JuA commander responsible for Parachinar attack killed in Kabul

[313ghazi]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...it-to-india/story-qvL9NS6wgl17sy756hE2WN.html

But Islamabad has insisted that India’s role in Afghanistan be restricted and complained about the Indian support for the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) accused by Islamabad of terrorism in Pakistan. The RAW-TTP link was publicly revealed in April this year by its former commander, Ehsanullah Ehsan.

Mattis’ request that India moderate its support for TTP will put Delhi in a fix because TTP is useful as an Indian counterpart of the Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba, and Jaish-e-Mohammad deployed by the Pakistan Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in Jammu & Kashmir. Severing relations with TTP will mean India surrendering an active card in Pakistan and a role in Afghanistan as TTP additionally provides access to certain Afghan Taliban factions. This, together with the Abdul Ghani regime’s desire for India’s presence and the tested friendship with Abdul Rashid Dostum and his Tajik-dominated ‘Northern Alliance’, ensures that no solution for peace in Afghanistan can be cobbled together without India’s help.

Mattis’ returning home empty-handed will not hurt relations with the US at all because there’s China; and the US needs India to strategically hinder it.

He knows this, he just wants to dereail the topic arguing about semantics.

 

[war&peace]

So indians are playing stupid here and trying to tell us that there has been no connection between NDS and RAW....how shweet as if we are going to believe their lies?...

NDS speaks the same language as RAW and both have the same objectives and methods and 5 indian consulates in a war torn Afghanistan are not there for any purpose other than to provide a subterfuge to all the terrorists of TTP and JuA etc.

Because he was your chief tool.

@WebMaster @Oscar @Chak Bamu @Slav Defence @Secur can you please tell us what's wrong with this post that it deserves a negative rating?
If someone can't handle a normal discussion and abuses his power..do you really think he should have that?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

If I were given to what-aboutery, as you and other Pakistani members of your way of thinking are, I could pull out dozens of examples of your own officials, not agents who have switched sides and are now seeking the protection and warmth that these preposterous confessions will buy them, but appointed officials who have proudly acknowledged the extent to which Pakistani 'support' has taken the state. An extent that has led to the country's reputation in the eyes of counter-terrorist officials the globe over, not merely in south Asia.

Chill down. I am not interested in your rants. More into correcting you for what is under discussion.

You can pull the rabbits out of your hat for some other occasion. For time being, do yourself a favor, acknowledge the ugly face of your state and move on.

He knows this, he just wants to dereail the topic arguing about semantics.

The likes of him need to be put in their place.

 

[Joe Shearer]

So indians are playing stupid here and trying to tell us that there has been no connection between NDS and RAW....how shweet as if we are going to believe their lies?...

NDS speaks the same language as RAW and both have the same objectives and methods and 5 indian consulates in a war torn Afghanistan are not there for any purpose other than to provide a subterfuge to all the terrorists of TTP and JuA etc.


@WebMaster @Oscar @Chak Bamu @Slav Defence @Secur can you please tell us what's wrong with this post that it deserves a negative rating?
If someone can't handle a normal discussion and abuses his power..do you really think he should have that?

Are you new to the forum?

 

[My-Analogous]

JuA commander responsible for Parachinar attack killed in Kabul while coming out of the NDS Headquarters gate
October 10, 2017

KABUL – Sher Ali Khan, Mastermind of Parachinar bombing in Pakistan tribal area and the top commnader of Jamaat ul Ahraar assassinated by un identified gunmen inside Afghanistan along with his nephew and an Afghani bodyguard.

The top commander of the Jamaat ul Ahraar was killed while he was coming out of the office of the Afghanistan Intelligence Agency NDS in Kabul.
None of the militant organisation has claimed responsibility of the attack.

https://timesofislamabad.com/jua-co...-out-of-the-nds-headquarters-gate/2017/10/10/

So we are doing more now, are they happy?

Are you new to the forum?

