Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[KS]

One who gets to read her essays will know that she is just another wannabe.

A virulently anti-Hindu,anti-establishment,anti-India female and no wonder the venom comes out as the ink in her pen.

 

[The HBS Guy]

One who gets to read her essays will know that she is just another wannabe.

A virulently anti-Hindu,anti-establishment,anti-India female and no wonder the venom comes out as the ink in her pen.

It's amazing how people like these forget how much they owe to the country that has given them everything.

Perfect parasites!

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Arundhati Roy and Kashmir's struggle for justice​

Roy's persecution for speaking out over Kashmir shows India's growing intolerance of the region's distress​

The current unrest in Kashmir has met with an increasingly brutal response from the Indian military. Photograph: Farooq Khan/EPA


Murtaza Shibli guardian.co.uk,
Thursday 28 October 2010 13.59

The news that the prize-winning Indian author Arundhati Roy may be arrested for her remarks about Kashmir is not surprising. It is a sign of growing Indian intolerance towards the issue. During the current phase of the Kashmiri intifada, the only Indian response to Kashmiri demands for justice and self-determination has been the use of overwhelming military force. More than 112 civilians – mostly youths – have been killed and several thousand injured, mainly by the Indian military and paramilitary.


In the absence of strong international criticism, the Indian state has been emboldened to crush any dissent or demands of justice ferociously. Intimidating Kashmiri civil society has always been part of the standard Indian response, but it has grown exponentially over the last few months. In early July, the police arrested Mian Qayoom, president of the Kashmir Bar Association (the main lawyers' body), for protesting against human rights violations. He was arrested under the draconian Public Safety Act, which authorises incarceration for up to two years if the authorities feel that the detainee may disturb peace and order or threaten the security of the state.


Several other human rights activists, such as Ghulam Nabi Shaheen and political workers remain behind bars, along with hundreds of Kashmiri youths who have been detained for offences such as throwing stones at gun-toting Indian armed forces.


Frustrated by having to treat the mounting casualties amid curfew restrictions and with dwindling medical supplies, a group of doctors at the government medical college in Srinagar staged a peaceful sit-in – only to be accused by the police of various "offences" including rioting and "disobedience to order duly promulgated by public servant". The police also accused them of inciting people and using "anti-national slogans". The largest local newspaper, Greater Kashmir, lamented that creating an atmosphere of intimidation in this way "speaks of the mindset that always contributed to the worsening of the situation". It continued: "Rather than establishing a connect with its people and knowing from them what has gone wrong and how can it be corrected, government, by initiating such actions against people, is only pushing the situation towards worse."


From the very beginning of the current unrest, the government adopted the policy of restricting journalists reporting on demonstrations and brutal government responses. The Indian army and paramilitary forces beat several journalists, refused to respect their curfew passes and even forced closure of leading newspapers as their offices remained locked and the journalists were denied access. In one such incident in July this year, 12 photojournalists working for local, national and international publications suffered serious injuries from security forces trying to stop them recording the demonstrations. One of the BBC's Urdu service journalists, Riaz Masroor, was stopped and beaten by police as he went to collect his curfew pass on 9 July. According the BBC, he suffered a fractured arm.

In September, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) renewed its call to allow Kashmiri journalists to cover the unrest. This is how Anuradha Bhasin, the executive editor of the Kashmir Times, described the situation to me in an email in September: "The level of intimidation is so high that many reporters have been forcibly doing table [desk-based] stories, mainly operating from the homes. And as an editor, sometimes, even I find that a safer arrangement, given the vulnerability of the reporters in simply stepping out of their homes".


The current phase of intifada has deeply exposed Indian vulnerability in Kashmir. In absence of any Pakistani support to the new generation of Kashmiris, Indian claims to blame Pakistan, Islamic terrorism and Lashkar-e-Taiba have lost credibility even among its own population.


This has provoked several newspaper reports and opinion articles by Indian journalists and commentators that not only question India's brutal tactics but also have shown sympathy to Kashmiri demands. It has created what Roy rightly describes as "panic about many voices", and the threat of charging her with sedition, she says, "is meant to frighten the civil rights groups and young journalists into keeping quiet".

As the "ISI or Laskhar-e-Taiba" theory of the protests becomes increasingly untenable, Kashmiri demands are finding greater resonance within Indian civil society. The threat to Roy may be a crude attempt to prevent such criticism from gathering momentum at a time when Barack Obama is planning a visit to India next month. India is determined to keep Kashmir out of the picture and, to achieve this, intimidation and terror against Kashmiris has already entered another phase.

