JL-2 is now more advanced than D5

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well, China's current solid fuel propellant (2854 N*S / kg) is now more powerful than NEPE (2658 N*S / kg) which is used by D5.

 

[258963147harry]

Well, China's current solid fuel propellant (2854 N*S / kg) is now more powerful than NEPE (2658 N*S / kg) which is used by D5.

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[ChineseTiger1986]

cant understand chines pls translate

first column: Adhesives
second column: Energetic Plasticizers
third column: Hydrogenating Agent
fourth column: Energetic Additives
fifth column: Metal Fuel
sixth column: Theoretical Thrust Ratio
seventh column: Status

 

[Luca1]

first column: Adhesives
second column: Energetic Plasticizers
third column: Hydrogenating Agent
fourth column: Energetic Additives
fifth column: Metal Fuel
sixth column: Theoretical Thrust Ratio
seventh column: Status

How does anything you post make jl2 more advance than d5?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

How does anything you post make jl2 more advance than d5?

Because the solid fuel propellant is more powerful.

BTW, the propellant of D5 was designed back in the 1980s, and the US didn't develop the new SLBM after the deployment of D5.

So don't be surprised that China's current propellant is better than what the US had designed back in the 1980s.

 

[Luca1]

Because the solid fuel propellant is more powerful.

BTW, the propellant of D5 was designed back in the 1980s, and the US didn't keep developing the new SLBM after the deployment of D5.

So don't be surprised that China's current propellant is better than what the US had designed back in the 1980s.

Ok.. But this does not make jl2 more advanced than d5.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ok.. But this does not make jl2 more advanced than d5.

To be precise, JL-2 may have a better solid fuel engine because of being designed later.

About the inertial guidance, D5 may keep getting upgrading as well, so that may not be the case.

About the GPS integration, GPS right now has the global coverage, while Beidou hasn't finished its global coverage yet, so D5 has a clear advantage here.

 

[Luca1]

To be precise, JL-2 may have a better solid fuel engine because of being designed later.

About the inertial guidance, D5 may keep getting upgrading as well, so that may not be the case.

About the GPS integration, GPS right now has the global coverage, while Beidou hasn't finished its global coverage yet, so D5 has a clear advantage here.

Finally d5 has over 100 continuous successful launches. Jl2 is still new and even PLA regard this as a stopgap missile, not a real mass production missile.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Finally d5 has over 100 continuous successful launches. Jl2 is still new and even PLA regard this as a stopgap missile, not a real mass production missile.

D5 has 150 successful launches spree, and it is by far the most reliable SLBM in the current record.

JL-2 has started testing since the early 2000s, while between the period of 2006-2008, JL-2 had experienced numerous failed underwater tests. Until 2010, it started to look better. By 2013, JL-2 was officially deployed. So it is mass produced, otherwise the Type 094 won't carry it during the strategic patrolling.

We have probably done several tests in last year, and one test in last month which was confirmed by the US media.

To make a solid fuel intercontinental SLBM isn't an easy task. Otherwise, the UK wouldn't give up, and France is getting haunted by numerous glitches, while Russia is still in progress.

 

[Luca1]

D5 has 150 successful launches spree, and it is by far the most reliable SLBM in the current record.

JL-2 has started testing since the early 2000s, while between the period of 2006-2008, JL-2 had experienced numerous failed underwater tests. Until 2010, it started to look better. By 2013, JL-2 was officially deployed.

We have probably done several tests in last year, and one test in last month which was confirmed by the US media.

To make a solid fuel intercontinental SLBM isn't an easy task. Otherwise, the UK wouldn't give up, and France is getting haunted by numerous glitches, while Russia is still in progress.

Doesn't french and Russia has solid fuel slbm?

How about your superpower neighbor across the Himalayas?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Doesn't french and Russia has solid fuel slbm?

How about your superpower neighbor across the Himalayas?

The M51 has experienced a lot of problems, and France is still trying to figure out these problems.

Russia once had the SS-N-20, but this technology was left in Ukraine after the collapse of USSR, so they had to redo everything from scratch. Hence, they made the new Bulava, and it is now making the good progress, so it may soon become operational.

The UK has completely given up this hard task.

India is still a toddler, so it is not worthy to compare with the P5 nations.

 

[Luca1]

The M51 has experienced a lot of problems, and France is still trying to figure out these problems.

Russia once had the SS-N-20, but this technology was left in Ukraine after the collapse of USSR, so they had to redo everything from scratch. Hence, they made the new Bulava, and it is now making the good progress, so it may soon become operational.

The UK has completely given up this hard task.

India is still a toddler, so it is not worthy to compare with the P5 nations.

M51 had one failed launch. Bull a clearly has problems. But it should be ready soon. Has the JL-2 problems all figured out?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

M51 had one failed launch. Bull a clearly has problems. But it should be ready soon. Has the JL-2 problems all figured out?

Yes, as I said, we had experienced numerous problems during the period of 2006-2008, but now all these problems were sorted out.

The M51 has experienced some problems in 2013, but these problems haven't been sorted out yet.

The final exam for a pre-deployed SLBM is about 5 or 6 continuous tests without a failure.

If you have succeeded the first 5 tests, but failed in the last test, then you have to sort out all the problems and to restart a new exam.

Our staffs were all crying when they just failed the last test, since they just missed the last final step for becoming successful.

But this is about the national security, so there is no accommodation as you have to follow the rules even you feel 100% frustrated.

 

[Luca1]

Yes, as I said, we had experienced numerous problems during the period of 2006-2008, but now all these problems were sorted out.

The M51 has experienced some problems in 2013, but these problems haven't been sorted out yet.

The final exam for a pre-deployed SLBM is about 5 or 6 continuous tests without a failure.

If you have succeeded the first 5 tests, but failed in the last test, then you have to sort out all the problems and to restart a new exam.

Our staffs were all crying when they just failed the last test, since they just missed the last final step for becoming successful.

But this is about the national security, so there is no accommodation as you have to follow the rules even you feel 100% frustrated.

So JL-2 just failed the last test? When did that happened?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So JL-2 just failed the last test? When did that happened?

Probably during the period between 2006-2008.

Here was a successful final exam in 2010, a flawless 6/6 exam. You can also read from the Pentagon's report as they briefly mentioned the numerous successful tests of JL-2 since 2010. That's why they believe it is ready to be operational.

JL2 sub-lanuching ICBM succeeded in tests on December,26th,2010