Jinnah insisted on partition, declined offer to become India PM

[duhastmish]

We don't claim to be a secular country, you dolt!

But you(India) do!

never mind. you can always band rules for enemy.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

You idiot. Pakistan does not claim to be a secular country.

India claims to be a secular country.

Counter my arguments, instead of farting garbarge here.

If India is a secular country, then a Muslim should be able to become the Prime Minister of India.

Pakistan claims to be an Islamic Republic. Why should we let a non-Muslim rule us?

That would be like asking a communist to be the leader of USA.

No one is asking for a non muslim PM in Pakistan.People wants minorities to have equal employment opportunities, representation in the ministries and in the higher government sectors, a better economic condition and literacy rate thats it.

 

[Hindustani78]

So then why does Pakistan have more Muslims than Hindustan? Or better yet, why are there so many Muhajirs in Pakistan?

Anyway, Muslims and non-Muslims of the region are simply different people. We simply cannot coexist without one of us making major compromises.

Hindustani Muslims are more compare to Pakistan Muslims in term of Population and even if to check during the 1920's, 1930's,1940's in United India , Hindustani Aryans were in majority.

And regarding the immigration of Urdu Speaking to Pakistan from certain princely states and from the British knighthood, they are not more than 4% population of present Pakistan.

 

[newb3e]

Thankyou Jinnah!

 

[Hindustani78]

Now that is true, Jinnah was offered Prime Ministership of a United India, but Jinnah declined that.
Nehru took the Prime Minister job instead.

Jinnah was more concerned about the political rights of the Muslim community than than political power. lol.

Another slap on the Indian people.

Good thing Indians have admitted it now.

By the way it is India which is illegally occupying Kashmir. Pakistan has all the right in the world to be in Kashmir.

Majority of Indians were more for united India and all wanted for the national integration, Its true that British and Aga Khan funded Muslim league. Aga Khan was head of Nazeeri sect who were having closer links to the Safavid Empire and even if to check the roots of the founders of Muslim League which was funded by Aga Khan and Britishers then they were Nazeeri and majority of Muslims of Indian Sub Continent were more linked to the Arabian tribes and to the Ikhwanis, wahabbi and ottomani movement which were for larger unity of the ancient tribes of ancient civilization.

This was a report sent by the British embassy in Moscow to the Foreign Office, London. This telegram is dated February 19, 1948, a secret and sinister agency of the British Crown called Force 136. one of Gandhi’s killers, Narayan Apte, was an agent of a British secret organisation called Force 136.Nathuram Godse’s used 9mm Beretta gun.

Ismailis in Persia and Syria prefer the other, by the name of Nizar.

In 1818 one of them is granted the title Aga Khan by the shah of Persia.

Nizari become a separate and extremely alarming sect. From the late 11th century they begin seizing territory in northern Persia. They are known to history as the Assassins.

Assassins to the Nizari Ismailis who become promiment in the 11th century.


The Assassins first show their hand when they begin to seize strongholds in Persia in the late 11th century, particularly the almost impregnable fortress of Alamut. In the 12th century they also acquire bases in Syria.

Foremost among them are the Seljuk Turks and the caliphs in Baghdad (the Assassins murder two caliphs) Most eccentrically of all, they make two attempts on the life of Saladin.

the Assassins survive in Persia as the Nizari Ismaili, In 1818 one of them is granted the title Aga Khan by the shah of Persia.

Ismaili community numbered, in Syria, Iran, Pakistan, India.

When Ismail 1st seized Baghdad in 1508 AD, Sunni Muslims were massacred. The tombs of the Abbasid Caliphs were destroyed. Even the tombs of the jurist Imam Abu Hanifah and Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani were not spared and were literally desecrated.


During the reign of the Safavid Shah Ismail I, Gilani's shrine was destroyed however in 1535 the Ottoman Sultan Suleiman had a turba (dome) built over the shrine, which exists to this day.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why is this even being discussed? It makes NO difference at all WHATSOEVER. Pakistan will continue to exist and CANNOT be reversed. The status quo, pre-August the 14th 1947 CAN NEVER exist again. Discussing the schematics of partition is like discussing what would have been if the dinosaurs had not become extinct. Pointless to the core.

