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[Hulk]

Without an impartial and neutral entity to properly record everyone's opinion on the issue of plebiscite, how can you argue that only 20% of the residents of IoK, G-B and AK desire a UN held plebiscite?

Agno, for a Plebisite to happen at least 50% should ask for it. It clearly is only restricted to 4 districts in valley so no point.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Agno, for a Plebisite to happen at least 50% should ask for it. It clearly is only restricted to 4 districts in valley so no point.

And how can you determine fairly how many are asking for a plebiscite without an entity like the UN coming in to poll the residents of the entire disputed territories?

You can't expect people to just take India's word for it.

 

[SpArK]

JKNPP to celebrate accession of state to India on Oct 26-27​

PTI | 02:10 PM,Oct 14,2010
Jammu, Oct 14 (PTI) The Jammu and Kashmir National Panthers Party (JKNPP) has today decided to celebrate accession of the state to India in 1947, during the upcoming 63rd anniversary celebrations of the party.

"JKNPP shall celebrate the anniversary on the state's integration with India with great pomp and show in all the 22 districts on October 26, the day Maharaja Hari Singh signed the instrument of accession on October 26, 1947," party Chairman Bhim Singh told reporters here.

He said that on October 27, the party shall organise a historic public meeting in Jammu-the winter capital of the state, where all nationalists and political parties shall be invited. The JKNPP Chairman said that the party has appealed to all the political parties, social organisations, NGOs and the educational institutions to take out victory rallies with the tricolour flags to show that Jammu and Kashmir is an "inseparable and integral part" of India.

Asserting that the finality of accession with India cannot be challenged, Singh quoted Article 3 of the state Constitution which says "Jammu and Kashmir is and shall remain an integral part of India".

Meanwhile, reacting to the appointment of the interlocutors by Centre to carry dialogue process with different groups here, he said "it is only a process of appointing unemployed bureaucrats and media persons, who do not have basic knowledge about geography and history of greater Jammu and Kashmir." PTI MKB DK

JKNPP to celebrate accession of state to India on Oct 26-27, IBN Live News

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

A plebiscite would involve all residents of the former Princely State of J&K, so it is rather absurd to argue that the residents of the Kashmir valley alone would determine the future of the disputed territory.

Exactly!

Jammu and Kashmir is not all about what Kashmiri Muslims want and if we look at all the different groups living in Jammu and Kashmir..you will se that only Kashmiri Muslims have a problem with India.

So azadi and giving the whole state to Pakistan just to please Kashmiri Muslims is not whats going to happen.

Jammu and Leh Ladakh region are pro India and you will hardlly see "any" protest against Indian rule.

Infact people from Jammu wanted to remove article 370 or "special status" given to us by the Indian govt. and want to be treated like normal Indians.

Talking of Kashmir also...Hindus and Sikhs are also a part of Kashmir..so dont forget them.

Overall..if at all voting happens...i dont see Pakistan winning by any chance.

Majority is certainly with India in the state of Jammu and Kashmir...and Jammu and Kashmir is not a cake that you can cut the piece out with the most reddish cherry and have it...if you know what i mean.

 

[Hulk]

And how can you determine fairly how many are asking for a plebiscite without an entity like the UN coming in to poll the residents of the entire disputed territories?

You can't expect people to just take India's word for it.

Simple look at the pockets where people are demanding it. There is zero demand from Jammu and Leh
Not heard from China and Pakistan either.

 

[Omar1984]

He said that on October 27, the party shall organise a historic public meeting in Jammu-the winter capital of the state, where all nationalists and political parties shall be invited.

I thought the winter capital of India Occupied Jammu and Kashmir was Srinagar.

Oh thats right, JKNPP would never go to Kashmir Valley and face this crowd:

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I thought the winter capital of India Occupied Jammu and Kashmir was Srinagar.

Oh thats right, JKNPP would never go to Kashmir Valley and face this crowd:


YouTube - "Pakistan ka matlab kya : La ilaha illa Allah" say a million Kashmiris in India Occupied Kashmir

Jammu is the winter capital.

Tell me....would PDP and JKLF come in Jammu and hoist the Pakistani flag??

During Amarnath protests Kashmiri leaders were not allowed to enter the Jammu city.

Dont think everyone in Jammu and Kashmir thinks the way Kashmiri Muslims do.

BTW...Bhim Singh the leader from Panthers party is a great guy and is respected so much in Jammu.

 

[Omar1984]

Jammu is the winter capital.

Tell me....would PDP and JKLF come in Jammu and host the Pakistani flag??

During Amarnath protests Kashmiri leaders were not allowed to enter the Jammu city.

Dont think everyone in Jammu and Kashmir thinks the way Kashmiri Muslims do.

BTW...Bhim Singh the leader from Panthers party is a great guy and is resected so much in Jammu.

