JNU is like a land of lotus-eaters, where we have not emerged from the Cold War: Makarand Paranjape

[Joe Shearer]

Have never heard of it,( as my knowledge about WB politics is very limited)....... Now back to the point you mentioned about left as an issue, I do not think they are an issue anymore, and their ideology has been out dated, and they themselves knows this......They are finding ways to change it, and they do not want to be called a Kattan chaya (black tea), Parippu vada (dal vada) Dinesh Beedi (country sigar) party anymore......

But they have not changed their outlook, last week also there was a murder attempt by them (which is regular thing between them and RSS in kerala)

I am ignoring the part you mentioned joe sir, as he will defend his point when he finds time......

There's nothing to defend. I've always opposed the politics of violence, and the violence exercised by the CPI(M), the CPI(ML) and its various splinters and the RSS-led Sangh Parivar, the ghastly rule of Akhilesh Yadav in UP, the azaadi seekers in Kashmir are all equally condemnable.

I loathe violence.

 

[Infinity]

I think you should consider this, political violence exists where left parties exist. Where they do not have considerable presence in India, political violence is very low.

Your picking on RSS is plain incorrect (i hope not dishonest) interpretation. Congress, TMC and those who wanted to leave communist parties have also got into violence with them. The common factor its communists, you know the guys who are the champions of azadi, freedom of speech and democracy now?

Political Violence better than communal violence where ever BJP exist..................and in Kerala Context RSS too act no better than goons

 

[Stag112]

Political Violence better than communal violence where ever BJP exist..................and in Kerala Context RSS too act no better than goons

If BJP was the torch bearer of secularism then your post would be valid. BJP gets their more than fair share of criticism, many a time unfair - like the completely bogus church attacks in Delhi, or the church attack and rape in west bengal where perps were bangladeshi.

The left however gets a free pass. They are claiming to be peaceful democratic supporters of free speech. FACTS are completely different. Their ideology is inherently anti democratic and their record in India and globally even abhorrent. That was the point I was making.

I suppose criticizing any party that claims to be "secular" automatically makes me a hindu terrorist

 

[911]

Political Violence better than communal violence where ever BJP exist..................and in Kerala Context RSS too act no better than goons

Country's progress is more important that religion preference. But who can explain this to Hindu haters, Congress supporters.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Haha I have been saying the exact same things all along, glad people are putting these arguments out in the media now.

Suffice to say, we have infiltrated the Kremlin on the Yamuna.

Thanks...
This is getting crazier with each passing day. On extreme right are the sanghis and on extreme left are the commies, those who have neutral views are called "sickulars". I have no idea what the centre rightists like me will be called?
Makarand Paranjape's speech on nationalism was praise worthy but Kanhiaya's response had poverty of thoughts.
India is going through tough times, never before have i seen such large scale manipulation of collective thinking in my country.
Communists are a dying force but sanghis have gained strength, and it has become so hard to differentiate between the good and bad.
They say "there's a storm before a rainbow"... waiting for the rainbow to appear.

No. These are not tough times at all. The fossilized remains of the Leftist Terror is being removed. Not by Sanghis, or Centrists. But by the vast majority of all Indians. You cannot have neutral values on certain core concepts of nationhood. Either way, one stands on one side. And this has got little to do with secularism.

It is a pity that the bankruptcy of the Indian political parties have ensured that BJP has got the monopoly on patriotic discourse in this country. But that is not it's fault as INC, Left etc parties were proudly hashtagging #Iamantinational.

 

[Levina]

INC, Left etc parties were proudly hashtagging #Iamantinational.

By hash tagging themselves as anti nationals they have finally come out in the open.

You cannot have neutral values on certain core concepts of nationhood.

Agreed.
I saw some hard core leftists in Kerala disappointed after JNU incident.
If not anything, pro-nationals have become more vociferous than ever.
I think #IamAntiNational backfired.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

By hash tagging themselves as anti nationals they have finally come out in the open.

Agreed.
I saw some hard core leftists in Kerala disappointed after JNU incident.
If not anything, pro-nationals have become more vociferous than ever.
I think #IamAntiNational bakfired.

And that is a good thing. I appreciate honesty. The credibility is getting lower.

