Justice Ather Minallah bombshell - Courts overthrowing PTI Govt prevented Martial Law

[newb3e]

so if Sabh was planning a coup and CJ sabh knew about his plan where is article 6 on Wardi sabh?

yahan bc hum tweet kar dain toh article 6 laga keh pitaye kartay hain! ya cj ko bhi dha ka plot mila howa hai?

 

[Olympus81]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565340909465931778

Lagta hai boys ki aapas me larai hogai hai.

 

[Black.Mamba]

Lagta hai boys ki aapas me larai hogai hai.

 

[Olympus81]

And to think that Pakistan’s future lies in these fickle minded egoistic boomers?

No wonder.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Negative marks for lies miss information and derailing thread

Would you like to elaborate what is lie??

Then why PTI was against it.. why PDM didn't say it was PTI move at the first place.

They did take this line but no one is/was ready to listen.

 

[Signalian]

Yep.

Pakistanis need to rise up against the corrupt Army leadership and Establishment like the Turks did, but all our arrogance and braggadocio and 'ghairat' is reserved for beating women and children or 'blasphemy'.

The Army leadership has played its cards well - it has basically emasculated a big chunk of Pakistanis and distracted the rest with religion, sectarianism, ethnic conflict and basic survival.

Hard to believe now that the PPP has managed to rig elections and get away with keeping Sindh so backward and under-developed with the levels of corruption and atrocities (by wealthy politicians and land owners) that we see today, without the Army leadership actively supporting them.

The Army Leadership is basically an extension of the British Colonialists - subjugate and rule over the population by dividing and conquering - just a more refined and expanded version of the same playbook.

You make it sound as if all the disruptive planning has been done immaculately like a perfect movie script and it has resulted superbly, no short comings anywhere, not a slightest error. Whatever done against Pakistan or as it is implied has been carried out immaculately like an automated process with 100% results as wanted, an algorithm which never had any chance of failure. All the objectives have been accomplished successfully.

Doesn't it seem too unrealistic to be true

The US isn't really that concerned about Pakistan acquiring conventional military equipment from China.

US opposition to Imran Khan, which aligned with the corrupt Pakistan Army Leaderships own concerns, was that Imran Khan was becoming stronger and taking more independent positions and decisions. Longer term, they saw the US losing more and more influence over Pakistan. The Army saw this as a threat because they had nothing to blackmail Imran Khan with and therefore could not control him and did not want to lose their own unconstitutional influence and control over the country.

The US has always found it easier to deal with corrupt politicians and corrupt military generals, so on this the US, PMLN+PPP+Pak Army found a common cause.

Here again, the most common, straight forward analysis. A theme that is customary notion in public. Is it really that simple.

A General officer, trained in military, strategic, tactics and warfare, comes out on top as a successful political game changer, yet his military courses and his military training will be considered short in front of his duties for Public Relations. He needs to get a degree in PR to run ISPR, but he is politically so sound that his 35 years of different military courses could have been political or regime change courses instead.

This tends out to be genius who studies military courses for 35 years, yet accomplishes political feats on national arena but cannot manage PR department - and all this without incurring Martial law.

 

[WhoDaresSpeak]

Anyone with basic history knowledge can understand the situation very well. Pakistan Army has always tried to gain control over the country as they think they're doing us a favor. Remember HRC? The commission wanted major changes in the courses of Pakistan Army that officers undertake during their service, but of course the report of that commission went missing.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

A General officer, trained in military, strategic, tactics and warfare, comes out on top as a successful political game changer, yet his military courses and his military training will be considered short in front of his duties for Public Relations. He needs to get a degree in PR to run ISPR, but he is politically so sound that his 35 years of different military courses could have been political or regime change courses instead.

This isn’t just one general - it is a series of traitorous bastards in uniform going back to Ayub Khan and his officers corps, who degraded and humiliated Fatimah Jinnah and rigged the system and elections against her.

It continued with Yahya Khan and the debacle of 1971. Some of the these generals chose to take power overtly, others have acted behind the scenes to manipulate the system and elections to overthrow governments, neutralize popular politicians and therefore perpetuate the unconstitutional role and influence of the Army over the country.

 

[The Accountant]

Would you like to elaborate what is lie??



They did take this line but no one is/was ready to listen.

NAB law amendment by pmln is to close her own cases ... Imran khan has no nab cases

 

[The Accountant]

@Accountant whats up with the negative rating? The fellow could be a pro n league but he came up with legal facts ----- wasn't it the bold and handsome who wanted his blue eyed 60's bureaucracy's control over an independent accountability aganecy like the bastardised provincial anti corruption or the f.i.a ?




Just kickback and enjoy the show coz someone stepped foot on the elite's tail. It's almost a daily occurrence watching them on t.v advising the masses on how they should uphold law and bear with the due course unless it's one of these thugs feeling the heat .

Are there any cases on Imran Khan in NAB for which he changed the NAB laws ?

