Karzai wants US to protect Afghanistan from Pakistan

[Amaa'n]

It was pointless.

And kindly refrain from making racist remarks.

:o apologizes sir....but never meant to offend anyone, i wasn't being racist

It was pointless.

And kindly refrain from making racist remarks.

:o apologizes sir....but never meant to offend anyone, i wasn't being racist

 

[MilSpec]

Pakistan's stance on it has ZERO to do with ethnicity; if anything, it was Pakistan that has tried over decades to overcome the ethno-centrism that has plagued Afghanistan for so long. If it were a thing of ethnicity then non-Pashtun refugees would not have been allowed in Pakistan.

Our stance is simply that as long as we have a lot at stake as far as how things transpire in A-stan, we will be damn sure to have a say in matters there at least till they get their acts together and until the support for anti-Pakistan groups (be they militias or terrorist groups like TTP, BLA/BRA etc which have generous donors and backers - both local and foreign) is ENDED then we will continue to do whatever is in our power to create bulwarks against those threats

First, treat afghanistan as a sovereign country... they are not your backyard... as far as militias and terrorists is concerned, the cycle was started by your dear ISI not, afghans... you guys armed them, bullets for the those ak's come from pakistan.

and you indians need to accept the fact that as non-neighbours who share no border with them, that your say and leverage on this matter is close to null

If we are so insignificant in afghanistan, why do we here contant whining from your government about India. there seems to be a disconnect here

what are you talking about?

Your successive governments have tried to promote taliban, pashtun elements for power blocs in a-stan. Your pervez musharraf was proponent of promoting pashtun dominated government as they represent the majority of populace, going by the same standard, Wasn't pakistan formed on the same notion that a government dominated by majority of populace will undermine the political rights of the minority, and now you guys are peddling the pashtun majority.

 

[Sher Malang]

Nothing is wrong as long as he makes the request to the right party .


The problem with Karzai is he is NOT Going to stand and elected as Prez for third time as per constitution. Neither his brother has any chance so he is shooting in the air which is hurting Afghanistan's interests itself.

Recently Karzai also accused US of supporting terrorism in Afghanistan and now he is asking for saving him?

He isn't doing all this for saving himself or anyone else coz there is fear of nothing not near not far for him! but to justify his struggle in the history books that he didn't slept all these 12 years and was also not a loyal puppet.

 

[Jango]

First, treat afghanistan as a sovereign country... they are not your backyard... as far as militias and terrorists is concerned, the cycle was started by your dear ISI not, afghans... you guys armed them, bullets for the those ak's come from pakistan.

And the money and incentive came from the world's champion of Democracy.

 

[Sher Malang]

so what makes you so sure we have sanctuaries in Pakistani territory? have you been to sanctuaries ?

Many many reports, evidences, arrests and confessions indicates strongly that Taliban have their headquarters inside Pakistan even very recently the Qatari Taliban flew via Karachi airport to Qatar. More over, intelligence agents inside Pakistan within those sanctuaries have prevented many terror attacks inside Afghanistan by letting know the authorities on time.

 

[MilSpec]

And the money and incentive came from the world's champion of Democracy.

Pakistan's security policy needs to be decided in islamabad, not washington d.c

 

[Always Neutral]

You have over 4000 posts, try to act like a Senior Member instead of trolling like a 10 year old child.

The TTP at the peak of its strength tried to take on PA head on conventionally, Result: It got smashed and PA steam rolled through its defences. This is why it has resorted to guerilla tactics, hit and run.

This is what happens when you as a Think Tank jump into a thread by reading one post?

I have never said that good or bad Taliban have won a battle vs conventional forces. PA & NATO will spank them to Kingdom come if they did that.

My point is to the people who post the following clap trap

1. Good Taliban and Bad Taliban are at each others throats.
2. Good Taliban control the country side in Afg and Karzai is mayor of Kabul.
3. Bad Taliban disappears into the Afg countryside every time PA does a major operation.

can you not see the contradiction?

All my posts are for PA to be the only Army to wield weapons in Pakistan like the ANA in Afg.

So my last advice is do not wish onto NATO defeat as then Taliban will have only PA on its gun sights.