Arundhati Roy and Kashmir's struggle for justice | Murtaza Shibli | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

State terrorism cannot suppress Kashmiris’ struggle: Nayeem​

Srinagar, October 30 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, APHC leader Nayeem Ahmad Khan has maintained that Indian state terrorism cannot suppress Kashmiris’ ongoing liberation struggle.

Nayeem Ahmed Khan, in a statement in Srinagar urged the pro-movement leaders to forge greater unity among their ranks to take the ongoing struggle to its logical conclusion.

The APHC leader reiterated that the matchless sacrifices offered by the Kashmiri people would not be allowed go waste. “We respect the sacrifices rendered by our people for a just cause,” he added.

Nayeem Khan deplored that Indian troops were using killings, extra-judicial murders, random arrests, illegal detentions, custodial disappearances and molestation of women besides arson and destruction of the civilian property as a weapon of war in the territory to break the Kashmiris’ resolve to get rid of Indian bondage.

State terrorism cannot suppress Kashmiris? struggle: Nayeem | Kashmir Media Service

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism denounced ​

Srinagar, October 28 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, the Tehreek-e-Hurriyet (TeH) Jammu and Kashmir has denounced the stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism in the territory.

The spokesman of Tehreek-e-Hurriyet in a statement issued in Srinagar said that Indian Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel barged into the houses in Palhalan Pattan and subjected the inmates to brute force. “The CRPF men molested the women and vandalised the household goods,” he added.

He said that Indian police resorted to heavy lathi charge and tear gas shelling against the peaceful protestors in Nagam Chadoora who were protesting against the illegal detention of three innocent Kashmiri youth, Irfan, Imtiaz and Muddasar.

Condemning the gross human rights violations by Indian troops, he expressed concern over the deteriorating health of illegally detained Hurriyet leaders and activists including Muhammad Ashraf Sehrai, Mir Hafeez, Muhammad Rafiq Ghanai, Ayub Dar and others in the jails. “The authorities have not provided them with sufficient medical facilities due to which they have developed various ailments,” he maintained

Stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism denounced | Kashmir Media Service

 

[Fireurimagination]

NEW DELHI: Militants in Jammu and Kashmir have expressed their willingness to present a "peace plan" during their meeting with the group of interlocutors appointed by the Centre, a move seen as "something important" by Dilip Padgaonkar, who led the three-member team.

Giving details about their meetings with those from militant groups, Padgaonkar said, "The first time we met guys from terrorist organisations. They said would you mind coming again once. We need to talk to you. So we went a second time."

"And the second time, during an hour and a half, something quite surprising took place which was one of those guys who acted as spokesperson of one of these organisations said to us that they would like to submit to us also a peace plan," he said in an interview to a TV channel.

The person asked the group whether they would be prepared to wait for few days because they too wanted their voice to be heard.

"They believed that they have a roadmap etc. So we said we have come to listen to you. We are quite prepared. As and when you prepare your point of view, let us know and we will examine that as well. I see this as something important because this is when the idea came that you need to talk to people. That was the message given to us," he said.

Replying to objections raised about the meeting of Radha Kumar, one of the three interlocutors, with people accused of terror, she said, "They do represent, unfortunately, a rather ugly view point in Kashmir but that is important for us to meet them."

She said the purpose of her visit to prison was to meet young detainees "stonepelters" and political prisoners. It was during one such visit that she met people charged with terror which transpired into an "interesting meeting", she said.

She said the view of terrorists may be "unpalatable but that we must listen to them."

Kumar said, "As far as the dissident groups are concerned especially the Hurriyat groups we do understand their compulsions and we will always be willing to listen to them, their point of view. That is part of our mandate."

She said it was very rare to meet the Mirwaiz, Geelani or leaders of that opinion on a first visit.

"It (peace process) needs to build up," she said adding that there was not commitment for such meeting in next visit.

On BJP's accusation against them of using the language of separatists, Padgaonkar said if the group was speaking their language, they would not not have been boycotted.

When asked about his statement on factoring in of Pakistan, Padgaonkar said the country has been involved in Jammu and Kashmir since 1947-48 through overt means and covert means of violence and diplomatic discussion.

Former Central Information Commissioner Ansari said resistance from Hurriyat leaders as well as a "major political party" is a hindrance in their access to certain sections of people both in Kashmir as well as in Jammu.