Big responsibilities means big heart and now i am expecting roll back your negative mark to him. Please don't disappointing me. Thank you in advance

 

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WOW JUST WOW , Planning was under way for a long of time but Its execution OH BOY.
We are gonna see many more , I PROMISE

 

[alibaz]

JuA commander responsible for Parachinar attack killed in Kabul while coming out of the NDS Headquarters gate
October 10, 2017

KABUL – Sher Ali Khan, Mastermind of Parachinar bombing in Pakistan tribal area and the top commnader of Jamaat ul Ahraar assassinated by un identified gunmen inside Afghanistan along with his nephew and an Afghani bodyguard.

The top commander of the Jamaat ul Ahraar was killed while he was coming out of the office of the Afghanistan Intelligence Agency NDS in Kabul.
None of the militant organisation has claimed responsibility of the attack.

https://timesofislamabad.com/jua-co...-out-of-the-nds-headquarters-gate/2017/10/10/

So the terrorist met his fate. Was he getting out of socks and his masters killed him? Rest in hell

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Every dog has his day.

 

[Ace of Spades]

No proof, no evidence, just you saying so? Nowhere near an Indian, nowhere near an Indian office, nowhere in India....you glare and scowl and we shit our pants, and accept whatever you have to say?

You seems to be a reasonable person, at least from your posting, since i am coming on this forum. You actually are saying this? However, coming to the point. How deep states act against each other i assume you would have a basic know-how. So i am not gonna go in to details and examples. Basic reading of modern warfare and how intelligence agencies of declared enemy states work against each-other is even in knowledge of a new born. NDS-RAW would not call press conference to declare their animosity towards Pakistan. Actions speak louder than words. If your responsible office holders will come and take pride in whatever bad happens in Pakistan it have some basis if not all. Otherwise, the establishment would give a shut up call risking the national security by giving baseless statements.

Whatever I had to say about that particular NSA has been said elsewhere, in other threads. Might I mention that I personally know two previous ones, far more effective, far less bombastic and publicity seeking, quite apart from whatever inside knowledge I happen to have. If you take such an exhibition seriously, I have no difficulty in leaving you to your reveries, and in retiring from a discussion where people support their prejudices and defend their own guilt by quoting an imbecile unfit for public office, appointed by another imbecile unfit for public office.

Coming to your second argument, policies of intelligence agencies are in consistence with their national interest and regardless of the fact that you guys used to had less-spoken more effective NSA or now the opposite. Regime change would have influence; yes. But i don't expect a drastic policy change. Whatever this current Modi, RSS regime is saying on TV is what's happening in past as well. These kids are just bragging too much about it. Unfolding cards...

 

[Rafi]

RAWs cow piss drinkers (they literally eat & drink cow's mega-shit ref videos below) will be crying against ISI and they will try to stage some other terrorist attack inside Pakistan, or firing on LOC will be increased so our LEAs and agencies need to be more on alert.

Dude that is wrong, have many Indian friends, with different political views, some are even very pro-Pakistan peace.

To mock a cultural aspect is wrong, remember there are many patriotic Pakistani Hindu fighting and dying for out country.

 

[war&peace]

Dude that is wrong, have many Indian friends, with different political views, some are even very pro-Pakistan peace.

To mock a cultural aspect is wrong, remember there are many patriotic Pakistani Hindu fighting and dying for out country.

It is basically aimed at those RSS supporters who believe in lynching anyone who eats meat, who support terrorism in Pakistan.

By the way sir, I didn't make the fun of any cultural aspect rather it is not cultural rather a cult-ural aspect practiced by the cult of the extremist bhakts, I simply stated the fact that they drink the cow piss and that's what they do proudly and preach and thus I backed it up with video references.. drinking cow urine is not embarrassing for them. There are plenty of videos on youtube showing from ministers to their religious leaders openly advocating and drinking it on camera.

 

[Rafi]

"Cry ranging for revenge, with Ate by his side come hot from hell, shall in these confines with a Monarch's voice cry "Havok!" and let slip the dogs of war."

