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Separate Karachi from Sindh, and than see the difference.

Not a long term solution.

Karachi's local people with Karachi domicile are not being recruiting. Majority of them join private organizations.

Frustrated with the mismanagement many people from Karachi have been migrating and settling in the Western countries. In Toronto, Pakistanis are 60% Punjabi, 35% Urdu speaking from Karachi and 5% mostly Pakhtuns. Why does a ethnicity with only 8% of Pakistanis represent 35% of Pakistanis living in Toronto ?
 
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Is there no elected mayors for the big cities? That would help Karachi or Lahore etc if there was separate budget for big cities and a mayor like London or New York
 
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Not a long term solution.



Frustrated with the mismanagement many people from Karachi have been migrating and settling in the Western countries. In Toronto, Pakistanis are 60% Punjabi, 35% Urdu speaking from Karachi and 5% mostly Pakhtuns. Why does a ethnicity with only 8% of Pakistanis represent 35% of Pakistanis living in Toronto ?
Because they are educated, talented and mistreated in their home country.
 
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No no no forget politician(yeh tu khi ky hn,sindh yah punjab sab ek jaisy chor ) norm Sindhi are very nice loving peoples and faced same issue like us (norm necessities of life is not available ) but if u asked them why vote PPP?what other choice they got?GDA ...full of sindh top wadeeras who want to push them back to 1600 thats why i m saying only PTI got appeal to them but IK is not considering it rather depending on GDA who never able to give challenge to PPP in interior from 1988 by votes PTI is backing an dead horse rather than believing itself which they did in khi and even surprised by themselves by result which is far far better than they get in Lahore where they focused all energies for last 5 years before 2018 elections
How unfortunate is that we gave 15 NA seats to PTI yet PPP rules over us due to jahils of interior sindh.

18th amendment ki ma ko l*n
 
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Karachi should be its own province this might solve the negligence corrupt and ghost employees which government use to get funds.
 
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IK is not considering it rather depending on GDA who never able to give challenge to PPP in interior from 1988 by votes PTI is backing an dead horse rather than believing itself which they did in khi and even surprised by themselves by result which is far far better than they get in Lahore where they focused all energies for last 5 years before 2018 elections

Karachi voted PTI due to two main reasons: MQM imploded and Imran Khan was a major factor. Karachi have been repeatedly disappointed with PPP and PMLN and will not vote for them so PTI got most of the votes. Now PTI has to prove that they deserved the votes from Karachi. GDA knows interior Sindh more than PTI and they need them now. I agree that Imran Khan should also concentrate on interior Sindh.
 
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How unfortunate is that we gave 15 NA seats to PTI yet PPP rules over us due to jahils of interior sindh.

18th amendment ki ma ko l*n

What do NA seats have to do with PPP ruling the province of Sindh? Did you also give some PA seats to PTI? At least enough for them to rule Karachi? No? Oh, yeah, MQM has them. So I believe both the 'jahils' of the interior and exterior came out neck and neck.

You need to stop this moronic 'blaming every other Pakistani except yourself'.

So Karachi is to Pakistan

To Pakistan?
 
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Is there no elected mayors for the big cities? That would help Karachi or Lahore etc if there was separate budget for big cities and a mayor like London or New York
Former President Pervez Musharraf reformed the municipal governments by electing Mayor and city councils. One of the first things that the PPP and PMLN provincial governments did after being elected was to revert to the old system where the municipal governments are appointed by the provinces rather than be elected by the citizens.
 
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Is there no elected mayors for the big cities? That would help Karachi or Lahore etc if there was separate budget for big cities and a mayor like London or New York
Physical designation is there to show
What do NA seats have to do with PPP ruling the province of Sindh? Did you also give some PA seats to PTI? At least enough for them to rule Karachi? No? Oh, yeah, MQM has them. So I believe both the 'jahils' of the interior and exterior came out neck and neck.

You need to stop this moronic 'blaming every other Pakistani except yourself'.
his statement really hurt you? Despite the fact he is telling truth here, ooh I see truth is bitter to accept.
He emphasized on 18 amendment, to whom karachits should vote now? To PPP or to PMLN? Thank God we are not Atleast the supporter of corrupt elites & not a worshiper of kleptocrats.

If you have problem with MQM then it's your decision, dont relate MQM with rest of karachits & don't drag us in hate speech.
 
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I answered him too and answer u as well check stats and figure PTI won 23 provincial seats of Karachi out of 42 which is fair ratio consider NA seats they capture(its simple trend mostly goes of areas where na goes ) and NA results are 14 PTI,3 MQM-P and PPP 3 so 23 is same as NA rsult pattern .But that all past hope together with open minds and hearts we can discuss some good suggestion for betterment of not only KHI,but whole sindh and whole Pakistan
What do NA seats have to do with PPP ruling the province of Sindh? Did you also give some PA seats to PTI? At least enough for them to rule Karachi? No? Oh, yeah, MQM has them. So I believe both the 'jahils' of the interior and exterior came out neck and neck.