Kumar said her comments on changes in the Constitution to accommodate demand of Azadi were "distorted".

"My comments were distorted. What I did say was that the Indian Constitution has proved itself flexible time and again. If the Parliament is convinced that there is some solution, that require any change. That would be up to them to decide," she said.

The academician also stressed for great degree of freedom on ground particularly removal of seize like situation.

Padgaonkar said there was great degree of alienation in all section of people particularly young people.

"Interlocutors here have come and gone. Promises were made but not kept...We are for an engagement for the dialogue process but until there is any change on the ground the whole exercise is going to be futile," he said.

Read more: Kashmir militants to submit peace plan to interlocutors - The Times of India Kashmir militants to submit peace plan to interlocutors - The Times of India

Kashmir militants to submit peace plan to interlocutors - The Times of India

A good start I would say, what say should India talk to militants?

 

[KS]

A good start I would say, what say should India talk to militants?

First thing is that we should distinguish betweeen the militants and terrorists.

Talks can be held with groups like Hizbul Mujaheddin but no dealings should be kept with groups like LeT,JeM.

Secondly the pre-condition of immediate cease-fire with a gradual renunciation of violence/arms must be made in exchange for creating an alternative means of livelihood for the militants and a renewed life

No negotiation must be made at the point of gun.

Thirdly only autonomy must be discussed.....NO Secession.

 

[Fireurimagination]

First thing is that we should distinguish betweeen the militants and terrorists.

Talks can be held with groups like Hizbul Mujaheddin but no dealings should be kept with groups like LeT,JeM.

Secondly the pre-condition of immediate cease-fire with a gradual renunciation of violence/arms must be made in exchange for creating an alternative means of livelihood for the militants and a renewed life

No negotiation must be made at the point of gun.

Thirdly only autonomy must be discussed.....NO Secession.

Agree with each and every point of yours, I do believe the North East model could be replicated in Kashmir but surely there are few differences especially the outside support and the religious angle

 

[Y2A]

Curing Crescent

by Ahson Malick on 2010/10/04 ·



Has anyone observed a journey? Crescent’s journey? Crescent’s journey is quite fascinating when journey completes it becomes full moon, sign of intoxicating excellence, goddess of dreamers, shins high over failed saints and unbelievers. Its journey has always been a marquee, raised questions, created uncertainty, but still it light the paths in the dark, To feel its journey one can follow it over the wastelands, trouble waters, and watch drowning souls, mourning spirits, some in love of its journey and some in hate of its shine, some praising its existence some mocking it’s lime, painting dark from its pale light , what they ignore is fact that it’s a cycle and at the end of it crescent cures into full moon, journey completes , no more darks, no more pales, journey of crescent cured it to prevail. Failed saints have their reason so do the unbelievers; crescent came into being against their will. remorse of failed saints’ is more regarding the picker of the crescent, Their regret was that crescent’s picker doesn’t belong to their legion, how he could be? He was above it. He was way above them all, and contradiction in saints’ stance was so very obvious that people who wanted to believe rejected those saints, ironically made them failed, leaving a resent within them. Unbelievers were just plain refusers, why? Because moon lights the darkness of selfish idols, dark essential for their existence.

Ironically creation, existence, rise, fall and then another expected reemergence of Pakistan fits into above explained pretext, people can argue what’s the point discussing it over and over again well its not my fault to accept, it’s the bloody history which just keep repeating itself so it’s always worthy to ring the bell for a next amendment, did someone say ground realities.? Yes they are horrible, more than 30% of Pakistan was and is still suffering from flood waters, terrorist both foreign and domestic are having time of their life executing plans on as and when basis, Baluchistan is burning, drones flying, civil administration falling apart taking one step forward and two step back against judiciary, supreme court is on a dual against “elected” government, prime minister forcing his family purification demanding for respect on the name of his great forefather who commanded respect through his character and work, Karachi again spilling blood, media mocking and I am pretending to give a damn of what happening around and having my nice cup of tea at 9:55 AM yes these are ground realities but is that all..? No its not, watching down the roads of history cruel idles of time are witnessing yet another display of supreme pure character from people of Kashmir, yes its supreme, yes its pure, losing your love ones for the sake of freedom for more than sixty years certainly is wholesome.

