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Kashmir hunger strikers slam India plan for Hindu colonies

A nation secede from a state on basis of its strength, not on basis of its wishes. Muslims in India are outnumbered by non-Muslims in ratio of 8:1; have very low representation in Army, Paramilitary, and Police; and do not have temporal majority in any geographical enclave, barring Kashmir.

If they try to secede, they would be butchered by rest of the population like chickens . This is a true fact about how this world works, not emotion driven empty rhetoric. Like Hindus of Pakistan could not demand a separate country, even though Pakistani muslims have launched a rape+genocide campaign against them, Muslims in India could not demand a country. Reason for both is same: Lack of power to get one.

This isnt any minority its 200 million people currently which will rise even further

India also isnt an island where it thinks mass slaughter of indian muslims will not warrant a response from muslims internationally


With between 200 million and 300 million muslims under threat in india steps will be taken to unify and defend themselves these arent hindus who will just be lambs to the slaughter

If the minority is small you can get away with it, when it consists of hindreds of millions of people then partition is the only path
 
This isnt any minority its 200 million people currently which will rise even further

India also isnt an island where it thinks mass slaughter of indian muslims will not warrant a response from muslims internationally


With between 200 million and 300 million muslims under threat in india steps will be taken to unify and defend themselves these arent hindus who will just be lambs to the slaughter

If the minority is small you can get away with it, when it consists of hindreds of millions of people then partition is the only path
You and your wet dreams of islamic bhiradari!!!! God help you people. BTW Indian muslims other than the Hurriat people have no plan to secede ad of now. Now go home and jerk off to calm your nerves. As far as Islamic intervention militarily in India is concerned I would only like to state that if the Arabs need the help of a looser failed state loke Pakistan to rid themselves of a regional disturbance. I could just laugh at your suggestion that they would mess wiyh India at any point of time.
 
Kashmirs should pickup the suicide bombing technology in masses.
 
This isnt any minority its 200 million people currently which will rise even further

India also isnt an island where it thinks mass slaughter of indian muslims will not warrant a response from muslims internationally


With between 200 million and 300 million muslims under threat in india steps will be taken to unify and defend themselves these arent hindus who will just be lambs to the slaughter

If the minority is small you can get away with it, when it consists of hindreds of millions of people then partition is the only path


180 million out of 1300 million is a minority. And those 180 million are not concentrated in one place where they could provide any coherent resistance. They are dispersed all over India.

If Muslims in India demand a different country, they could be dispatched to their virgins in matter of weeks. Punjab, Himanchal, and Haryana state of India is an example of that. Muslims in these state constituted 30% of population in 1947. When Punjab got divided, muslims were cleansed so thoroughly from these states that Muslims form less than 1% of population in these states today.

And this is just one method of doing it. Muslims could simply be stripped of their citizenship and expelled, if they try that stunt of demanding a separate country.

It is not that I am advocating massacre.Though I see Islam as a barbaric, fatalist, backward ideology;unlike many of this forum; I am not alarmed with Islam in India. Whatever Muslims do, they cannot reach even 20% of Indian population even by the end of this century.

What I am stating is cold fact. If a group (in this case Muslims) demand a separate country, when they are not in a position to get one, only thing they get is a shallow mass grave. You seem to be retarded enough not to understand this simple fact.

Also India is practically an Island as strength of Indian military force (which has very little muslim representation) make it impossible for any country to invade it, let alone chronic losers like muslims of OIC.
 
This isnt any minority its 200 million people currently which will rise even further

India also isnt an island where it thinks mass slaughter of indian muslims will not warrant a response from muslims internationally


With between 200 million and 300 million muslims under threat in india steps will be taken to unify and defend themselves these arent hindus who will just be lambs to the slaughter

If the minority is small you can get away with it, when it consists of hindreds of millions of people then partition is the only path
Percentage of Muslims in India grew by just 0.8 in last decade: What are political parties fussing over?
 
180 million out of 1300 million is a minority. And those 180 million are not concentrated in one place where they could provide any coherent resistance. They are dispersed all over India.

If Muslims in India demand a different country, they could be dispatched to their virgins in matter of weeks. Punjab, Himanchal, and Haryana state of India is an example of that. Muslims in these state constituted 30% of population in 1947. When Punjab got divided, muslims were cleansed so thoroughly from these states that Muslims form less than 1% of population in these states today.

And this is just one method of doing it. Muslims could simply be stripped of their citizenship and expelled, if they try that stunt of demanding a separate country.

It is not that I am advocating massacre.Though I see Islam as a barbaric, fatalist, backward ideology;unlike many of this forum; I am not alarmed with Islam in India. Whatever Muslims do, they cannot reach even 20% of Indian population even by the end of this century.

