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[Omar1984]

Also google Jammu Kashmir Light Infantry. This regiment was formed as a result of the the local J&K militia that fought against the tribal invaders.


J&K Light Infantry celebrates Diamond jubilee, reunion - Express India

EXPRESS INDIA????? Bring a neutral source with proof.

 

[EjazR]

Again, where in these refrences does it say Pakistani Pakhtuns from tribal areas killed and raped Kashmiris.

Again, theres no proof unless you can bring a valid and neutral source.

Did you read the book? The authors are all Pakistani or British. The statements made in the speech are based on these historical records.

It is documented by local Kashmiris as well as British personnel who were there. The book Shadow War by a Pakistani author Arif Jamal also mentions how Missionary workers were killed and nuns raped quoting documents of that time.


And during partition there was mob violence were both sides were killing the others. The situation was no different for Hindus and Sikhs living on what is now Pakistan. Non-muslims from Gilgit Baltistan and Mirpur and Muzaffarabad were forced and had to migrate towards the Indian side. Punjab was similarly religiously altered on both sides.


Neither the Indian nor the Pakistani state was involved in this massacre. However, the invasion of tirbals and later Pakistani forces was state policy. Just like raising the J&K militia by Sheikh Abdulla and sending the sikh regiment by the Indian state was state policy.

 

[Areesh]

yes we all know ure a mixed breed.
what r u making so much noise about ?

According to you bharatis our ancestors were Bharati. Now you are accusing me of mix breed. So you want to say Bharatis are a mix breed?



@foottmarks

Hey footmark why you edited your post buddy. Was it exposing your so called secularism.

 

[RamGorur]

Again, where in these refrences does it say Pakistani Pakhtuns from tribal areas killed and raped Kashmiris.

Again, theres no proof unless you can bring a valid and neutral source.

"Baramula, India, 10th November -The City had been stripped of its wealth and young women before the tribesmen fled in terror at midnight, Friday, before the advancing Indian Army. Surviving residents estimate that 3,000 of their fellow townsmen, including four Europeans and a retired British Army Officer, known only as Colonel Dykes, and his pregnant wife, were slain. When the raiders rushed into town on 26th October, witnesses said: 'One party of Masud tribesmen immediately scaled the walls of Saint Joseph's Franciscan Convent compound, and stormed the Convent Hospital and the little church. Four nuns and Colonel Dykes and his wife were shot immediately. The Raiders' greed triumphed over their blood lust'. A former town official said: 'The raiders forced 350 local Hindus into a house, with the intention of burning it down. The group of 100 raiders is said to be holding another five, as hostages, on a high mountain, barely visible from the town. Toda, twenty-four hours after the Indian army entered Baramula, only 1,000 were left of a normal population of about 14,000."

- Robert Trumbull, NYT, 10/11/1947.

Neutral enough?

 

[GFM_EhsanUlHaq]

War is not the solution of Kashmir problem my dear

 

[GFM_EhsanUlHaq]

India should fullfil her words about Kashmir refrendum back in 1950s

 

[SpArK]

India is lying about Kashmir, Pak tells UN​

New York: In a rare action, Pakistan accused External Affairs Minister S M Krishna of making a 'self-serving claim' at the United Nations General Assembly about Jammu and Kashmir being an integral part of the country.

While exercising its right of reply, Pakistan also lambasted the minister's statement about India's credentials of a democratic and pluralistic society and its aspiration to become a permanent member of the UN Security Council.

India is lying about Kashmir, Pak tells UN

In a statement late on Wednesday evening, Ambassador Amjad Hussain B Sial, deputy permanent representative of Pakistan, said at the UNGA that Krishna's statement was 'far from truth and reality.'

In his address at the UNGA, Krishna had said that Islamabad should fulfill its 'solemn commitment' of not allowing its territory to be used for terrorism directed against India, particularly against Jammu and Kashmir, which is 'an integral part of India'.

Sial claimed that Jammu and Kashmir is an internationally recognised disputed territory and the United Nations has passed more than a dozen resolutions calling for a settlement of the dispute through a free and fair plebiscite under the auspices of the UN. Numerous undertakings and statements made solemnly by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru are on record testifying the fact, he said.

"It is amazing that a country that continues to violate several UN resolutions, including those of the Security Council, and fails to fulfill the commitments made by its leaders, both to the international community as well as the people of Indian occupied Kashmir, has the audacity not only to claim democratic and pluralistic credentials but also aspires to become a permanent member of the Security Council," he said.

Reacting to Krishna's assertion that Pakistan cannot 'lecture India' on human rights and democracy, Sial said that Pakistan has only echoed in its statements what has been said and reported by international and Indian NGOs and the media about the brutal human rights violations of Kashmiris.

"If it pains India to listen to the truth from Pakistan, I can quote a number of statements made by the international community as well as by well-reputed international and Indian NGOs, which have expressed similar serious concerns," Sial said.

India hit back by telling the UNGA that violence in Jammu and Kashmir has been "fuelled over the past decades by external forces which do not want peace and progress in our region."

"This is a well-known fact. The Indian Constitution guarantees the fundamental rights of all our people, including our brethren in Jammu and Kashmir, which is an integral part of India. Free and fair elections in Jammu and Kashmir have been regularly held and the people of Jammu and Kashmir have exercised their right to franchise to elect their representatives," India said.

In response to Pakistan's right of reply, India said Islamabad's remarks were uncalled for.

"Rather than making unsolicited remarks about the internal affairs of others, Pakistan should seriously concentrate on addressing the enormous challenges confronting it -- terrorism, extremism and sectarianism, to name a few and the dismantling of the terrorist infrastructure that exists on territory under its control," India said.

"We reject all untenable and unsolicited remarks from the distinguished delegate of Pakistan," India said exercising its second right of reply.


India is lying about Kashmir, Pak tells UN

 

[Rafael]

"It is amazing that a country that continues to violate several UN resolutions, including those of the Security Council, and fails to fulfill the commitments made by its leaders, both to the international community as well as the people of Indian occupied Kashmir, has the audacity not only to claim democratic and pluralistic credentials but also aspires to become a permanent member of the Security Council," he said.



Nailed it!!

 

[Rafael]

By the way, why did you put :thumbs down: with it?? Is it an Indian forum?

 

[SpArK]

By the way, why did you put :thumbs down: with it?? Is it an Indian forum?

Check for ur self if in doubt.

 

[Areesh]

Check for ur self if in doubt.

You did something very dumb.

 

[Rafael]

Check for ur self if in doubt.

I request the mods to change that thing! This is a Pakistani forum and we cannot have an Indian telling us what to put and when to put in pro-Pakistan threads!

 

[GFM_EhsanUlHaq]

War is not the solution to Kashmir problem
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[Ganga]

One thing every one here must realize is that the world is not interested in Kashmir.It will continue being an integral part of India no matter what.

 

[Ganguly]

Remember an ancient Roman proverb. "It is best to profit by the madness of others". This type of non-sense statements will help India diplomatically. It will dilute the entire current challenges of Indian Kashmir. Sensible members of UN wont value these ill-logical statements, especially when in comes from Pakistan.