History of Kashmir and of Kashmir issue since 1947 is too well-known to be narrated here in detail. In short, it is a sad and shameful story of broken promises, dishonored pledges, baseless and misdirected steps on the part of Pakistan; of extreme selfishness and short-sightedness on the part of most Kashmiri leaders and of double standards and apathy towards its duties concerning human rights, on the part of international
community in general and the United Nations in particular. For 40 long years after 1947, Kashmiris tried peacefully to persuade India to honor her pledges of conceding to them their right of self-determination but failed. As such they decided to resort to the only alternative available to them, i.e., armed freedom struggle and started it in 1988 under the banner of Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF).

But now Kashmir is rising again, it’s a new dawn for them, can anyone suppress them? Ask yourself, suppressors themselves are being suppressed, and echoes of independence can be heard loud and clear Kashmiris bleeding and yet not hearing the “faithful” pleading from India, instead listening to the wise minds Indian think tanks are still looking to connect these displays of intend from people of Kashmir as unrest of fuss created by Pakistan just add a foot note to what Indian think tanks are up to by revisiting Mr. Manmohan Singh would be a good idea , Prime Minister of India is fond of sharing his classified information with the US President, Mr Singh thinks US president is outdated and away from reality about Pakistan. According to Mr Singh Pakistan is already imploded, and Mr. Obama is few minutes behind history as he doesn’t see it now, may be because of the dust clouds thrown up by the collapse in Afghanistan, but once they disperse which is quite evident, soon he will see the scale of calamity To cover up the process of Indian disintegration, Mr. Singh is using the smoke screen through electronic and print media. I remember India was shining a few years ago; last time I checked it was incredible India. Future slogan? Well try to fill in the blank, for the information of Mr. Obama, the future of India is bleak and the world needs to be very careful why? Because there are twenty-two of out of 29 states of India which are asking for independence from the Indian union. There are more than 100 private armies fighting the Indian army for independence. More than 2000 defense personnel including 544 officers have been killed only in Kashmir during the last 10 years. More than 25000 army personnel have been killed by the freedom fighters in other 21 states of India during the last 10 years, world hunger index is declaring Indians as more starved as sub Saharan desert, shining “incredibly shining” indeed.

Above mentioned facts take care of what Kashmiris will be facing when go toe in toe with Indian, doomed to say the least, defines the level of moral ground on which occupied forces are standing, but when I looked at our side I found failed saints and unbelievers lining up against them, with all “due” respect to the writer and readers of “facts are facts”, followers of Maulana Asad Madani’s school of thought in Pakistan, they are doing what are they known to do, taking a diffrent stance, dead red caps of Khyber Puktoonkwah shamefully argued over the unanimous resolution of parliament (though just a mere resolution nothing substantial) in support of the current uprising and protest of Kashmiris against the ugly indian regime, what has this action achieved? Nothing, it’s just further clarifies the fact that which sides these people belong, are they belong to the group which loves the existence of crescent? Do they support its journey no they don’t, they just can’t, it’s too much of a privilege to be held upon, chairm’E’n of Kashmir comite was lip zipped earlier now accepting that ministry of foreign affairs has kept him uninformed about recent developments and official stance of Govt of Pakistan, pity? Yes it is, but for whom? Role of ANP in province which suffer most in recent years not only by so-called war on terror but later also by the most devastating flood world has witnessed in recent times is just not worthy enough to be discuss here, only significant news which came out from these events were the bubbles of ANP government creating obstacles in relief work attempted by the “banned” organizations, banning them on the account of their own failure, unbelievers failed to deliver, and failed saints? can some buddy tell me what was the role of great (in size) Fazal-ur-Rehman’s in all fiasco? And yet each band has its reservation over most national stances over various issues of national interests, Kashmir is one of those, what is the message we are trying to deliver to the freedom fighters who chant for Pakistan and wave the flag higher than most of us ? Kashmiris will going to get what they are looking for, this ain’t a statement, its more of rational reason more of s a faith, unending, undying part of the fate, because night is darkest just before the dawn, journey is on, distance is getting covered, trekkers never flinched even on an inch, going on and on from wastelands and trouble waters, sailing along, traveling along, all what failed saints and unbelievers can do is watch the journey, oppose it with ill-logical claims and acting upon tweak of the pulled strings, strings from which they are attached dearly, and paid fairly, but journey goes on, taking about journey, dared to observed a journey? One on the dark skies? The Crescent’s journey? Crescent’s journey is quite fascinating, when journey completes, it heals & becomes a full moon, sign of intoxicating excellence, goddess of dreamers, shins high over failed saints and unbelievers.
Curing Crescent ? Pro-Pakistan​

 

[DEXTOR]

huh? another sicko with an other kashmir related article i didnt wasted my time to read this...just wana say..."kitna bhi hye-hula macha lo kuch nahi hone wala" there is only one way to take kashmir back, and that is to attack on j&k and capture it,,,otherwise dont live in wet dreams....And yeah before anyone reply i wana say that "I am waiting for that day more eagerly then you" and yeah your so called ghazwa-e-hind too..! just waiting for that day..!