What I am stating is cold fact. If a group (in this case Muslims) demand a separate country, when they are not in a position to get one, only thing they get is a shallow mass grave. You seem to be retarded enough not to understand this simple fact.

Also India is practically an Island as strength of Indian military force (which has very little muslim representation) make it impossible for any country to invade it, let alone chronic losers like muslims of OIC.


Wrong 180 million today (200-300million tomorrow) is a significant mass of humanity

A mass of humanity able to fight to protect their families, a mass of humanity able to kill its foes

There comes a point when population of a minority becomes so large that even though its a minority the sheer weight of numbers mean that they can push for their rights and fight to defend themselves


A small minority can be slaughtered outright


180 million isnt small it is massive; if indian hindus and indian muslims cant live together then partition of india becomes the only option



The muslim world is massive and growing, it has destroyed many nations and empires thst stood before it, it is growing and will rise again to become a power. It has more landmass, more people & more resources then you

Your oil, gas, people work in muslim lands

And most importantly you have a 200 million strong pakistan with 200 nuclear war heads pointed at you


Your little wet dream of attacking indian muslims will be our que to break india
 
India should start experimenting the Israeli and Chinese models. Israelis using Land and walled cities in Palestinian lands...China using the migration influx of HAN Chinese in Tibet, slowing creating business and jobs and encouraging HAN Chinese quantity. The best way India can KILL this whole drama is by having 50% or more than 50% HINDUS in Kashmir.... it will take 20-25 years, no problem. But at least we will be strong position, Like China is in TIBET today... my 2 cents
 
Wrong 180 million today (200-300million tomorrow) is a significant mass of humanity

A mass of humanity able to fight to protect their families, a mass of humanity able to kill its foes

There comes a point when population of a minority becomes so large that even though its a minority the sheer weight of numbers mean that they can push for their rights and fight to defend themselves


A small minority can be slaughtered outright


180 million isnt small it is massive; if indian hindus and indian muslims cant live together then partition of india becomes the only option

Retarded Muzzie,

1100 million >> 180 million

Weight of 1100 million would always be greater than that of 180 million.

And no resistance could be offered unless you are concentrated. The only reason you got Pakistan was that an ungodly mass of you people were concentrated in a limited geographic area.

The muslim world is massive and growing, it has destroyed many nations and empires thst stood before it, it is growing and will rise again to become a power. It has more landmass, more people & more resources then you

Your oil, gas, people work in muslim lands

Useless Braindead rants like ever. World is not a democracy ,else West would not be calling shots.

Today, Power comes from innovation,not numbers, which your civilization is incapable of.

You people could not get better of Israel in age of Oil. What would you do when it runs out ,or alternative energy gets cheaper (in nearly 20 years), After that you would have your sand and camels, nothing else.

And most importantly you have a 200 million strong pakistan with 200 nuclear war heads pointed at you

And India has better nukes in larger numbers ,and growing too. and in a decade would be enough to wipe off your Ummah.

"We have Nukes: threat works against only those country which does not have nukes for themselves.



Your little wet dream of attacking indian muslims will be our que to break india

What wet dreams??

Primitive stone age behaviour of your kind is just an annoyance to me, not a cause of alarm.

I was trying to explain to your single neuron brain that your "Islamic Logic" that muslims could divide a country even when they are outnumbered 8:1 , outgunned, and dispersed all over a subcontinent is stupid to say the least.

If they try, they are fertilizer.It is same for any minority,anywhere which does not have its own enclave.
 
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Retarded Muzzie,

1100 million >> 180 million

Weight of 1100 million would always be greater than that of 180 million.

And no resistance could be offered unless you are concentrated. The only reason you got Pakistan was that an ungodly mass of you people were concentrated in a limited geographic area.



Useless Braindead rants like ever. World is not a democracy ,else West would not be calling shots.

Today, Power comes from innovation,not numbers which your civilization is incapable of.

You people could not get better of Israel in age of Oil. What would you do when it runs out or alternative energy gets cheaper (in nearly 20 years), After that you would have your sand and camels, nothing else.



And India has better nukes in larger numbers and growing too. and in a decade would be enough to wipe off your Ummah.

"We have Nukes: threat works against only those country which does not have nukes by themselves.





What wet dreams??

Primitive stone age behaviour of your kind is just an annoyance to me, not a cause of alarm.

I was trying to explain to your single neuron brain that your "Islamic Logic" that muslims could divide a country even when they are outnumbered 8:1 , outgunned, and dispersed all over a subcontinent is stupid to say the least.