Imran khan changed NAB laws to give protection to non public related transactions not for personal gain ...

Anyways main issue is derailing the thread ... The thread is about establishment and its use of pmln ... And risk of marshal law ... What it has to do with any law passed by PTI years ago ?

 

[imadul]

As far as solutions - @SQ8 probably has it correct - it will take a bloody and violent revolution to purge Pakistan from the parasites that have taken hold of it, and the Army and Establishment Elite know that, hence the 'periodic pressure release points'.

Before the PTI, the Army hid behind the 'oh, these dynastic politicians running the major political parties are corrupt and incompetent, we are your savior'. Well, whether the PTI was helped into winning or prevented from winning big in 2018 - that victory introduced a new third national political party into domestic power dynamics that took away the excuse the Army hid behind. The hope here is that Imran Khan chooses to play the long game and continues to leverage social media to get his message out.

Imran Khan may not be the best candidate for Prime Minister by any means, but he has become the most influential and important public leader since Bhutto (if not Jinnah) who can rally public sentiment in favor of a movement for genuine democracy free from the influence of the Army elite.

All illusions and deceptions now removed and filthy establisent has realized it also after their RCO. It was always keep the power in their hands and Nun and PPP corruption favored them as they could use it to play the musical chair for 30 years. They supported PTI to remove them and once realized IK is not someone they can blackmail and play usual cards they removed him using two main corrput and dynastical parties.
It back fired. They are fearful of the fate of turkish army where thousands are lingering in prisons after failed coup of Jan 16, 2016.

 

[Signalian]

This isn’t just one general - it is a series of traitorous bastards in uniform going back to Ayub Khan and his officers corps, who degraded and humiliated Fatimah Jinnah and rigged the system and elections against her.

It continued with Yahya Khan and the debacle of 1971. Some of the these generals chose to take power overtly, others have acted behind the scenes to manipulate the system and elections to overthrow governments, neutralize popular politicians and therefore perpetuate the unconstitutional role and influence of the Army over the country.

I expected the same theme but from a logical perspective. Not a political narrative.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I expected the same theme but from a logical perspective. Not a political narrative.

A political narrative!?

Are you denying what the dictator, self-appointed Field Marshal Ayoub Khan, did to Fatima Jinnah?

Are you denying what his successor, another dictator, General Yahya Khan did in East Pakistan?

Are you denying what the dictator, General Zia-ul-Haq, did to ZA Bhutto, and to Pakistani society in general with allowing religious extremism to flourish?

Are you denying what a series of military leaders did to the governments of Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto through the 90’s?

Are you denying what the dictator Musharraf did to Nawaz Sharif?

Not just violations of the constitution - these military fascists ripped the constitution to shreds and blackmailed, manipulated and bought off judges, politicians and others to come up with absurd justifications for their rule.

What part of the above is a ‘political narrative’?

Why are you so upset over me calling a spade a spade - these traitors deserve to be called a lot worse than ‘bastards in uniforms’.

The institution of the Army owes the people of Pakistan an unconditional public apology for all the damage and chaos it has caused and continues to cause.

 

[Signalian]

A political narrative!?

Are you denying what the dictator, self-appointed Field Marshal Ayoub Khan, did to Fatima Jinnah?

Are you denying what his successor, another dictator, General Yahya Khan did in East Pakistan?

Are you denying what the dictator, General Zia-ul-Haq, did to ZA Bhutto, and to Pakistani society in general with allowing religious extremism to flourish?

Are you denying what a series of military leaders did to the governments of Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto through the 90’s?

Are you denying what the dictator Musharraf did to Nawaz Sharif?

Not just violations of the constitution - these military fascists ripped the constitution to shreds and blackmailed, manipulated and bought off judges, politicians and others to come up with absurd justifications for their rule.

What part of the above is a ‘political narrative’?

Why are you so upset over me calling a spade a spade - these traitors deserve to be called a lot worse than ‘bastards in uniforms’.

The institution of the Army owes the people of Pakistan an unconditional public apology for all the damage and chaos it has caused and continues to cause.

Thanday ho jayo, coke peetay ho ? Warna ice cream kha lo

Yar, I know history of Pakistan. I have to ask you specifically now otherwise you will type whole Pak studies book here

In case of Bajwa -35 years of military training, courses and tests on every step, excercises in field and on simulations, then command and staff posts related to HR since dealing with troops, and senior/junior officers. Now the two points I mentioned earlier, I’m not boot pasting, you can read in my first post to you for better clarification:
1. Fool proof plan (so called regime change)
2. Political perfection yet no political study/experience. No martial law. Not even taking a supreme position of power.

About point 2. That I spend a career of 30+ years as engineer but I play my best hand as a doctor. Exaggerated a bit here but u get my drift.

 

[Jango]

of military training, courses and tests on every step, excercises in field and on simulations, then command and staff posts

I don't have a horse in this race, but boy oh boy do you place tooooooooo much emphasis on these things, and think they are all encompassing.