Kashmir hunger strikers slam India plan for Hindu colonies

[ashok mourya]

For the benefit and salvation of the kashmiri kaum

There are not millions of pandits, they betrayed kashmiris once and they gave up their right to be called kashmiri

Pakistan freed a big chunk of kashmir its up to the kashmiris under indian occupation to increase the Kashmiri kaum to destroy the wishes of the hindutva crowd

Remember if India ever looses Kashmir it will be at expense of 18 crore Indian Muslims .No more generosities this time.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

The protest is not about the return of Pandits to the valley. Apparently these hypocrites are protesting their ghettoization and want them to blend with the muslim populace in the valley and spread all over the valley uniformly instead of living seperate quarters in the settlements or the proposed smart cities. I guess the members on this thread did not focus on this point. It seems that under Indian influence even the Hurriat people have turned secular!!! That's the reason why Swami Agnivesh joined in otherwise he would not have done it.

Do u think Pandits will live again with the same neigbhbours who abondoned them/??

So if a same situation arises in the future, the 1990 can repeat. This is a clever move.

 

[DARIUS]

Do u think Pandits will live again with the same neigbhbours who abondoned them/??

So if a same situation arises in the future, the 1990 can repeat. This is a clever move.

Pandits have already read into the designs of these seperatists as they they read into into in the 89-90 period. I am pretty sure that the bjp is going to go ahead with the plan of building these townships in srinagar and other places,although initially I thought it was just lip service,foing by the latest developments my doubts have been mitigated. That's probably one of the reasons that eminent Pandits like Mr. Anupam Kher are fiercely supporting the move.

 

[hussain0216]

Remember if India ever looses Kashmir it will be at expense of 18 crore Indian Muslims .No more generosities this time.

The 18 crore indian muslims will carve another state out of india if they cant live in peace due to the actions of extremist hindus

 

[anonymus]

The 18 crore indian muslims will carve another state out of india if they cant live in peace due to the actions of extremist hindus

Those 18 Crore would become fertilizer in a week, if they even think of doing do. Unlike Iraq, there are 102 Crore non muslims in India to dispatch those 18 crore virgin lovers to their graves.

 

[alpha q]

I kindly request the IA and J&J police to not to Arrest yasin malik ... let that B@stard die of hunger.... it'll be the one of the best gift India ever gotten

He'll definitely not die of 30 hours hunger strike

 

[hussain0216]

Those 18 Crore would become fertilizer if they even think of doing do. Unlike Iraq, there are 102 Crore non muslims in India to dispatch those virgin lovers to their graves.

Indian muslims are indian

They are in their own homes, thrir own lands, they live, work, pay taxes IN india


If the indian government doesn't serve or protect them and the hindutva crowd wishes to attack then

Then the only option left is a partition of india into two countries one for indian muslims and one for indian hindus

 

[SarthakGanguly]

The 18 crore indian muslims will carve another state out of india if they cant live in peace due to the actions of extremist hindus

A substantial minority (the purer ones) have always tried to carve Islamic states out of un Islamic ones. This is true for any place of the world. There is nothing new in this.

 

[anonymus]

Indian muslims are indian

They are in their own homes, thrir own lands, they live, work, pay taxes IN india


If the indian government doesn't serve or protect them and the hindutva crowd wishes to attack then

Then the only option left is a partition of india into two countries one for indian muslims and one for indian hindus

A nation secede from a state on basis of its strength, not on basis of its wishes. Muslims in India are outnumbered by non-Muslims in ratio of 8:1; have very low representation in Army, Paramilitary, and Police; and do not have temporal majority in any geographical enclave, barring Kashmir.

If they try to secede, they would be butchered by rest of the population like chickens . This is a true fact about how this world works, not emotion driven empty rhetoric. Like Hindus of Pakistan could not demand a separate country, even though Pakistani muslims have launched a rape+genocide campaign against them, Muslims in India could not demand a country. Reason for both is same: Lack of power to get one.

 

[ashok mourya]

Indian muslims are indian

They are in their own homes, thrir own lands, they live, work, pay taxes IN india


If the indian government doesn't serve or protect them and the hindutva crowd wishes to attack then

Then the only option left is a partition of india into two countries one for indian muslims and one for indian hindus

Same applies for kasmiri hindus.If kasmiri muslims cant accept them they have to move to pure land created for them.

 

[alpha q]

Govt of India should construct first smart city in Kashmir for displaced Kashmiri Hindus.

These are the people who gave Kashmiri Hindus 3 choices
Kashmiri Pandits offered three choices by Radical Islamists

On Jan, 04, 1990, a local Urdu newspaper, Aftab, published a press release issued by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, asking all Pandits to leave the Valley immediately. Al Safa, another local daily repeated the warning.These warnings were followed by Kalashnikov-wielding masked Jehadis carrying out military-type marches openly. Reports of killing of Kashmiri Pandits continued to pour in. Bomb explosions and sporadic firing by militants became a daily occurrence.

