Judge rejects minor girl's plea to skip swim class on religious grounds

[Bhairava]

How dare ze Germans treat the Muslim girl on par with every other child like it ought to be done in a school?

 

[Elmo]

I have edited the thread title... enough with dragging Islam everywhere.

 

[third eye]

Listen Hindu, If you came to my house, you will take off your shoes. Otherwise fly your way back to Pune.

Grow up Muslim,

Read what I have written..I have said I CANNOT say..

..and Muslim, if you have bothered to read the location I have mentioned below my Avatar it mentions a river - dont know if they teach geography in Pak - if they did posters would know the river is nowhere near Pune.

..and desist from addressing me by my religion .

 

[Cloakedvessel]

A similar case that happened over four years ago with the same outcome.

German Muslim girl can't skip swim lessons: court - The Local

German Muslim girl can't skip swim lessons: court
Published: 7 May 08

The administrative court in Düsseldorf ruled that the state's responsibility to educate the girl outweighed the potential infringement on her religious freedom.

The 12-year-old girl's parents sued her school in the northern German city of Remscheid after the school refused to allow the girl to skip swimming class. Citing religious reasons, the parents said they did not want their daughter to participate because her body would not be covered.

The ruling means the girl must participate in swimming lessons starting next week, Sabine Ernst of the Alexander von Humboldt School told German news agency DDP. Ernst declined to state what the consequences could be if the girl declines to attend.

Her parents' attorney said the family plans to appeal and that the decision should not be considered precedent-setting.

The parents rejected an offer last year from the girl's teacher to allow her to swim in leggings and a t-shirt, saying the girl's body would still be visible through the wet clothing.

The Düsseldorf court concluded that because most of a swimming lesson takes place underwater, the girl's body would largely remain obscured even in wet clothing.

The Remscheid school said it did not have the personnel to separate boys and girls in swimming lessons. In the past the school had allowed Muslim girls to skip the lessons and take a different class instead, but a rule put in place last year explicitly requires participation by Muslim students.

 

[RazPaK]

Grow up Muslim,

Read what I have written..I have said I CANNOT say..

..and Muslim, if you have bothered to read the location I have mentioned below my Avatar it mentions a river - dont know if they teach geography in Pak - if they did posters would know the river is nowhere near Pune.

..and desist from addressing me by my religion .

If a disgusting Hindu such as yourself preserves the right of insulting hosts then your condition will be no different than what it is. Respect others so that you may respected.

 

[third eye]

If a disgusting Hindu such as yourself preserves the right of insulting hosts then your condition will be no different than what it is. Respect others so that you may respected.

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There is no cure for comprehension issues.

 

[cyphercide]

I read this burkini part, but the article says she wants no boys in the mix.

Let her prove her physical ed without boys. The girl feels this way, so let her.

Uhuh. Also, this is a minor we're talking about and her parents are well within their rights to interfere in her affairs.

I was rather pointing my question to Safriz who is of the opinion of duping the court to make the case.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

Sick ******* Europeans. These pedos cannot even stay out of a teenager's life.

Looks like an European.

 

[Safriz]

Please delete the thread before somebody starts protests and violence.

Anger is highly prevalent these days on everything.

Your comment shows you are totally ignorant of muslim mindset..

 

[SpArK]

Your comment shows you are totally ignorant of muslim mindset..

I was right.

Anger is indeed highly prevalent these days on everything.

 

[Safriz]

Uhuh. Also, this is a minor we're talking about and her parents are well within their rights to interfere in her affairs.

I was rather pointing my question to Safriz who is of the opinion of duping the court to make the case.

Nothing wrong with making things easy for yourself.
There is no law in Germany which recognizes Quranic guidelines for genders,but there are laws which recognise other things,such as not willing to swim out of fear,phobia,allergy,or simply not wanting to.
What matters is the end result.
If the girl gets her right of choosing not to swim,thats what matters.
Even after court ruling,no police will be called if she simply refuses to attend swimming classes and gives no reason.
Key term here is 'knowing the law of the land'.

I was right.

Anger is indeed highly prevalent these days on everything.

Admit it,you are only trolling.

 

[Bhairava]

Looks like an European.

Definitely not a Saudi...looks like a Pathan from Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Listen Hindu, If you came to my house, you will take off your shoes. Otherwise fly your way back to Pune.

That is exactly what the German court told the Muslim girl.

If you come to our home (Germany) prepare to take swimming lessons with guys. Otherwise fly your way back to Morocco.

 

[Safriz]

Looks like an European.

THe picture is non sense..
The description says 'saudi man'.
But this man is wearing an Afghan,central asian dress..
Certainly some ignorant came up with this hate propaganda without propper research.

 

[Developereo]

Your comment shows you are totally ignorant of muslim mindset..

Please don't waste time responding to pointless posts of no value.

That you needed to dig up a case that is more than 4 years old.....

Are you sure it's the same case?
The girl here is not talking about covering her body but seeing bare chested boys.

The judge said she could wear a burkini which other Muslim girls were wearing in her school

Exactly. The school is meeting them half way, and it's up to the girls family to adapt themselves to Western norms.

For all purposes, the girl is being brought up to be perverted and with a skewed sense of interacting with the opposite sex. Clearly, unfit to be in the West.

The only thing being asked of them is to teach their girl that certain things are the norm in the West. It doesn't mean she has to like it or follow it, but she must learn to deal with the situation if she wants to live a normal life in Germany.

 

[Safriz]

I had a similar problem some years ago.
My son's school wanted all the class to attend a church service.
I had no problem with my son visiting a church,but i found out thar it will be a propper church servive,with all praying the christian way.
I didnt bother to go to school admin and bash them with what my religion says..
I simply took my so to school half an hour late when the class had already left for the church.