Taliban of 2001 is very different from the one of 2013.

 

[Jango]

Pakistan's security policy needs to be decided in islamabad, not washington d.c

Things have changed since the 80's, especially since 2010 onwards.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Mullah Omar taking over Afghanistan would mean Pakistan's collapse and TTP ruling from Islamabad whose emir is Mullah O. What a surprise for Pakistanis it will to be conquered by a one eyed Afghani finally.

You are obviously CLUELESS about Afghanistan Affairs.

Go TROLL somewhere else Mr. TROLL.

 

[Always Neutral]

You are obviously CLUELESS about Afghanistan Affairs.

Go TROLL somewhere else.

Happens when you do not read the thread and jump in to post. Take Prozac now and go to sleep.

Conversely you may not know much about Pakistani affairs too.

When we said Pakistan is on the verge of a failed state we were called trolls now two years later the head of the ISI confirms it in a signed statement there is pin drop silence here.

 

[M.harris]

Happens when you do not read the thread and jump in to post. Take Prozac now and go to sleep.

Conversely you may not know much about Pakistani affairs too.

When we said Pakistan is on the verge of a failed state we were called trolls now two years later the head of the ISI confirms it in a signed statement there is pin drop silence here.

lets see who will got failed after one year

 

[FaujHistorian]

Pakistan's security policy needs to be decided in islamabad, not washington d.c

If your prejudiced belief system (Hindu-vs. Muslim prejudice that is), tells you that Pakistan's security policy is decided in DC, then the very essence of this thread is moot.

And yet, Indian posters continue to lap up this prejudice $hit. Why?


I could write more but I hope you realize why you post the way you post.


peace

 

[FaujHistorian]

He isn't doing all this for saving himself or anyone else coz there is fear of nothing not near not far for him! but to justify his struggle in the history books that he didn't slept all these 12 years and was also not a loyal puppet.

OK.

Few things to remember.

Karazai himself refuses to enforce travel restrictions on Pak-Af border.

Let us both use a strict mechanism like biometrics.

This will make sure who goes where,

And hopefully the bad guys will not turn Pak-Af border into an open highway.

peace

 

[MilSpec]

If your prejudiced belief system (Hindu-vs. Muslim prejudice that is), tells you that Pakistan's security policy is decided in DC, then the very essence of this thread is moot.

And yet, Indian posters continue to lap up this prejudice $hit. Why?


I could write more but I hope you realize why you post the way you post.


peace

Have you actually lost your mind... atleast read the context of my post before vommiting your cynnical rants... where the hell did hindu muslim nonsense come into the picture...

indeed you could write more... it doesn't take much to shoot off your mouth without any content...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

First, treat afghanistan as a sovereign country... they are not your backyard... as far as militias and terrorists is concerned, the cycle was started by your dear ISI not, afghans... you guys armed them, bullets for the those ak's come from pakistan.

that's correct; we armed them to fight against a foreign invasion....and it wasnt just Pakistan doing that

what happened following the over-throw of the soviet invaders is purely the fault of afghans alone, and that is something they will have to introspect over.

If we are so insignificant in afghanistan, why do we here contant whining from your government about India. there seems to be a disconnect here

the only issue of contention is india's covert support for terrorist groups using lawless afghan soil

other than that - there are no major issues; in fact we've even allowed Afghan trucks to use Pakistani highways (free of cost) to transport goods to hindustan.....we didn't have to extend that courtesy, but we did anyways as a CBM

Your successive governments have tried to promote taliban, pashtun elements for power blocs in a-stan. Your pervez musharraf was proponent of promoting pashtun dominated government as they represent the majority of populace, going by the same standard, Wasn't pakistan formed on the same notion that a government dominated by majority of populace will undermine the political rights of the minority, and now you guys are peddling the pashtun majority.

He outlined the cause of taleban's raison detre and in fact he highlighted the reason why even moderate Pashtuns not affiliated with taleban were forced to become collaborators, informants or even joining taleban ranks -- due to karzai govt and his NATO masters' monumental blunders in their war on terrorism strategy --which merely entailed installing puppets and warlords to replace others

(karzais own brother involved in the drug trade)

as for the rest of your post, it either makes no sense or isnt worth delving into