 

[Joe Shearer]

You seems to be a reasonable person, at least from your posting, since i am coming on this forum. You actually are saying this?

Yes, I am actually this. And I have said this for some time. The latest occasion was a few days ago; if you read it, you will understand, and will also know that this is a collaborative piece of fiction between your intelligence agency and a public servant who had an undistinguished career and was picked up and elevated beyond his position by someone who was a misfit himself.

Let's get to your point.

However, coming to the point. How deep states act against each other i assume you would have a basic know-how. So i am not gonna go in to details and examples.

I believe I do. I believe I have demonstrated this familiarity and knowledge, as far as it is proper to do on a public forum read by very many who consider our country to be an enemy country. It is also true that my sources are gradually getting attenuated by retirement. I am 67; my cohort is long out of service, and even their juniors are rapidly moving out. Nevertheless, you might like to see older posts.

Basic reading of modern warfare and how intelligence agencies of declared enemy states work against each-other is even in knowledge of a new born. NDS-RAW would not call press conference to declare their animosity towards Pakistan. Actions speak louder than words. If your responsible office holders will come and take pride in whatever bad happens in Pakistan it have some basis if not all. Otherwise, the establishment would give a shut up call risking the national security by giving baseless statements.

Please read what I write next very carefully, not because I am insensitive to your concerns, but because I am sick of repeating these pieces of information incessantly, every quarter or so, as a new set of members comes on board.

1. Our intelligence service was formed long after its sub-continental rivals; it had a small budget and a handful of people in the first ten years, and at that stage, was abruptly put on a leash by one of the most eccentric Prime Ministers of all, the one who put India on the map through his urine-drinking.
2. Its covert activities were restored, but largely confined to intelligence gathering through all sources, including information from paid sources, with a very limited budget.
3. There was no record, no question of its interference in any other country's affairs, until Christine Fair, who is the American analyst that Pakistanis love to hate, but who was then at that time a pro-Pakistani commentator, came across two discoveries: that there were 22 consulates of India in Afghanistan, and these were described by a middle level Indian official with nothing whatsoever to do with the situation as centres for intelligence activity. As the actual number is 5, at Kabul, Jalalabad, Kandahar, Herat and Mazhar-i-Sharif, going clockwise, the rest of her information can be assessed.
4. Covert activities were suspended a second time by Manmohan Singh, budgets were cut and personnel reverted to their original cadres (RAW is largely staffed by police officers on short deputations, and have a permanent cadre that does what it is told to do, and is not militarised as its Pakistani counterpart is) and were resumed only in 2014.
5. You have assumed that I might know, or suspect, a little of what is needed to be known about intelligence activities; that implies that you know of these things. You may like to wrap your mind around the possibility of the agency in question having speeded up in three years to a completely dominating position in south Asia.

This will help you to judge who is fooling whom.

Coming to your second argument, policies of intelligence agencies are in consistent with their national interest and regardless of the fact that you guys used to had less-spoken more effective NSA or now the opposite. Regime change would have influence; yes. But i don't expect a drastic policy change. Whatever this current Modi, RSS regime is saying on TV is what's happening in past as well. These kids are just bragging too much about it. Unfolding cards...

I trust that I will not have to narrate whatever I have done in point form just above. I have nothing more to add.

"Cry ranging for revenge, with Ate by his side come hot from hell, shall in these confines with a Monarch's voice cry "Havok!" and let slip the dogs of war."

One of my favourite quotes. Thanks. It's 'Havoc', btw.

 

[cocomo]

No proof, no evidence

India has been supporting ISIS using its companies.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ong-those-in-isis-supply-chain-says-eu-study/

 

[Joe Shearer]

India has been supporting ISIS using its companies.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ong-those-in-isis-supply-chain-says-eu-study/

There are dozens of European and American companies that collaborated with Dr. A. Q. Khan in his bid to build a nuclear facility for Pakistan. None of them were instigated by their intelligence agencies; they were just irresponsible criminals. So are the examples you have quoted.

Do pick more credible pegs on which to hang your paranoia.