I am witnessing the wholesale conversion of the fence sitters to the nationalist camp. This is good. But it is becoming a monopoly of the BJP. Not a very ideal scenario. Regardless of political differences, all parties should have some basic sense of nationalism.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

I am witnessing the wholesale conversion of the fence sitters to the nationalist camp. This is good. But it is becoming a monopoly of the BJP. Not a very ideal scenario. Regardless of political differences, all parties should have some basic sense of nationalism.

Congress, AAP and other left to centre parties spectacularly shot themselves.
Congress was not like this. Their communal politics aside, this was the party that gave us great politicians. I have no idea who is guiding Rahul and Sonia but they need to be fired.

I hope Congress, AAP and non-left parties are doing this as a means to oppose Modi and BJP. Otherwise the rot that has seeped into our system is too damaging.

 

[Infinity]

Country's progress is more important that religion preference. But who can explain this to Hindu haters, Congress supporters.

Progressive state like Gujarat at No:5

Kerala, TN, Karnataka top good governance list: report | The Indian Express

Country's progress is more important that religion preference. But who can explain this to Hindu haters, Congress supporters.

Progressive state like Gujarat at No:5

Kerala, TN, Karnataka top good governance list: report | The Indian Express

 

[raktaka]

Progressive state like Gujarat at No:5

Kerala, TN, Karnataka top good governance list: report | The Indian Express

You do realize Modi is PM of India and not the CM of Gujarat, right ?

Anandiben Patel is the CM of Gujarat.

Political Violence better than communal violence where ever BJP exist..................and in Kerala Context RSS too act no better than goons

LOL... EPIC FAIL.

There is almost ZERO communal violence where ever BJP exist.

Almost ALL communal violence is from places BJP is not in power. BENGAL, UP, BIHAR, ASSAM, KERALA

In Kerala context, christian church is no better than a red light area considering the amount of Nuns who have been sexually exploited and kids raped.

Latest News - Former Kerala nun discloses sexuality in convents

 

[mooppan]

You do realize Modi is PM of India and not the CM of Gujarat, right ?

Anandiben Patel is the CM of Gujarat.



LOL... EPIC FAIL.

There is almost ZERO communal violence where ever BJP exist.

Almost ALL communal violence is from places BJP is not in power. BENGAL, UP, BIHAR, ASSAM, KERALA

In Kerala context, christian church is no better than a red light area considering the amount of Nuns who have been sexually exploited and kids raped.

Latest News - Former Kerala nun discloses sexuality in convents

What about Gujarat??..lol..
for pedo and rapings-we do have examples like asram bapu and nithyanand...

 

[Infinity]

Country's progress is more important that religion preference. But who can explain this to Hindu haters, Congress supporters.

Progressive state like Gujarat at No:5

Kerala, TN, Karnataka top good governance list: report | The Indian Express

You do realize Modi is PM of India and not the CM of Gujarat, right ?

Latest News - Former Kerala nun discloses sexuality in convents

I am Not defending Catholics but feel good to hear that Hindu religion is free from all this mess

 

[raktaka]

I am Not defending Catholics but feel good to hear that Hindu religion is free from all this mess

Well RSS is certainly free from all this mess.

So does that not mean RSS is FAR better than the Christian Church ?


The Truth shall set you Free.

 

[mooppan]

Well RSS is certainly free from all this mess.

So does that not mean RSS is FAR better than the Christian Church ?


The Truth shall set you Free.

Taking some random incidents won't work...
If we look on this forum,news relating dalit rapes,killing Muslims for eating beef or news relating pedo babas,or calling to rape dead bodies of Muslim females are coming on daily or weekly basis..Bad apples every where..But unlike you we are not that cheap to take these random incidents as an example to generalise a whole community or religion as........may be we are not tolerant like you...

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Taking some random incidents won't work...
If we look on this forum,news relating dalit rapes,killing Muslims for eating beef or news relating pedo babas,or calling to rape dead bodies of Muslim females are coming on daily or weekly basis..Bad apples every where..But unlike you we are not that cheap to take these random incidents as an example to generalise a whole community or religion as........may be we are not tolerant like you...

There you go..

Hindu Killed in Broad Daylight in Mysore for Stopping Illegal Construction of Mosque; Mysore Tense - Satyameva Jayate

look at the silence of sickulars mate.
It's almost as if it's a conspiracy eh