If they try, they are fertilizer.It is same for any other minority which does not have its own enclave.


Im getting arguments on logic from a idol worshipping pagan

Stick to your lingams or your freak like Gods, any mass of humanity if committed to self preservation can force a outcome


Your idea of skinny black grass eating idolaters going on a yoga rampage againt 200 million muslims with a functional india left in its wake is nonsensical, millions would die on each side but with so much death and destruction it would be inevitable that the world would get involved, with immense animosity and scared psyches a partition and division would be the only outcome


Power comes and goes, its cyclical process

The muslim world with its mass of resources (not just oil and gas) its land and population is a goliath

You hindus were slaves for 1000 years, you have a little economic prosperity and you lose your ducking minds

The indian muslim population is part of a larger mass of muslims which in the near future will grow to be the largest faith in the world

Israel muslim population is now above 20% it hasent had peace for 50 years and day by day its attempts to hold back the tide will grow ever more futile



Pakistan has more nuclear war heads then you, and they are growing faster they will ensure Pakistan can supply indian muslims with the necessary equipment to help them against the hindutva crowd


You planned civil war will help us destroy india
 
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Im getting arguments on logic from a idol worshipping pagan

Stick to your lingams or your freak like Gods, any mass of humanity if committed to self preservation can force a outcome


Your idea of skinny black grass eating idolaters going on a yoga rampage againt 200 million muslims with a functional india left in its wake is nonsensical, millions would die on each side but with so much death and destruction it would be inevitable that the world would get involved, with immense animosity and scared psyches a partition and division would be the only outcome


Power comes and goes, its cyclical process

The muslim world with its mass of resources (not just oil and gas) its land and population is a goliath

You hindus were slaves for 1000 years, you have a little economic prosperity and you lose your ducking minds

The indian muslim population is part of a larger mass of muslims which in the near future will grow to be the largest faith in the world

Israel muslim population is now above 20% it hasent had peace for 50 years and day by day its attempts to hold back the tide will grow ever more futile



Pakistan has more nuclear war heads then you, and they are growing faster they will ensure Pakistan can supply indian muslims with the necessary equipment to help them against the hindutva crowd


You planned civil war will help us destroy india
Ghar jaake zara so le !!! Dimag thikane aa jayega. Indian Muslims are well integrated with their country. No need to worry about them. Apne mulk ka ek tukda gawa ke bhi itni badi badi batein kaise kar leta hai???
 
He further insisted that Kashmiri Hindus are welcome to return and “live here with their Kashmiri Muslim brothers."

How nice of Mr Malik to say that! :rolleyes:

He wants pundits to come live amongst the same people who drove them out...the same people who wants them dead. We should ignore this hunger strike...deal with the protests effectively and go ahead with the resettlement plan.
 
Kashmirs should pickup the suicide bombing technology in masses.

Perhaps you should lead the way by strapping on a suicide vest and starting that kind of jihad in Kashmir? You will become an international hero to all Muslims. A martyr for Kashmir. C'mon, if you really are in Canada, getting a visa to India wouldn't be that difficult. All you have to do is contact some right wing Islamist movement and they will have your vest and dress ready for you when you reach Kashmir

Im getting arguments on logic from a idol worshipping pagan

Stick to your lingams or your freak like Gods, any mass of humanity if committed to self preservation can force a outcome


Your idea of skinny black grass eating idolaters going on a yoga rampage againt 200 million muslims with a functional india left in its wake is nonsensical, millions would die on each side but with so much death and destruction it would be inevitable that the world would get involved, with immense animosity and scared psyches a partition and division would be the only outcome


Power comes and goes, its cyclical process

The muslim world with its mass of resources (not just oil and gas) its land and population is a goliath

You hindus were slaves for 1000 years, you have a little economic prosperity and you lose your ducking minds

The indian muslim population is part of a larger mass of muslims which in the near future will grow to be the largest faith in the world

Israel muslim population is now above 20% it hasent had peace for 50 years and day by day its attempts to hold back the tide will grow ever more futile



Pakistan has more nuclear war heads then you, and they are growing faster they will ensure Pakistan can supply indian muslims with the necessary equipment to help them against the hindutva crowd


You planned civil war will help us destroy india

When you, your country and your Muslim ummah amount to anything, come back and talk. Until then you are simply a ranting desperado on the internet :D
 
Govt of India should construct first smart city in Kashmir for displaced Kashmiri Hindus.

