Joint Parliamentary session on Kashmir

[Dubious]

This is the most blatant misinterpretation I have seen ever. The treaty was made with non muslims of medinah, not of makkah. what are you on?

Also, there was supposed to be a plebiscite, there hasnt been one, treaty broken, just like hudaybiyah, india revoked the special status, against going against the international law, law broken, illegal action taken.

and seriously what personal interest are you talking about? this is for general interest, and human value. unless you think Kashmiris are beneath us, and are not humans.

I am talking about the initiation of the whole event....not parts or pieces...

 

[Winchester]

Not a single immediate step announced by the Prime Minister to punish India. Not a single one !!!

 

[Dubious]

And in Badr the Prophet marched out against a trade caravan not an army. maybe you are forgetting that? ALL action is permitted against the oppressor.

Can I discuss this another time..
I need to do a bit of research on details...

The treaty I talked about was the first one...to establish peace...without that effort nothing else was possible...and that itself was an effort that built the foundations. If that wasn't made we would have had wars in beginning. But peace was first step

Not a single immediate step announced by the Prime Minister to punish India. Not a single one !!!

So you want him to announce soldiers moving to LOC and give you the location so maryam can tweet it for all to know?

 

[Crusher]

tweets kahan hain peaceforgafoor keh?

That guy often appears to be in the wrong profession, he should probably join a peace preaching NGO which mostly preaches peace by means of twitter.

 

[Tameem]

Not a single immediate step announced by the Prime Minister to punish India. Not a single one !!!

Its Mitti pao attitude...nothing else.

 

[S.Y.A]

I am talking about the initiation of the whole event....not parts or pieces...

No you are not. you are merely cherry picking whatever suits you, and conveniently forgetting the details.

 

[Winchester]

So you want him to announce soldiers moving to LOC and give you the location so maryam can tweet it for all to know?

Yes, I wanted him to announce we will reinforce the LOC with additional troops.

I wanted him to announce we will double our support to the Kashmiri people.(unforgivable that he didn't even give one reassurance to the youth of Kashmir).

I wanted him to announce cessation of diplomatic relations with India.

On my first watch, I thought the speech was poor. After rewatching it, I think it was pathetic.

 

[Khafee]

Not a single immediate step announced by the Prime Minister to punish India. Not a single one !!!

Give it some time, a commander always checks what is the actual status of his troops, war funds, enemy movements, acceptable losses, etc BEFORE going on the offensive.

Give him some time.

In the mean time, (not just you, but everyone), come up with a realistic course of action, and provide +ve input. Injuns are laughing their behinds of at your infighting right now. This is the time to have a united front.

 

[Dubious]

Also, there was supposed to be a plebiscite, there hasnt been one, treaty broken, just like hudaybiyah, india revoked the special status, against going against the international law, law broken, illegal action taken.

and seriously what personal interest are you talking about? this is for general interest, and human value. unless you think Kashmiris are beneath us, and are not humans

We are seeking International court invention
No Kashmiris are not beneath us but we are bound by international treaties and laws to warn first

In the mean time, (not just you, but everyone), come up with a realistic course of action, and provide +ve input. Injuns are laughing their behinds of at your infighting right now. This is the time to have a united front.

Exactly my point several threads and pages ago

 

[VCheng]

We see seeking International court invention
No Kashmiris are not beneath us but we are bound by international treaties and laws to warn first


Exactly my point several threads and pages ago

Does the ICJ have jurisdiction in this matter?

 

[Winchester]

Its Mitti pao attitude...nothing else.

Better than spreading Fasaad. Maryum is not fit for leadership.

 

[Dubious]

Yes, I wanted him to announce we will reinforce the LOC with additional troops.

I wanted to announce we will double our support to the Kashmiri people.(unforgivable that he didn't even give one reassurance to the youth of Kashmir).

I wanted him to announce cessation of diplomatic relations with India.

On my first watch, I thought the speech was poor. After rewatching it, I think it was pathetic.

He doesn't have to announce it...The army already said we are ready...have some faith in them

Does the ICJ have jurisdiction in this matter?

UnSC
I am not sure which one

Read we are taking it to ICJ as a case of violation of some laws need to provide check what basis

 

[S.Y.A]

No Kashmiris are not beneath us but we are bound by international treaties and laws to warn first

So where is the warning? where is the troop mobilization? All I see is a scared PM, who talks big about Riyasat e Madina, but when it is time to act like Riyasat e Madina he is nowhere to be seen.

 

[Dubious]

No you are not. you are merely cherry picking whatever suits you, and conveniently forgetting the details.

No I am not and I am Def annoyed having to type from my mobile while moderating multiple threads while having daily dealings going on as well...

My point was he first move was peaceful...treaties were set up
When they didn't work then war was announced that too after a long time. But even before war, peace was always sought before the war...

 

[Winchester]

Give it some time, a commander always checks what is the actual status of his troops, war funds, enemy movements, acceptable losses, etc BEFORE going on the offensive.

The speech had huge optics value. I mentioned yesterday the youth of Kashmir will be watching what the PM of Pakistan has to say. They will be looking for symbolic support. They got zilch from the Prime Minister. Infact he went on the defensive fearing an Indian attack on AJK.

A leader apart from being a decision maker is also the cultural head of the country. Lincoln's finest moment was the Gettysburg address. An important part of leadership is to inspire and the PM failed to do it today.