You need to stop this moronic 'blaming every other Pakistani except yourself'.
 
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What do NA seats have to do with PPP ruling the province of Sindh? Did you also give some PA seats to PTI? At least enough for them to rule Karachi? No? Oh, yeah, MQM has them. So I believe both the 'jahils' of the interior and exterior came out neck and neck.

You need to stop this moronic 'blaming every other Pakistani except yourself'.



To Pakistan?
PTI has 30 provincial seats in Sindh mostly from Karachi. Don't run mouth without knowledge. Usually a voter will vote for same party for national and provincial seats.
 
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his statement really hurt you?

Not really, why would it? I am not a Sindhi, don't live in Sindh, never voted or supported PPP. That was a stupid thing to say.

His was a moronic statement, devoid of reality and full of hate and hence answered. As is yours. He calls Sindhis jahils for electing PPP, you defend him, I call him out on it and I am the one dragging you into hate speech?

Despite the fact he is telling truth here, ooh I see truth is bitter to accept.

What truth? That PPP is in power because of Sindhis? Obviously it is. Just as true as the fact that MQM has ruled Karachi and ground it deep into the ground because of these Karachiites who vote for them and then go blame Sindhis for Karachi's troubles. What have the innocent Karachiites done to turn Karachi's fortunes? What wise acts have the Karachiites performed, as opposed to the Sindhis, in the last elections to allow PTI to rule Karachi (which apparently is the all in all for Karachi's salvation)? Apart from granting PTI 14 National Assembly seats, which in his opinion absolves Karachiites from any blame of PTI not ruling Karachi or Sindh today? How can you ever hope to hide your hypocrisy behind blaming others?

He emphasized on 18 amendment, to whom karachits should vote now? To PPP or to PMLN?

Do you know what the 18th amendment is? Do you have any idea what it says? Neither does @Syed1. Here, go through it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Amendment_to_the_Constitution_of_Pakistan

Once you have, please enlighten us as to how did the 18th amendment stop you from voting for PTI for the provincial assembly, how does it stop you from voting PTI in for Karachi's local government? How did it force Karachi to vote for MQM? That too for decades, when it was not in effect. You obviously can't.


The excuse that you are trying to present, if at all, with the 18th amendment is that had it not been in place IK could have somehow used his messianic powers to force the provincial government of Sindh and the local government of Karachi to its knees and fixed everything, right? That is an even more moronic argument than blaming Sindhis. Could you please enlighten us as to what authority did the federal government hold over the provincial and local city governments before the 18th amendment? How exactly do you envisage that IK would have fixed Karachi?


Thank God we are not Atleast the supporter of corrupt elites & not a worshiper of kleptocrats.

Voted in MQM for decades, watched them literally burn the city to the ground, indulge in treason through anti-state statements, gang violence, murders and terrorism, and then came here to defend them? Buddy, you are nothing but a worshipper of kleptocrats. And a hypocrite to boot. Typically Pakistani.

If you have problem with MQM then it's your decision, dont relate MQM with rest of karachits & don't drag us in hate speech.

How can I not? When you can barf poison at Sindhis for electing PPP how in God's name are Karachiites absolved for electing MQM over and over and over again? You should have a problem with MQM. At least before having a problem with Sindhis.

I answered him too and answer u as well check stats and figure PTI won 23 provincial seats of Karachi out of 42 which is fair ratio consider NA seats they capture(its simple trend mostly goes of areas where na goes ) and NA results are 14 PTI,3 MQM-P and PPP 3 so 23 is same as NA rsult pattern .But that all past hope together with open minds and hearts we can discuss some good suggestion for betterment of not only KHI,but whole sindh and whole Pakistan

They did, and admirably so. However, not in any fashion to allow @Syed1. to claim innocence for Karachiites and blame internal Sindhis for Karachi's situation. Especially since Karachi is today what it is because it voted for MQM for decades. They should stop blaming it on everyone else and take a good hard look at themselves.


PTI has 30 provincial seats in Sindh mostly from Karachi. Don't run mouth without knowledge.

PTI has 23 elected PA seats in Sindh and exactly the point.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2018/07/live-pakistan-election-2018-results/


Out of the 44 PA seats in Karachi PTI won 21. Out of the rest 8 went to PPP. Is it safe to assume now that "PPP rules over you due to jahils" of not just internal Sindh but of Karachi as well?


Usually a voter will vote for same party for national and provincial seats.

What is that an excuse for?


