Kashmir all-party meet: Modi discusses atrocities in Azad Kashmir, Balochistan

[halupridol]

But you must agree that reading his posts are extreme fun

i agree wid u
so how have u been,,,long time no see.

 

[scorpionx]

i agree wid u
so how have u been,,,long time no see.

Fine doc. Life has become busy especially when kids play on lap

 

[Gregor Clegane]

Fine doc. Life has become busy especially when kids play on lap

Hi, are you Indian?

 

[scorpionx]

Hi, are you Indian?

Yes.

 

[halupridol]

Fine doc. Life has become busy especially when kids play on lap

ahh,,,i forgot,,,,how r the little ones bro?
vaccines time pe lagwana

 

[M. Sarmad]

Not discussing it. I am answering the dimwit there on what Indian Logic is being used in Baluchistan. I have told you the logic earlier also. Accession of Baluchistan and Kashmir had same terms - autonomy in all except defence, external affairs, communication and finance.

Coming back, we will simply up the ante on Baluchistan in proportion to the Pakistani interference on Kashmir. The more Pakistan foments trouble, the greater will be the response now by India. I had mentioned it earlier. It is now a policy by GoI.

Am purely dealing on facts. Not getting into an intellectual discourse .. will tag for that when I do get into that. Let's stick to this topic.

You are ignoring the simple fact that it was not the terms of the Instrument of Accession that Pakistan objected to but the accession itself and the authority of the Maharaja to sign such an agreement. Pakistan rejected this accession as it was predicated on fraud and violence. Under international law," if a dispute arises as to sovereignty over a portion of territory where one party has actually displayed sovereignty, it is not enough for the other party to show territorial sovereignty once existed; it must also be shown that the territorial sovereignty has continued to exist and did exist at the time critical to deciding the dispute." ... At the time the Maharaja allegedly signed the accession, his sovereignty over the state had practically been eroded. And the Gilgit Region was a terra nullius as the Maharaja (or his predecessors) was never able to make his sovereignty effective in any way in that region.



As for accession of Khanate of Kalat to Pakistan, there were no similar issues. And this accession was not challenged by anyone. Neither by India, nor by the Khan himself. The Khan (like Nizam of Hyderabad) could have taken the issue to the Security Council by himself if he believed that Pakistan was trying to coerce him. He didn't.


By cablegram dated 21 August 1948,585 Hyderabad informed the Security Council, under Article 35 (Z), that a grave dispute had arisen between Hyderabad and India, which, unless settled in accordance with international law and justice, was likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security.


So, under International Law, even the accession of Hyderabad to India is disputed but the accession of Kalat to Pakistan is an accomplished task.


You can up the ante on Baluchistan as much as you want, but under International Law, Baluchistan is Pakistan's internal matter whereas Kashimir is NOT India's internal matter and nothing is going to change that

 

[Spectre]

You can up the ante on Baluchistan as much as you want, but under International Law, Baluchistan is Pakistan's internal matter whereas Kashimir is NOT India's internal matter and nothing is going to change that

Irrespective of the validity of your conclusion the situation on the ground is also impervious to change - politically, diplomatically or militarily.

 

[Hellfire]

@Azlan Haider not discussing here. You are a damn advocate(no offense, told you I respect you for your posts and will learn from them). In seniors cafe after 30 Sep I asked you time.

But I hope you recall I had told you this line would be taken? Lucky guess, eh?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Irrespective of the validity of your conclusion the situation on the ground is also impervious to change - politically, diplomatically or militarily.

Irrespective of what the oppressors say (or do), No oppression lasts for ever ...

 

[idune]

A pleasant surprise. Hope we get follow through.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...mment-on-Balochistan/articleshow/53685684.cms

Few paid up indian terror representative spewing lie, will make up indian deflection propaganda? That is what modi sold to indians. That is just pathetic. Both Pakistan and Iran are victim of indian orchestrated terror in Baluchistan. Lets see india make same propaganda claim against Iran.

 

[Spectre]

Irrespective of what the oppressors say (or do), No oppression lasts for ever ...

People forget the oppression - Ask the tibetians, ask the ughyurs, ask the native Indians, ask the aborigines, ask the maoris, ask the scots, ask the irish, ask the texans. After sufficient time passes - the oppressed are assimilated.

 

[idune]

People forget the oppression - Ask the tibetians, ask the ughyurs, ask the native Indians, ask the aborigines, ask the maoris, ask the scots, ask the irish, ask the texans. After sufficient time passes - the oppressed are assimilated.

indians have habit of defecting on others for their own crime. That habit will never go and india will stuck with medieval mentality.

 

[M. Sarmad]

@Azlan Haider not discussing here. You are a damn advocate(no offense, told you I respect you for your posts and will learn from them). In seniors cafe after 30 Sep I asked you time.

But I hope you recall I had told you this line would be taken? Lucky guess, eh?

Sure mate, take your time. And let me tell you I am a farmer, not a lawyer.... One thing I admit is that the Books written by Indian authors were very helpful in passing MBBS exams (BD Chaurasia, Inderbir Singh etc) before I decided to leave the Medical School and pursue a Master's degree in Political Science instead. Now I live in my village, which, by the way, is located just a few miles away from the disputed border we discuss so much


@scorpionx .. Kaisay ho Bhai ... Good to see you after so long

People forget the oppression - Ask the tibetians, ask the ughyurs, ask the native Indians, ask the aborigines, ask the maoris, ask the scots, ask the irish, ask the texans. After sufficient time passes - the oppressed are assimilated.

I said irrespective of what the oppressors say ...

 

[Syed_Adeel]

Conclusion

PAKistan not getting KAshmir any part, India will get over all the Hue cry by Pakistan . Everything will remain as it is

read my first line which you replied. that exactly fits on you.

 

[iPhone]

Modi wants to discuss Indian atrocities in Blochistan and Kashmir. That's very good development. For decades now we have been trying to tell the world of Indian terror activities in both Blochistan and Kashmir and now they want to bring that up themselves in international forum.

They should start by explaining the recent Quetta bombing and the killings of civilians in Kashmir.