 

[Hamza913]

Hindustani Muslims are more compare to Pakistan Muslims in term of Population and even if to check during the 1920's, 1930's,1940's in United India , Hindustani Aryans were in majority.

And regarding the immigration of Urdu Speaking to Pakistan from certain princely states and from the British knighthood, they are not more than 4% population of present Pakistan.

Incorrect, there are more Muslim Pakistanis than Muslim Hindustanis.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-muslim-populations.html

Immigrants from Hindustan (excluding people from the Punjab and Kashmir) make up roughly 8% of Pakistanis.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html

 

[Hindustani78]

Incorrect, there are more Muslim Pakistanis than Muslim Hindustanis.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-muslim-populations.html

Immigrants from Hindustan (excluding people from the Punjab and Kashmir) make up roughly 8% of Pakistanis.

Population wise Hindustan is having the largest musalman population.

Hindustanis in majority were against immigration to regions of British rule.

In 1953, the Ameer of Bahawalpur represented Pakistan at the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II.

 

[Kaniska]

It is our f*** up history written by commies that portray Mr Jinah in bad light... Rather than criticizing him...we should adore him for separating Muslim people from India...Otherwise...India would have been another Syria by today..

 

[Dubious]

Why is this even being discussed? It makes NO difference at all WHATSOEVER. Pakistan will continue to exist and CANNOT be reversed. The status quo, pre-August the 14th 1947 CANNOT be reversed. Discussing the schematics of partition is like discussing what would have been if the dinosaurs had not become extinct. Pointless to the core.

every now and then someone or another gets a seizure and opens such a thread...I stopped visiting except to either read the articles or the reply...rarely both

 

[Hindustani78]

The Man Is An Idiot He Is Saying That Most Muslims Were Against Partition And He Gave The Reference Only A Few Known Communists Like Ismat Chughtai etc.Conveniently Forgetting That The 1945 Elections Were A Referendum As All India Muslims League Swept All Muslims Seats In The Centre and Also Formed Governments In Sindh and Bengal

In India all minorities including Muslim can hold any post in India, where as your country treats its minorities like second class citizens, do you even constitutionally allow any of your christian or a Hindu or a Sikh to prime minister, president or even army chief?

Air Chief Marshal Idris Hasan Latif was born in Hyderabad, Telangana in 1923. His father was Hasan Latif, chief engineer of the erstwhile Hyderabad State.

Air Chief Marshal Latif was commissioned into the Royal Indian Air Force in 1942.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

So then why does Pakistan have more Muslims than Hindustan? Or better yet, why are there so many Muhajirs in Pakistan?
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Hindu populated areas like Orissa, Bombay , bihar, madras, UP, central provinces voted for Muslim League for creation of Pakistan even Hindu majority provinces knew they would not be part of Pakistan.
Jinnah said we have either divided india or destroyed india. No doubt riots started to happen. Many migrated, but still many remained in India too.

 

[Hindustani78]

Hindu populated areas like Orissa, Bombay , bihar, madras, UP, central provinces voted for Muslim League for creation of Pakistan even Hindu majority provinces knew they would not be part of Pakistan.
Jinnah said we have either divided india or destroyed india. No doubt riots started to happen. Many migrated, but still many remained in India too.

Those elections were for governance and that was not introduce by the Britishers.

 

[Hamza913]

Population wise Hindustan is having the largest musalman population

No it's not, I already proved that statement wrong. Indonesia has the worlds largest Muslim population, then Pakistan, and then Hindustan. By 2030, Pakistan is estimated to also overtake Indonesia:

https://www.dawn.com/news/602025

 

[MultaniGuy]

Population wise Hindustan is having the largest musalman population.

Hindustanis in majority were against immigration to regions of British rule.

In 1953, the Ameer of Bahawalpur represented Pakistan at the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II.

Wrong again! Indonesia has the world's largest population of Muslims in the world. Then Pakistan has the world's second largest population of Muslims. India has the third world largest population of Muslims in the world.