic sentiments for those who don't get the idea of general Communist terror threat) will be flattened. Maoists still believe in command economy-national structure as compared to the ones that Chinese follow which is single-party-capitalism. Don't confuse the two concepts.

Our stand remains clear for separatists in Kashmir: you're free to go to Pakistan anytime you want; but the land stays with us.

So stop thinking that just because they're anti-democratic, they're anti-Indian. If you feel sorry for Maoist cause then here this: There are lot of poor and low middle class people who work hard, earn 3 meals a day, live in small houses and came up in this same democratic India.

Our ex-president Dr. APJ Kalam was a slum-dweller who didn't have decent meals in his childhood and see what position he rose to and became through same hardwork and dedication. The owner of Reliance Industries, Dhirubhai Ambani worked as a petrol pump boy as a young guy; today where is his empire? It is India's mightiest financial empire and a pillar to our growing power. There are thousands of such examples in this same "unfair, capitalist" India, where the poor and decrypt those who've not even had 2 meals properly have become the most influential and powerful people in the country.

Why then can't Maoists do the same? If he can do this, why can't these bloody Maoist hypocrites do so? Because they're bloody lazy and blame their miseries on others. Maoists are not exception to be given everything in gold platter and if they want to take to guns, we'd destroy these terrorists with full fury. They will get their punishment for creating terror and soon their apologists would also be tried and punished.
 
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Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris (muslims).

I am forever thankful for people like you. Till the time you guys are around, J&K will always stay with India. Thank you so much for giving the whole issue of Kashmir the color of Religious fanatism so abhored by the world today.. May your type and their mentality survive till eternity.
 
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I am forever thankful for people like you. Till the time you guys are around, J&K will always stay with India. Thank you so much for giving the whole issue of Kashmir the color of Religious fanatism so abhored by the world today.. May your type and their mentality survive till eternity.

Exactly..these guys with these type of rhetoric are doing a wonderful job of hardening the position of common Indians and the beautiful part is they dont know that they are doing it. :D
 
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Same tactic which was used in Bangladesh as "bengali nationalism" and in sikkim!
What rubbish are you talking about? What was tried in Sikkim? You might want to repeat that. Sikkim joined India willingly. It is hard for you to accept this since military dictatorship in your country most of the time meant you're used to using force. This was because culturally and religiously, we're Indians and this is not the first time when Sikkim has joined India.

We were a serving kingdom to the Mauryan empire as well and prior to that. Get your history about us Sikkimese right before reading it off your master's mouthpiece; the People's Daily.
 
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guys

decide for yourself,if you think the islamic identity is the strongest,then take all the 13.4% of indian muslims into pakistan.this time we ll transport them without any harm,be happy and take kashmir also.why have this whole secular wecular bullshit drama.

No way man.. I have lots of muslim friends.... what the crap are you talking.. Because of a rant by one guy why do you take all of them for the toss??.. After all they our people why will you make them struggle further by sending them to Pakistan at present there is no opportunity for them there?
 
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