Explosive and inflammatory speeches being broadcast from the public address systems of the mosques became frequent. Thousands of audio cassettes, carrying similar propaganda, were played at numerous places in the Valley, in order to instill fear into the already terrified Kashmiri Pandit community. Recalling these events, the former Director General of Jammu and Kashmir Police, Shri M M Khajooria says, “The mischief of the summer of 1989 started with serving notice to the prominent members of the minority community to quit Kashmir.

The letter said, ‘We order you to leave Kashmir immediately, otherwise your children will be harmed- we are not scaring you but this land is only for Muslims, and is the land of Allah. Sikhs and Hindus cannot stay here’. The threatening note ended with a warning, ‘If you do not obey, we will start with your children. Kashmir Liberation, Zindabad.”1

These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad.

They signaled the implementation of their intentions quite blatantly. M. L. Bhan of Khonmoh, Srinagar, a government employee, was killed on Jan 15, 1990. Baldev Raj Dutta, an operator in Lal chowk, Srinagar, was kidnapped on the same day. His dead body was found four days later, on Jan 19, 1990, at Nai Sarak, Srinagar.The body bore tell-tale marks of brutal torture.

Night of Jan, 19, 1990

The night witnessed macabre happenings, the like of which had not been witnessed by Kashmiri Pandits after the Afghan rule.Those that experienced the fear of that night are unlikely to forget it in their life time. For future generations, it will be a constant reminder of the brutality of Islamic radicals, who had chosen the timing very carefully. “Farooq Abdullah, whose government had all but seized to exist, resigned. Jagmohan arrived during the day to take charge as the Governor of the State.”2 He took over the charge of the Governor just the previous night at Jammu.He had made efforts to reach Srinagar during the previous day, but the plane had to return to Jammu from Pir Panjal Pass, due to extremely bad weather. Though curfew was imposed to restore some semblance of order, it had little effect. The mosque pulpits continued to be used to exhort people to defy curfew and join Jehad against the Pandits, while armed cadres of JKLF marched through the streets of the Valley, terrorizing them no end.

As the night fell, the microscopic community became panic-stricken when the Valley began reverberating with the war-cries of Islamists, who had stage-managed the whole event with great care; choosing its timing and the slogans to be used. A host of highly provocative, communal and threatening slogans, interspersed with martial songs, incited the Muslims to come out on the streets and break the chains of ‘slavery’. These exhortations urged the faithful to give a final push to the Kafir in order to ring in the true Islamic order. These slogans were mixed with precise and unambiguous threats to Pandits.They were presented with three choices — Ralive, Tsaliv ya Galive (convert to Islam, leave the place or prish). Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims poured into the streets of the Valley, shouting ‘death to India’ and death to Kafirs.

These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad. All male Muslims, including their children and the aged, wanted to be seen to be participating in this Jehad.Those who had organized such a show of force in the middle of a cold winter night, had only one objective; to put the fear of death into the hearts of the already frightened Pandits. In this moment of collective hysteria, gone was the facade of secular, tolerant, cultured, peaceful and educated outlook of Kashmiri Muslims, which the Indian intelligentsia and the liberal media had made them to wear for their own reasons.

Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were.

Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were. This frenzied mass hysteria went on till Kashmiri Pandits’ despondency turned into desperation, as the night wore itself out.

For the first time after independence of India from the British rule, Kashmiri Pandits found themselves abandoned to their fate, stranded in their own homes, encircled by rampaging mobs.Through the frenzied shouts and blood-curdling sloganeering of the assembled mobs, Pandits saw the true face of intolerant and radical Islam. It represented the complete antithesis of the over-rated ethos of Kashmiriyat that was supposed to define Kashmiri ethos.

The pusillanimous Central Government was caught napping and its agencies in the State, particularly the army and other para military forces, did not consider it necessary to intervene, in the absence of any orders. The State Government had been so extensively subverted that the skeleton staff of the administration at Srinagar (the winter capital of the State had shifted to Jammu in November 1989) decided not to confront the huge mobs. Delhi was too far away, anyway.

Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them.

Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them. The pleadings for help were incessant. But not a soldier came to their rescue. Therefore, Kashmiri Pandits found best protection in huddling together indoors, frozen with fear, praying for the night to pass. The foreboding of the impending doom was too over-powering to let them have even a wink of sleep.

The Pandits could see the writing on the wall. If they were lucky enough to see the night through, they would have to vacate the place before they met the same fate as Tikka Lal Taploo and many others. The Seventh Exodus was surely staring them in the face. By morning, it became apparent to Pandits that Kashmiri Muslims had decided to throw them out from the Valley. Broadcasting vicious Jehadi sermons and revolutionary songs, interspersed with blood curdling shouts and shrieks, threatening Kashmiri Pandits with dire consequences, became a routine ‘Mantra’ of the Muslims of the Valley, to force them to flee from Kashmir. Some of the slogans used were:

“Zalimo, O Kafiro, Kashmir harmara chod do”.

