Karakorum - 8 (K-8) | Jet Trainer Aircraft.

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[razgriz19]

i just read an artile and it said Pakistan makes the frontal fuselage for K-8!
meaning we do get certain amount of money from all those K-8 exports.

 

[Manticore]

i just read an artile and it said Pakistan makes the frontal fuselage for K-8!
meaning we do get certain amount of money from all those K-8 exports.

were you referring to this 2002 info?

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K-8 fuselage handed over to China


By Our Correspondent

ATTOCK, Nov 5: Pakistan Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (PAMF), Kamra, handed over the first front fuselage of K-8 aircraft to Peoples Republic of China at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), Kamra, on Tuesday.

Speaking at the handing over ceremony, the PAC chairman, Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb Khan, appreciated the efforts of the PAMF in establishing itself as a recognized equipment manufacturer with an ultimate goal to manufacture a modern fighter jet for Pakistan Air Force.

The handing over documents were signed by the managing director of the PAMF, Air Cdre Zakir H. Khan, and the Chinese defence attache, Maj-Gen Saa E. Chee Khua.

The PAC chairman said the PAMF could rightly take pride in its accomplishments as the designing and development of K-8 itself was an achievement.

The induction of the aircraft in air forces of Pakistan, China, Egypt, Myanmar, Zambia, and Namibia bear testimony to this fact, he added.

He said the PAC had immense potential to grow and it was the prime organization for production, repair and overhaul of military aircraft and equipment. "Today, the PAMF has completed assembly of first front fuselage, which shall bring us closer to the envisaged goal of achieving 25 per cent production of airframe structure at the factory."

We are also in the process of evaluating transfer of technology programme, which is of national importance, the chairman added.

He appreciated the support and understanding extended by the CATIC and Hun Do Aviation Industrial Group, China, with the PAMF throughout all the phases of the K-8 project.

Earlier, highlighting the achievements and features of the PAMF, Air Cdre Zakir said the K-8 project was launched in 1986.

He said the K-8 prototype flew its maiden flight in 1991 and after all designs parameters were successfully achieved, both the sides vowed to continue co-operation in small batch production phase.

The managing director said the contract for transfer of technology of front fuselage was signed in 1999.

The production schedule stipulates manufacture of three front fuselages in 15 months out of which first fuselage has been completed, while assembly of second and third is under way and expected to complete in time, he added.

Air Cdre Zakir said that front fuselage comprised of aircraft nose cone, front and rear cockpit, nose landing gear, aircraft gun and canopy.

"Pakistan and China together have successfully accomplished many projects in the past and K-8 co-development is an example which can be proudly quoted."

The K-8 is a stepping stone to get involved in projects like co-development of Super-7, a light combat aircraft, which is scheduled to make its maiden test flight in June, 2003, he added.

 

[Manticore]

 

[Chogy]

I love the lines of this aircraft.

An interesting concept is to build a HUGE fleet of this sort of airplane... K-8, Bae Hawk, L-39, T-38, F-5. Simple subsonic/transonic trainer type turbojet airplanes. The cost is low. Next, you arm them with the most ultra-modern IR missiles, like the AIM-9X. Best would be a helmet site for HOBs use. No gun, no radar.

Swarms of these could be used for point defense. Overwhelm the enemy with numbers. It would require a ground or air based surveillance/GCI radar. Such formations could protect an important area, but only during daylight hours. And they would drop like flies vs. more modern platforms, but numbers could win in the end. You'd have no shortage of volunteer pilots despite the dangers.

It's the same old story, quality vs. quantity. And as the Soviets (maybe it was the Chinese) say, "Quantity is a quality all its own."

 

[fatman17]

i just read an artile and it said Pakistan makes the frontal fuselage for K-8!
meaning we do get certain amount of money from all those K-8 exports.

kamra's contribution is 25%.

 

[jamal18]

I love the lines of this aircraft.

An interesting concept is to build a HUGE fleet of this sort of airplane... K-8, Bae Hawk, L-39, T-38, F-5. Simple subsonic/transonic trainer type turbojet airplanes. The cost is low. Next, you arm them with the most ultra-modern IR missiles, like the AIM-9X. Best would be a helmet site for HOBs use. No gun, no radar.