"kashmir is and kashmir will remain an integral part of india" :- congress cheif sonia gandhi

 

[Y2A]

huh? another sicko with an other kashmir related article i didnt wasted my time to read this...just wana say..."kitna bhi hye-hula macha lo kuch nahi hone wala" there is only one way to take kashmir back, and that is to attack on j&k and capture it,,,otherwise dont live in wet dreams....And yeah before anyone reply i wana say that "I am waiting for that day more eagerly then you" and yeah your so called ghazwa-e-hind too..! just waiting for that day..!


"kashmir is and kashmir will remain an integral part of india" :- congress cheif sonia gandhi

I was expecting a saner reply, yeah hard to come buy when one is surrounded by insane, unbalanced traditional mind set, Kashmir is for people of Kashmir whats lady ghandi said is irrelevant.

its just like when you were failed to pass your fifth grade exams because you came here all blazing, waving saffron flag hoping to get an award of bravery on "word war" congress could feel happy on this but your parents will defiantly get disappointed as they would have ideally want you to focus more on your studies, pass your high school son...leave these issues for educated people to address, its just too much for may be a fifty year old fifht grade student to think about.

 

[foxbat]

The article is extremely self serving and delusional. The key coordinator of the recent protests (which on the face of it were spontaneous, but in reality were well coordinated) has been identified and nabbed. Havent heard anything significant coming out of J&K since then, except the obvious rants of Hurriyat and "please look at me" attempts from suu kyi wannabe Ms Roy..

 

[roach]

No damage to India from Arundhati Roy's remarks

No damage to India from Arundhati Roy's remarks - Hindustan Times

How should the government respond to the remarks made by Arundhati Roy about Kashmir and about the behaviour of our armed forces in that state? So far, public opinion has been largely guided by two factors. The first of these is the public view of Roy. Many — if not most — educated Indians have no
time for Roy. In a recent TV discussion, the actor Anupam Kher characterised her as a 'one-book wonder', as a woman who has shot her literary bolt and now keeps herself in the news by making increasingly outrageous anti-Indian statements for the benefit of the foreign media. Her caricature of India as some sort of neo-Nazi state where minorities are routinely persecuted and the poor cheerfully exploited offers foreign journos a useful counterpoint to the 'Indian success story' headlines and gives them a lazy way of adding dissenting notes to the usual India pieces.

Kher may have been overstating his case for the benefit of the TV cameras but his position is, broadly speaking, the view of the educated Indian middle class. Even within the liberal Left, it is getting harder to find support for Roy's views. Some years ago, the historian Ram Guha wrote that the problem with Roy was that she damaged the many good causes she often associated with because of her style and over-statement. At that time, Guha's view was controversial. Now, it is pretty much the conventional wisdom.

So, many of the public responses to Roy's statements have been guided less by the statements themselves and more by the public perception of Roy.

The second factor is the nature of Roy's speeches. Eminent lawyers argue that a case for sedition could easily be made out on the basis of her demands for Kashmiri independence. Certainly, there is much in her comments to offend most Indians: the suggestion that India is an occupying power that imposes its rule on Kashmir through torture, brutality and **** is deliberately provocative.

These two factors have been enough to cause many people — including political parties — to demand her arrest. She should be tried for sedition or treason, they say. Freedom of speech is all very well up to a point. But we all accept that there must be restraints on free speech and treason is one area where free speech can be legitimately curtailed.

Roy's defenders fall back on an argument suggested by Roy herself ("pity the state that jails its writers..."). Artists must not have their freedom curbed. The Indian State has already erred by persecuting MF Husain. The Shiv Sena is running a pointless campaign against Rohinton Mistry. So, why add a Booker Prize winner to the list?

The problem with this defence is that it casts Roy in the role of Alexander Solzhenitsyn smuggling his manuscript past Soviet censors or Nadine Gordimer battling the apartheid regime to get her fiction out.

In fact, the truth is that when she made those statements, Roy was functioning not as an artist but as a political activist. Those political activists who have written novels cannot claim greater freedom than other political activists with no best-selling fiction to their names. Political statements made in a political context must be judged on a political basis. Artistic freedom does not enter into it.