(O! Merciless, O! Kafirs leave our Kashmir)

“Kashmir mein agar rehna hai, Allah-ho-Akbar kahna hoga”

(Any one wanting to live in Kashmir will have to convert to Islam)

La Sharqia la gharbia, Islamia! Islamia!

From East to West, there will be only Islam

“Musalmano jago, Kafiro bhago”,

(O! Muslims, Arise, O! Kafirs, scoot)

“Islam hamara maqsad hai, Quran hamara dastur hai, jehad hamara Rasta hai”

(Islam is our objective, Q’uran is our constitution, Jehad is our way of our life)

“Kashmir banega Pakistan”

(Kashmir will become Pakistan)

“Kashir banawon Pakistan, Bataw varaie, Batneiw saan”

(We will turn Kashmir into Pakistan alongwith Kashmiri Pandit women, but without their men folk)

“Pakistan se kya Rishta? La Ilah-e- Illalah”

(Islam defines our relationship with Pakistan)

Dil mein rakho Allah ka khauf; Hath mein rakho Kalashnikov.

(With fear of Allah ruling your hearts, wield a Kalashnikov)

“Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e- Mustafa”

(We want to be ruled under Shari’ah)

“People’s League ka kya paigam, Fateh, Azadi aur Islam”

(“What is the message of People’s League? Victory, Freedom and Islam.”)

Wall posters in fairly large letters, proclaiming Kashmir as ‘Islamic Republic of Kashmir’, became a common sight in the entir Valley. So were the big and prominent advertisements in local dailies, proclaiming their intent:

‘Aim of the present struggle is the supremacy of Islam in Kashmir, in all walks of life and nothing else. Any one who puts a hurdle in our way will be annihilated’.

Press release of Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) published in the morning edition of Urdu Daily ‘Aftab’ of April, 01, 1990.

‘Kashmiri Pandits responsible for duress against Muslims should leave the Valley within two days’.

Head lines of Urdu Daily, Al Safa, of April, 14, 1990.

‘With Kalashnikov in one hand and Quran in the other the Mujahids would openly roam the streets singing the Tarana-e- Kashmir.’

These people dont deserve to be treated human, just throw them out of India

 

[ashok mourya]

These people dont deserve to be treated human, just throw them out of India

Jab tak apne gharme jaichand hai (so called secularist,civil societies) its difficult friends.If Pakistan can take action against MQM,Lal masjid,TTP why cant we act against huriyat and separists.Just remove there govt provided security cover they will killed by there ummah next day.

 

[alpha q]

So now these ethnic cleansing terrorists are on hunger strike against their victims getting some measure of justice. Wonderful!

Next in programming, we have:

• ISIS going on a hunger strike when Yazidis start returning to their homes
• Boko Haram going on hunger strike to protest against efforts to rescue kidnapped schoolgirls
• Retired Pakistani generals going on hunger strike to protest against trials of war criminals in Bangladesh

Hypocrisy runs deep in this one.

I dont understand why our govt is tolerating these scums, what could human rights watcher do if these scums are killed once n for all

 

[anonymus]

Jab tak apne gharme jaichand hai (so called secularist,civil societies) its difficult friends.If Pakistan can take action against MQM,Lal masjid,TTP why cant we act against huriyat and separists.Just remove there govt provided security cover they will killed by there ummah next day.

Jaichand has been falsely lampooned in that libelous Bardic tale "Prithviraj Raso" which some Indians consider to be an "Authentic historical document".

Prithviraj Vijay written by Jayanak( a Kashmiri brahmin living in Ajaymerunagar, now called as Ajmer) in around 1180s is much reliable and contradicts Raso at every point.

1. There was no war between Gahadvals and Chauhans, no inscription or text mentions such things, raso has invented it.

2. No evidence for fictional Sanyogita at all in Prithviraj Vijay.

3. No evidence from islamic sources that they were helped by any Hindu ruler,now counter point can be made that they did not want to show that they won by help of Hindus but we know that they have mentioned such cases many times. Also, burden of proof is on Chauhan being hero side when all contemporary texts from islamic to rajput contradict Raso, unless some very strong evidence is found, this is almost impossible.

4. we have an account in another contemporary text which shows how ministers of Jaichand were concerned after defeat of Prithviraj Chauhan at second battle of Tarain, they were clear that since door is open, storm will now enter their rooms.

5. Jaichand was not sympathetic to Muslims/Turks. His father has imposed a tax, turushkadanda, on them after he defeated them in battle and he continued it.


Detailed information about this dynasty is in this thread, if anyone is interested.

Gahadvala dynasty - Gangetic plains c.12th century - Historum - History Forums

 

[KIND]

Hey can we organize a feast there with biriyani , gostaba , rogan josh , pulao , kalia , kurma .... It wont hurt anybody ...