JuD openly advertising

[GentlemanObserver]

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[Abu Zolfiqar]

Big deal - JuD would change its name from JuD to JaD (Lashkar-e-Toiba ---> Lashkar-e-Taiba--->Jamaat-ud-Dawa) and continue its operations like nothing ever happened.

LeT is a defunct organization; as for JuD, hindustan will naturally not view it as ''friendly'' since it's core objective is the liberation of occupied Kashmir. That said, hindustan has even to this day failed miserably to produce any evidence that JuD had anything to do with terrorism in the country; namely the mumbai thing

As for the hypocrisy part - india does not have freedom-fighter training camps in its part and pushes them across whenever it gets the chance

they can't, because no groups believe that Pakistan is occupying Kashmir; we treat Kashmiris with full respect, unlike what happens in your side where security forces are killing maiming and suppressing them on daily basis

nor does it arm ten men to go on a rampage in Karachi.

no, but hindustan uses other ways in other parts of the country to try dirty games; that is why it is important for intel agencies to constantly be on high alert

 

[karan.1970]

LeT is a defunct organization; as for JuD, hindustan will naturally not view it as ''friendly'' since it's core objective is the liberation of occupied Kashmir. That said, hindustan has even to this day failed miserably to produce any evidence that JuD had anything to do with terrorism in the country; namely the mumbai thing



they can't, because no groups believe that Pakistan is occupying Kashmir; we treat Kashmiris with full respect, unlike what happens in your side where security forces are killing maiming and suppressing them on daily basis




no, but hindustan uses other ways in other parts of the country to try dirty games; that is why it is important for intel agencies to constantly be on high alert

A lot of people do think that Pak occupied Kashmir is much worse off. Do read up ion the EU parliament's report on the same or Dr Shabir's blogs.

And India really doesn't need to do anything in any part of Pakistan. You are pretty good at doing it to yourself

 

[GentlemanObserver]

JUD & Flood Relief. How does Kashmir fit in this picture exactly?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

A lot of people do think that Pak occupied Kashmir is much worse off. Do read up ion the EU parliament's report on the same or Dr Shabir's blogs.

I think the recovery of unnamed mass-graves, lawlessness, inhuman activities, torture and mighty efforts to suppress the Kashmiris indigenous struggle for their legitimate right to self-determination are reason enough to have me believe otherwise

And India really doesn't need to do anything in any part of Pakistan. You are pretty good at doing it to yourself

There is no civil disobedience or uprising in Azad Kashmir. Let’s leave it at that

 

[karan.1970]

I think the recovery of unnamed mass-graves, lawlessness, inhuman activities, torture and mighty efforts to suppress the Kashmiris indigenous struggle for their legitimate right to self-determination are reason enough to have me believe otherwise

About you, I already know what you believe and with you being Pakistani, thats neither surprising nor wrong. I was however refering to people outside of India and Pakistan.

There is no civil disobedience or uprising in Azad Kashmir. Let’s leave it at that

You are right. What ever is happening in rest of Pakistan, there is nothing civil about it.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

About you, I already know what you believe and with you being Pakistani, thats neither surprising nor wrong. I was however refering to people outside of India and Pakistan.

doesnt matter; because they are either un-informed or mis-informed. Not their faults.

I am however referring to Kashmiri people, since they are the people in question. And the injustices committed against them, nobody here should turn a blind eye against it

You are right. What ever is happening in rest of Pakistan, there is nothing civil about it.

we have threads to discuss untoward incidents (man-made and natural) in Pakistan

but attention shouldnt be deflected away from Kashmir

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I think the recovery of unnamed mass-graves, lawlessness, inhuman activities, torture and mighty efforts to suppress the Kashmiris indigenous struggle for their legitimate right to self-determination are reason enough to have me believe otherwise





There is no civil disobedience or uprising in Azad Kashmir. Let’s leave it at that

Well said brother.

I will add to that there has been none in the past or present any rally and unrest/ demonstration for indipendence in pakistani Kashmir. where as in indian occupied Kashmir its a different story

 

[Irfan Baloch]

JUD & Flood Relief. How does Kashmir fit in this picture exactly?

well said. by the way you got the icon of "art of war" of retribution paladin tree dont you?

 

[GentlemanObserver]

well said. by the way you got the icon of "art of war" of retribution paladin tree dont you?

Thanks Irfan, and yeah well spotted!

I take it your a wow player too then...

 

[Spring Onion]

A lot of people do think that Pak occupied Kashmir is much worse off. Do read up ion the EU parliament's report on the same or Dr Shabir's blogs.
elf

I know that man personally. He is an Indian Agent earlier Kashmiris in UK had kicked him out of UK and now he is carrying out Indian boot licking for dollars in Canada.

And FYI he is a frequent India visitor. The task assigned to him is to create misconception about Azad Kashmir and to praise India.

 

[karan.1970]

doesnt matter; because they are either un-informed or mis-informed. Not their faults.

Very frankly sir, there will be very few people who will take your dictat on whether the views of EU parliament matters or not. I for one, won't.

I am however referring to Kashmiri people, since they are the people in question. And the injustices committed against them, nobody here should turn a blind eye against it

I can go into the standard statement of integral parts etc, but that discussion has been done a million times here. So for the sake of brevity, I will concede that no one should turn a blind eye towards their citizens. Thanks for reminding

we have threads to discuss untoward incidents (man-made and natural) in Pakistan

but attention shouldnt be deflected away from Kashmir

I agree. Though its a little difficult accepting sermons about the situation in Kashmir of some one from a country where the law and order situation is a significantly worse.

 

[Iggy]

JUD & Flood Relief. How does Kashmir fit in this picture exactly?

Its not about kashmir..its about a banned terrorist organisation advertising in a newspaper and publically collecting money...Your country is commited to act against terrorism and you government is allowing it to happen..what will be picture of your country in the mind of outsiders??

 

[karan.1970]

Its not about kashmir..its about a banned terrorist organisation advertising in a newspaper and publically collecting money...Your country is commited to act against terrorism and you government is allowing it to happen..what will be picture of your country in the mind of outsiders??

I read about UK based Pakistanis contributing against such advertisements. I wonder which bank accounts those contributions came into if all JuD accounts have been frozen.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Its not about kashmir..its about a banned terrorist organisation advertising in a newspaper and publically collecting money...Your country is commited to act against terrorism and you government is allowing it to happen..what will be picture of your country in the mind of outsiders??

Funny, from what i have read in the past few posts seems more attuned to rants regarding kashmir .

what will be picture of your country in the mind of outsiders??

We already know what outsiders think of us, don't we... Need we politicise this?

I read about UK based Pakistanis contributing against such advertisements. I wonder which bank accounts those contributions came into if all JuD accounts have been frozen

Use your brain, just because Dawa has had it's accounts frozen, do you honestly think an organisation that large does not receive funds from other legally operating charitable organisation run throughout the globe...