So, to return to the big question, what should the government do?

It is instructive to examine the experience of other liberal societies faced with apparently seditious statements made by photogenic celebrities. During the Vietnam War, the actress Jane Fonda visited North Vietnam, a country with which the US was at war. During her widely-publicised visit, she expressed her support for the struggle of the Vietnamese people, condemned the role of the US and even went on Vietnamese radio to ask US pilots to stop bombing Vietnam.

Or take the case of the British actress, Vanessa Redgrave, who took time off from her generalised condemnations of corporate-dominated, poor-exploiting, British society to campaign against British forces when they were battling the terrorist IRA.

In both cases, there was widespread public outrage accompanied by demands for their arrest and cries of 'treason' and 'sedition'.

And yet, how do you suppose the US and UK responded? Britain was run by a Conservative government and the majority of Conservative party members clearly wanted Redgrave locked up. America was run by Richard Nixon, the champion of the so-called Silent Majority.

But in both cases, the governments were content to let the actresses be. The British view was that Redgrave represented a fringe element and that by locking her up, the government would only give more publicity to those it was fighting. In America, the attorney-general said, "Most of us in the Administration shared the view that the damage was slight and the interest in favour of free speech was very high."

One of the FBI agents asked to examine Fonda's case wrote on her file, "There are more dangerous characters around needing our attention...The basis for investigation appears to be — pick someone you dislike and start investigating."

My feeling is that we would do well to follow the example of England and America. It does not matter how we feel about Roy herself. The principle of freedom of expression is far more important than any individual. It is true that free speech can be curtailed on grounds of sedition. But we should restrict such curtailment of freedom of expression to those times when there is a real threat to the unity and integrity of India.

In this case, I would argue, Roy's statements pose no threat to us at all. Some years ago, she wrote a very long article for The Guardian and Outlook, demanding azaadi for Kashmir. The consequences of that article were hardly damaging or dangerous. India did not collapse. Kashmir did not secede. And the piece itself was quickly forgotten.

There is no reason to believe that these statements will have consequences that are any more serious. In fact, they would have faded from the news in hours had the TV channels not continued fuelling public outrage.

Ultimately, we must be guided by the principle followed by the US in the Jane Fonda case. Is the damage to India so great that it justifies curtailing free speech?

Obviously, it isn't. No violence followed her statements and nor did she incite it. Moreover, there will still be an India with Kashmir as an integral part of it long after Roy herself is forgotten.

So, let's just cool down. We have a perfect right to dislike Roy. We are entirely justified in being angered by her statements. But the moment we compromise on the principles that make us a liberal society —especially when her remarks pose no real threat to us at all — we start playing her game.

We become the repressive, authoritarian society she suggests we already are.

 

[DEXTOR]

I was expecting a saner reply, yeah hard to come buy when one is surrounded by insane, unbalanced traditional mind set, Kashmir is for people of Kashmir whats lady ghandi said is irrelevant.

its just like when you were failed to pass your fifth grade exams because you came here all blazing, waving saffron flag hoping to get an award of bravery on "word war" congress could feel happy on this but your parents will defiantly get disappointed as they would have ideally want you to focus more on your studies, pass your high school son...leave these issues for educated people to address, its just too much for may be a fifty year old fifht grade student to think about.

I know reality is hard to digest son and the reply by me was gone straight into your bones, But thats the reality except it or not. so,dont get frustrated and instead of using your brain in these delusional fake commentry, use it somewhere its worth..!

typing a post on a forum with some intellectual words of english dosen't make it "meaningful" My above post just showed you the glimpse of reality which you ppl don't wana accept.! but beleive it or not thats the reality and remains the reality..! so don't waste your energy in arguing for something which you won't get except one way...!

And yeah it is really didnt worth a penny to answer who is living around insane..! whole world knows that...

And yeah what gandhi said is totally relevent and there is no needs of your opinon and neither it worth..!!

Better luck next time........

 

[unicorn148]

one thing is for sure Kashmir is and will remain a Integral part of INDIA
what pressure it has to face it will face and PAKISTAN can do nothing about it because you dont have any power to face us except to train terrorist and send them into India kill the people ........(you feel you have nukes and India cant do anything but if you nuke India u cant aim the whole India but if we have to counter you the whole Pakistan will be out of the map of the world
(I dont hate Pakistan i always want both our countries to be friendly because we have a common history and we fought together for our independence )