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John Kerry asks Pakistan to reduce nuclear arsenal

Yes we are stuck with your 8 F-16s. Happy ?
More than happy, no sight is more beautiful than an indian dying of gastric gas

We are also getting 15 AH-1Z Viper helicopters with 1000 hellfire missiles:woot::guns:

For WOT :pleasantry:
 
India's nukes are not aimed at Pakistan or China, it's just for politics, and the govt is aiming for minimum credible deterrence, so it cannot have an aggressive posture. So it's obvious that Pakistan, having openly declared an aggressive nuclear posture, will come under pressure to reduce its arsenal.
 
I agree with Senator Kerry here.This does not make sense.
50 can do the job, then why maintain a load of 500.
No body is stopping you from the research work, if any of that exits.
It's just a number so, pick a safe one & move forward from there.
Obviously losing or reducing part of nuclear arsenal should mean a strong conventional defense to be the spearhead.
Mr.Senator and his likes should offer Pakistan something that she can't refuse.F-16s are certainly not that.So, they will have to do more.

The reason being, Pakistan's trying to create fact on the ground for its future conversion to wealth benefiting the state and the public by extension. 50 does not amount to much fact on the ground and any geopolitical chips. But 500 or 1500 might become fat enough chips which can be negotiated on with wealthy states of the world (who naturally due to their wealth have a stake in keeping the world safe), for a "reduction" from say 1500 to 1100 in some kind of an international arrangement like SALT, while Pakistan is compensated for, in economic terms (preferential access to markets, foreign investments, transfer of needed technologies etc).

Will it solve all of Pakistan's problems? Obviously no. But can it help it to alleviate some? Absolutely yes.

Pakistan's population will top 360 million by middle of this century. That is a population bigger than today's United States crammed into an area less than 8% of United States. Pakistani state has a huge responsibility to shoulder in the next couple of decades while preparing to provide for all these people, by hook or by crook. Failure to do so would mean disaster.

The primary function of Pakistan's nukes is obviously to deter the Indian forces for which per yourself it might require as few as 50. But a secondary function can be assigned as well. The function of portraying a responsible state actor which sits at a table and negotiates about a "reduction" of its huge stockpile in order to make the world a "safer" place and promote "peace" meanwhile being compensated economically (Iran did something similar recently exchanging a self-created fact for geopolitical advantages).

Without this shortcut, the only other alternative to prosperity would be hard work on national level to create an economy capable of wealth generation at a massive scale (a possible feat but something which very few nations in the world have actually been able to do this in history of mankind).
 
The reason being, Pakistan's trying to create fact on the ground for its future conversion to wealth benefiting the state and the public by extension. 50 does not amount to much fact on the ground and any geopolitical chips. But 500 or 1500 might become fat enough chips which can be negotiated on with wealthy states of the world (who naturally due to their wealth have a stake in keeping the world safe), for a "reduction" from say 1500 to 1100 in some kind of an international arrangement like SALT, while Pakistan is compensated for, in economic terms (preferential access to markets, foreign investments, transfer of needed technologies etc).

Will it solve all of Pakistan's problems? Obviously no. But can it help it to alleviate some? Absolutely yes.

Pakistan's population will top 360 million by middle of this century. That is a population bigger than today's United States crammed into an area less than 8% of United States. Pakistani state has a huge responsibility to shoulder in the next couple of decades while preparing to provide for all these people, by hook or by crook. Failure to do so would mean disaster.

The primary function of Pakistan's nukes is obviously to deter the Indian forces for which per yourself it might require as few as 50. But a secondary function can be assigned as well. The function of portraying a responsible state actor which sits at a table and negotiates about a "reduction" of its huge stockpile in order to make the world a "safer" place and promote "peace" meanwhile being compensated economically (Iran did something similar recently exchanging a self-created fact for geopolitical advantages).

Without this shortcut, the only other alternative to prosperity would be hard work on national level to create an economy capable of wealth generation at a massive scale (a possible feat but something which very few nations in the world have actually been able to do this in history of mankind).


Don't worry about Pakistani population. As they said in "Jurassic Park" life will find a way. There is a lot land in India, Iran, Middle East and other parts of the world to accomodate Pakistanis. If you have studied history it was overpopulation in Europe that led them to colonise great parts of the World. Why is Australia or New Zealand Anglo? why not Pakistani, Middle Eastern, African, Chinese or Indonesian or for that matter anything else or a mix of all of the above. In 50 years world will be a very different place and we should stop looking at it from a Western lens. The future lies with countries with a high population growth rather than aging populations like in Japan and Northern Europe.
 
Pakistan will not accept any unilateral curbs

This is the first time we hear about any scope of nuclear disarmament
i am surprised Pakistan has said it several times that its ready for mutual nuclear disarmament! do you want me to post every leader quote since 1990 !
 
Woot nukes, Israel doesn't admit having nukes
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Usual american hypocrisy. Reduce your arsenal first americans.
I don't see the hypocrisy in this case.

Americans have reduced their nuclear stockpile with passage of time (significantly, I may add);

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Source: Transparency in the U.S. Nuclear Weapons Stockpile

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Pakistan have developed 110 - 130 nuclear weapons so far. We don't need anymore.

A nuclear war between Pakistan and India is not winnable for either side.
 
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I have not spotted anything "strategic" in these talks as of yet. No economics, trade or geopolitics discussed between the two nations. All focus is on Pakistan nukes. Why Pakistan is even attending these talks when the agenda is based on non starters which is Pakistan strategic program. Has Pakistan expressed concerns about the safety of American nukes and their land and sea based ICBMs which can target Pakistan easily, and with lunatics like Donald trump knocking on white house door, what the future holds for the safety of Americans nukes? Pakistan nukes are not for debate internal or external. What Sartaj Aziz can discuss about something which is not even his domain!
 
Kerry speaking for crying Indians, who don't want to reduce arms tension in the region & as well as nuclear programs, but they all want Pakistan to compromise. WTF is this?

Pakistan should continue to develop in the field of missiles & nuclear program, it is a GOD given right to Pakistan & Pakistan should respond as per the region, if there is a increase in the region then Pakistan should increase to, if there is a decrease in the region then Pakistan should act accordingly. Everything should be done on the bases of equality.

Bull shit like, US continues to help India in arms & nuclear program but on the other hand they want Pakistan to reduce their defence program, these kind of bull shits should be slapped back on the face of US.
 
India is very scared of Pakistan tactical weapon. They have no match for those weapon. US has main concern with small tactical ones.
 

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