These pathetic statements of how always another Pakistani is somehow responsible for the hell that you/we are in have to go. This moronic laying of blame and perpetuation of hatred has to stop. We are, all of us, in every single corner of Pakistan (except GB), where we are exactly because of our own selves. Not because Sindhis vote for PPP, not because Punjab votes for PMLN and not because Karachi votes for MQM. We are here because we as a people are imbecilic, cowardly hypocrites to the extent where we love to indulge in every corrupt practice ourselves, support and elect traitors in one form or another and then always blame the other for when it hits the fan. Is talab mein sab nangay hain.
 
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not focusing interior sindh
God helps those who help themselves...those people really refuse to help themselves :( Like interior Punjab!

People keep it civil no NAME CALLING!
 
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Not really, why would it? That was a stupid thing to say.

His was a moronic statement, devoid of reality and full of hate and hence answered. As is yours. He calls Sindhis jahils for electing PPP, you defend him, I call him out on it and I am the one dragging you into hate speech?



What truth? That PPP is in power because of Sindhis? Obviously it is. Just as true as the fact that MQM has ruled Karachi and ground it deep into the ground because of these Karachiites who vote for them and then go blame Sindhis for Karachi's troubles. What have the innocent Karachiites done to turn Karachi's fortunes? What wise acts have the Karachiites performed, as opposed to the Sindhis, in the last elections to allow PTI to rule Karachi (which apparently is the all in all for Karachi's salvation)? Apart from granting PTI 14 National Assembly seats, which in his opinion absolves Karachiites from any blame of PTI not ruling Karachi or Sindh today? How can you ever hope to hide your hypocrisy behind blaming others?



Do you know what the 18th amendment is? Do you have any idea what it says? Neither does @Syed1. Here, go through it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Amendment_to_the_Constitution_of_Pakistan

Once you have, please enlighten us as to how did the 18th amendment stop you from voting for PTI for the provincial assembly, how does it stop you from voting PTI in for Karachi's local government? How did it force Karachi to overwhelmingly vote for MQM? That too for decades now, even when it was not in effect. You obviously can't.


The excuse that you are trying to present with the 18th amendment is that had it not been in place IK could have somehow used his messianic powers to force the provincial government of Sindh and the local government of Karachi to its knees and fixed everything, right? That is an even more moronic argument than blaming Sindhis. Could you please enlighten us as to what authority did the federal government hold over the provincial and local city governments before the 18th amendment? How exactly do you envisage that IK would have fixed Karachi?




Voted in MQM for decades, watched them literally burn the city to the ground, indulge in treason through anti-state statements, gang violence, murders and terrorism, and then came here to defend them? Buddy, you are nothing but a worshipper of kleptocrats. And a hypocrite to boot. Typically Pakistani.



How can I not? When you can barf poison at Sindhis for electing PPP how in God's name are Karachiites absolved for electing MQM over and over and over again? You should have a problem with MQM. At least before having a problem with Sindhis.

What is the education standard of interior Sindh? They clear their exam by cheating and same sindhi students join Govt institutions. Anyone can easily judge what is their caliber to run the institutions. On the other end local karachits are not being recruited, majority of them join private organizations.

You people put the most civilized people of Pakistan into the dustbin, you never trust on us.
Do you have any idea of the history ? When karachits wanted to support madr-e-millat mohtarma fatima jinnah over dictator but whole Pakistan rejected the ideology of most civilized nation of Pakistan that time, after that we supported zulfiqar Ali Bhutto because of his ideology for the betterment of Pakistan against another dictatorship of Zia, but once again our ideology had been rejected. If any nation deny the ideology of civilized people that nation will surly go down, which we have experienced in pakistan, anyway atrocities was started with karachits they were not recruited in Govt positions, they had to face hate from across the country, In that situation karachits was looking for the leadership who could raise the voice in favour of karachits & act against nepotism of waderas then Altaf Got a chance to exploit the feelings of karachits & became the Leader. He had been successfully fooling the karachits for long time until he showed his real face & karachits rejected him.
we Karachis have been sacrificing for long time for the betterment of Pakistan but who cares? by rejecting the most civilized people of country, nation can't be prosperous, nation will always be ruled by kleptocrats, corrupts & by those who don't know how to run the affair of state.

We always preferred better leadership for the country which mostly is rejected after few years unfortunately.

Now 18 amendment I know about it very well. I have been discussing about the pros & cons of 18 amendment. It's a curse on Pakistan. It divide us more. It weakens the federation, I hope I don't need to tell what's the meaning to weaken the federation.

Read all links posted by me from the comment here
 
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PTI is in catch 22 situation. Government is hoping that things will turn around after the arrest and conviction of PPP leadership.
IK won’t use amendment 149 unless PPP march toward Islamabad, and Governor Raj will be in extreme situation.
PTI has seats in Sindh assembly and want to bring change via assembly.
 
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