Swarms of these could be used for point defense. Overwhelm the enemy with numbers. It would require a ground or air based surveillance/GCI radar. Such formations could protect an important area, but only during daylight hours. And they would drop like flies vs. more modern platforms, but numbers could win in the end. You'd have no shortage of volunteer pilots despite the dangers.

It's the same old story, quality vs. quantity. And as the Soviets (maybe it was the Chinese) say, "Quantity is a quality all its own."

There was talk of a single seat version being developed for air-defence, but have nothing more of it for a while.

Yes, I like your idea.
'
And I love the old US proverb : 'quantity has a quality all of its own!'

 

[razgriz19]

were you referring to this 2002 info?

DAWN.COM | Archive | Your Source of News on the World Wide Web



K-8 fuselage handed over to China


By Our Correspondent

ATTOCK, Nov 5: Pakistan Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (PAMF), Kamra, handed over the first front fuselage of K-8 aircraft to Peoples Republic of China at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), Kamra, on Tuesday.

Speaking at the handing over ceremony, the PAC chairman, Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb Khan, appreciated the efforts of the PAMF in establishing itself as a recognized equipment manufacturer with an ultimate goal to manufacture a modern fighter jet for Pakistan Air Force.

The handing over documents were signed by the managing director of the PAMF, Air Cdre Zakir H. Khan, and the Chinese defence attache, Maj-Gen Saa E. Chee Khua.

The PAC chairman said the PAMF could rightly take pride in its accomplishments as the designing and development of K-8 itself was an achievement.

The induction of the aircraft in air forces of Pakistan, China, Egypt, Myanmar, Zambia, and Namibia bear testimony to this fact, he added.

He said the PAC had immense potential to grow and it was the prime organization for production, repair and overhaul of military aircraft and equipment. "Today, the PAMF has completed assembly of first front fuselage, which shall bring us closer to the envisaged goal of achieving 25 per cent production of airframe structure at the factory."

We are also in the process of evaluating transfer of technology programme, which is of national importance, the chairman added.

He appreciated the support and understanding extended by the CATIC and Hun Do Aviation Industrial Group, China, with the PAMF throughout all the phases of the K-8 project.

Earlier, highlighting the achievements and features of the PAMF, Air Cdre Zakir said the K-8 project was launched in 1986.

He said the K-8 prototype flew its maiden flight in 1991 and after all designs parameters were successfully achieved, both the sides vowed to continue co-operation in small batch production phase.

The managing director said the contract for transfer of technology of front fuselage was signed in 1999.

The production schedule stipulates manufacture of three front fuselages in 15 months out of which first fuselage has been completed, while assembly of second and third is under way and expected to complete in time, he added.

Air Cdre Zakir said that front fuselage comprised of aircraft nose cone, front and rear cockpit, nose landing gear, aircraft gun and canopy.

"Pakistan and China together have successfully accomplished many projects in the past and K-8 co-development is an example which can be proudly quoted."

The K-8 is a stepping stone to get involved in projects like co-development of Super-7, a light combat aircraft, which is scheduled to make its maiden test flight in June, 2003, he added.

aahhh i can't seem to remember but it could be this one..

 

[Windjammer]

Not sure if these have been posted before, besides point defence, the K-8 can also be deployed for counter insurgency and light strike roles with Gun pod and Rockets.

 

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[regular]

Not sure if these have been posted before, besides point defence, the K-8 can also be deployed for counter insurgency and light strike roles with Gun pod and Rockets.

this aircraft realli looks like Saqi of Iran...

 

[fatman17]

a total of 51 K-8P's have been delivered to the PAF. total requirement is 80.

 

[Inception-06]

Not sure if these have been posted before, besides point defence, the K-8 can also be deployed for counter insurgency and light strike roles with Gun pod and Rockets.

So why Pakistan Air Force do not arm the K-8 ?

 

[razgriz19]

So why Pakistan Air Force do not arm the K-8 ?

because we have fighter aircrafts for that duty.
if the need arises you would see weapons on them, all PAF K-8s are capable of carrying missiles and bombs....