These are the people who gave Kashmiri Hindus 3 choices
Kashmiri Pandits offered three choices by Radical Islamists

On Jan, 04, 1990, a local Urdu newspaper, Aftab, published a press release issued by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, asking all Pandits to leave the Valley immediately. Al Safa, another local daily repeated the warning.These warnings were followed by Kalashnikov-wielding masked Jehadis carrying out military-type marches openly. Reports of killing of Kashmiri Pandits continued to pour in. Bomb explosions and sporadic firing by militants became a daily occurrence.

Explosive and inflammatory speeches being broadcast from the public address systems of the mosques became frequent. Thousands of audio cassettes, carrying similar propaganda, were played at numerous places in the Valley, in order to instill fear into the already terrified Kashmiri Pandit community. Recalling these events, the former Director General of Jammu and Kashmir Police, Shri M M Khajooria says, “The mischief of the summer of 1989 started with serving notice to the prominent members of the minority community to quit Kashmir.

The letter said, ‘We order you to leave Kashmir immediately, otherwise your children will be harmed- we are not scaring you but this land is only for Muslims, and is the land of Allah. Sikhs and Hindus cannot stay here’. The threatening note ended with a warning, ‘If you do not obey, we will start with your children. Kashmir Liberation, Zindabad.”1

These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad.

They signaled the implementation of their intentions quite blatantly. M. L. Bhan of Khonmoh, Srinagar, a government employee, was killed on Jan 15, 1990. Baldev Raj Dutta, an operator in Lal chowk, Srinagar, was kidnapped on the same day. His dead body was found four days later, on Jan 19, 1990, at Nai Sarak, Srinagar.The body bore tell-tale marks of brutal torture.

Night of Jan, 19, 1990

The night witnessed macabre happenings, the like of which had not been witnessed by Kashmiri Pandits after the Afghan rule.Those that experienced the fear of that night are unlikely to forget it in their life time. For future generations, it will be a constant reminder of the brutality of Islamic radicals, who had chosen the timing very carefully. “Farooq Abdullah, whose government had all but seized to exist, resigned. Jagmohan arrived during the day to take charge as the Governor of the State.”2 He took over the charge of the Governor just the previous night at Jammu.He had made efforts to reach Srinagar during the previous day, but the plane had to return to Jammu from Pir Panjal Pass, due to extremely bad weather. Though curfew was imposed to restore some semblance of order, it had little effect. The mosque pulpits continued to be used to exhort people to defy curfew and join Jehad against the Pandits, while armed cadres of JKLF marched through the streets of the Valley, terrorizing them no end.

As the night fell, the microscopic community became panic-stricken when the Valley began reverberating with the war-cries of Islamists, who had stage-managed the whole event with great care; choosing its timing and the slogans to be used. A host of highly provocative, communal and threatening slogans, interspersed with martial songs, incited the Muslims to come out on the streets and break the chains of ‘slavery’. These exhortations urged the faithful to give a final push to the Kafir in order to ring in the true Islamic order. These slogans were mixed with precise and unambiguous threats to Pandits.They were presented with three choices — Ralive, Tsaliv ya Galive (convert to Islam, leave the place or prish). Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims poured into the streets of the Valley, shouting ‘death to India’ and death to Kafirs.

These slogans, broadcast from the loud speakers of every mosque, numbering roughly 1100, exhorted the hysterical mobs to embark on Jehad. All male Muslims, including their children and the aged, wanted to be seen to be participating in this Jehad.Those who had organized such a show of force in the middle of a cold winter night, had only one objective; to put the fear of death into the hearts of the already frightened Pandits. In this moment of collective hysteria, gone was the facade of secular, tolerant, cultured, peaceful and educated outlook of Kashmiri Muslims, which the Indian intelligentsia and the liberal media had made them to wear for their own reasons.

Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were.

Most of the Kashmiri Muslims behaved as if they did not know who the Pandits were. This frenzied mass hysteria went on till Kashmiri Pandits’ despondency turned into desperation, as the night wore itself out.

For the first time after independence of India from the British rule, Kashmiri Pandits found themselves abandoned to their fate, stranded in their own homes, encircled by rampaging mobs.Through the frenzied shouts and blood-curdling sloganeering of the assembled mobs, Pandits saw the true face of intolerant and radical Islam. It represented the complete antithesis of the over-rated ethos of Kashmiriyat that was supposed to define Kashmiri ethos.

The pusillanimous Central Government was caught napping and its agencies in the State, particularly the army and other para military forces, did not consider it necessary to intervene, in the absence of any orders. The State Government had been so extensively subverted that the skeleton staff of the administration at Srinagar (the winter capital of the State had shifted to Jammu in November 1989) decided not to confront the huge mobs. Delhi was too far away, anyway.

Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them.

Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits phoned everyone in authority at Jammu, Srinagar and Delhi, to save them from the sure catastrophe that awaited them. The pleadings for help were incessant. But not a soldier came to their rescue. Therefore, Kashmiri Pandits found best protection in huddling together indoors, frozen with fear, praying for the night to pass. The foreboding of the impending doom was too over-powering to let them have even a wink of sleep.

The Pandits could see the writing on the wall. If they were lucky enough to see the night through, they would have to vacate the place before they met the same fate as Tikka Lal Taploo and many others. The Seventh Exodus was surely staring them in the face. By morning, it became apparent to Pandits that Kashmiri Muslims had decided to throw them out from the Valley. Broadcasting vicious Jehadi sermons and revolutionary songs, interspersed with blood curdling shouts and shrieks, threatening Kashmiri Pandits with dire consequences, became a routine ‘Mantra’ of the Muslims of the Valley, to force them to flee from Kashmir. Some of the slogans used were:

“Zalimo, O Kafiro, Kashmir harmara chod do”.

(O! Merciless, O! Kafirs leave our Kashmir)

“Kashmir mein agar rehna hai, Allah-ho-Akbar kahna hoga”

(Any one wanting to live in Kashmir will have to convert to Islam)

La Sharqia la gharbia, Islamia! Islamia!

From East to West, there will be only Islam

“Musalmano jago, Kafiro bhago”,

(O! Muslims, Arise, O! Kafirs, scoot)

“Islam hamara maqsad hai, Quran hamara dastur hai, jehad hamara Rasta hai”

(Islam is our objective, Q’uran is our constitution, Jehad is our way of our life)

“Kashmir banega Pakistan”

(Kashmir will become Pakistan)

“Kashir banawon Pakistan, Bataw varaie, Batneiw saan”

(We will turn Kashmir into Pakistan alongwith Kashmiri Pandit women, but without their men folk)

“Pakistan se kya Rishta? La Ilah-e- Illalah”

(Islam defines our relationship with Pakistan)

Dil mein rakho Allah ka khauf; Hath mein rakho Kalashnikov.

(With fear of Allah ruling your hearts, wield a Kalashnikov)

“Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e- Mustafa”

(We want to be ruled under Shari’ah)

“People’s League ka kya paigam, Fateh, Azadi aur Islam”

(“What is the message of People’s League? Victory, Freedom and Islam.”)

Wall posters in fairly large letters, proclaiming Kashmir as ‘Islamic Republic of Kashmir’, became a common sight in the entir Valley. So were the big and prominent advertisements in local dailies, proclaiming their intent:

‘Aim of the present struggle is the supremacy of Islam in Kashmir, in all walks of life and nothing else. Any one who puts a hurdle in our way will be annihilated’.

Press release of Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) published in the morning edition of Urdu Daily ‘Aftab’ of April, 01, 1990.

‘Kashmiri Pandits responsible for duress against Muslims should leave the Valley within two days’.

Head lines of Urdu Daily, Al Safa, of April, 14, 1990.

‘With Kalashnikov in one hand and Quran in the other the Mujahids would openly roam the streets singing the Tarana-e- Kashmir.’

Kashmiri Pandits should be given their rightfully owned right to live in Kashmir.
 
Wrong 180 million today (200-300million tomorrow) is a significant mass of humanity

A mass of humanity able to fight to protect their families, a mass of humanity able to kill its foes

There comes a point when population of a minority becomes so large that even though its a minority the sheer weight of numbers mean that they can push for their rights and fight to defend themselves


A small minority can be slaughtered outright


180 million isnt small it is massive; if indian hindus and indian muslims cant live together then partition of india becomes the only option



The muslim world is massive and growing, it has destroyed many nations and empires thst stood before it, it is growing and will rise again to become a power. It has more landmass, more people & more resources then you

Your oil, gas, people work in muslim lands

And most importantly you have a 200 million strong pakistan with 200 nuclear war heads pointed at you


Your little wet dream of attacking indian muslims will be our que to break india

little israel is more than enough for the entire muslims of the world.. Ha Ha.. thats what you are boy.. its the patience of non muslims that is helping you. When they loose it whole darm world canot save you
 
Indian muslims are indian

They are in their own homes, thrir own lands, they live, work, pay taxes IN india


If the indian government doesn't serve or protect them and the hindutva crowd wishes to attack then

Then the only option left is a partition of india into two countries one for indian muslims and one for indian hindus
Already happened they can move to Pakistan if they want . This India Is created for Hindus and Pakistan for Muslims who doesnt want to live with Hindus

Kashmirs should pickup the suicide bombing technology in masses.
and go to BD
 
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