No wonder JKNPP would go to Jammu to celebrate, Jammu is hindu majority while Kashmir is Muslim majority. JKNPP would never dare go to Kashmir Valley for their celebration:


---------------Population% Muslim % Hindu % Sikh % Buddhist/Other
Kashmir (53.9%) 5,476,970 97.16% 1.84% 0.88% 0.11%
Jammu (43.7%) 4,430,191 30.69% 65.23% 3.57% 0.51%


Jammu and Kashmir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Good that New Delhi realised that we(Jammuites) are also from J&K.

Every time funds are allocated to the state the kashmiri leaders spend most of the amount on kashmiris and forget about Jammu and Ladakh region.

Hopefully now this wont happen after this step being taken.

 

[Hulk]

Just proves that not all Kashmiri's wants to break from India.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

No wonder JKNPP would go to Jammu to celebrate, Jammu is hindu majority while Kashmir is Muslim majority. JKNPP would never dare go to Kashmir Valley for their celebration:


---------------Population% Muslim % Hindu % Sikh % Buddhist/Other
Kashmir (53.9%) 5,476,970 97.16% 1.84% 0.88% 0.11%
Jammu (43.7%) 4,430,191 30.69% 65.23% 3.57% 0.51%


Jammu and Kashmir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JKNPP doesnt need to go to Jammu..it is already present there.

Its not about Hindu-Muslim...Muslims from Jammu region are also large in number but you wont see them protesting against Indian rule.

Kashmir also belongs to those refugees who live in tents in Jammu.

Kashmir also belongs to those Sikhs who dont have a problem with Indian rule.

 

[Omar1984]

Troops martyr three more innocent youth in occupied Kashmir
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Srinagar, October 14 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, Indian troops, in their fresh act of state terrorism, martyred three youth in Shopian district today.

During siege and search operations Indian Army’s 53 Rashtriya Rifles, 44 Rashtriya Rifles and Special Operations Group personnel killed the youth, identified as Shabbir Ahmad, Arif Ahmad and Jan Khan at Chewan in Keller area of the district.

 

[Hulk]

No wonder JKNPP would go to Jammu to celebrate, Jammu is hindu majority while Kashmir is Muslim majority. JKNPP would never dare go to Kashmir Valley for their celebration:


---------------Population% Muslim % Hindu % Sikh % Buddhist/Other
Kashmir (53.9%) 5,476,970 97.16% 1.84% 0.88% 0.11%
Jammu (43.7%) 4,430,191 30.69% 65.23% 3.57% 0.51%


Jammu and Kashmir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reverse is true too.

 

[Hulk]

Troops martyr three more innocent youth in occupied Kashmir
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Srinagar, October 14 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, Indian troops, in their fresh act of state terrorism, martyred three youth in Shopian district today.

During siege and search operations Indian Army’s 53 Rashtriya Rifles, 44 Rashtriya Rifles and Special Operations Group personnel killed the youth, identified as Shabbir Ahmad, Arif Ahmad and Jan Khan at Chewan in Keller area of the district.

Good job RR, congratulations, people of Shopian are good for nothing.

 

[Hyde]

Teachers, students tortured in IHK​

Updated at: 1055 PST, Thursday, October 14, 2010
Teachers, students tortured in IHK SRINAGAR: In occupied Kashmir, dozens of people including schoolchildren and government teachers were injured after troopers opened fire and assaulted them in Baramulla district. At least 25 schoolchildren and teachers were injured after being assaulted by Border Security Force (BSF) personnel at Sangrama on Baramulla–Srinagar highway.

The BSF convoy barged into Government Middle School, Sangarama, which was provided cover by the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), eyewitnesses told media men. The troops abused, misbehaved and thrashed the teachers, including female staff. The troops did not even spare small schoolchildren, as young as six. At least 20 students and five teachers were injured in the troopers’ action, eyewitnesses added.

Some of the injured schoolchildren have been identified as Shagufta Amin, Masrat Bashir, Sehreena Amin, all 7th class students, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Ashraf Malik, 8th standard students, Asmat Rashid, 6th standard, Nausheen Akhter and Nilofer Amin, 4th class, Muzammil and Tanveer Nabi, 3rd standard and Kounsar Gulzar, a first standard student.

“The children were attending the classes, when the BSF men stormed the school and thrashed the teachers without any reason or rhyme. They even beat female teachers, including me,” Headmistress, GMS, Sangrama, Kounsar Jabeen told media men. “The ruckus continued for at least 15 minutes. We urged them not to harm the small children, but they didn’t listen to us,” she added.

When the news of beating of students and teachers spread, hundreds of men, women and children, including the family members of the schoolchildren took to streets and staged pro-freedom and anti-India demonstrations in the area. They chanted slogan like “We want freedom” and “Go India go.”

On the other hand, about a dozen people including 18-year-old Ashiq Hussain Lone were injured when troopers of 32 Rashtriya Rifles opened fire and used brute force against peaceful protestors at Nadihal in Rafiabad area of Baramulla.

Meanwhile, several other persons were also injured in police and CRPF actions against peaceful protestors in Batamaloo, Rainawari and in Baramulla town.