JH-7. China's first domestic combat jet equipped with multi mode look down shoot down pulse doppler radar

[White and Green with M/S]

Okay but what does this have to do with JH-7?

Sent fighter jets for intercept

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Sent fighter jets for intercept

F-18 and F-35 are not built for air superiority. Chinese navy's J-11BH fighter jets which are way bigger are sufficient air cover for JH-7.

 

[ARMalik]

Wasn't there someone on this Forum called Khafee who had spread rumors of PAF/PN already having JH-7? And also F-16s, and J-16 and what not.

Irrespective, PN needs a DEDICATED AIR FORCE armed with JH-7 URGENTLY !

 

[White and Green with M/S]

F-18 and F-35 are not built for air superiority. Chinese navy's J-11BH fighter jets which are way bigger are sufficient air cover for JH-7.

You admit it or not both have capability of intercepting intruding enemy fighter at long ranges, EVER HEARD TERMS MULTIROLE FIGHTERS, THAT CAPABLE TO DO ALMOST ANY MISSIONS AIR SUPERIORTY TO SEAD AND DEAD MISSIONS

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

You admit it or not both have capability of intercepting intruding enemy fighter at long ranges, EVER HEARD TERMS MULTIROLE FIGHTERS, THAT CAPABLE TO DO ALMOST ANY MISSIONS AIR SUPERIORTY TO SEAD AND DEAD MISSIONS

Multi role fighters don't do as well in air to air compared to air superiority / fleet air defense fighters. F-18 is weaker than F-14 and F-15 in terms of air to air.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Multi role fighters don't do as well in air to air compared to air superiority / fleet air defense fighters. F-18 is weaker than F-14 and F-15 in terms of air to air.

AND TELL ME WHY MOST OF THE WORLD MAJOR AIRFOCE DEVELOPING/USING MULTIROLE JETS TO REPLACE SINGLE MISSION AIR SUPERIORTY AND FLEET LIKE F-35 REPLACING F-15/F-16/A-10, Russian Su SERIES OF JET IS ALSO BECOME MULIROLE AFTER UPGRADES LIKE SU-30SM, YOUR J-11 IS ALSO MULTIROLE JET DEFENSE JET AND J-15 is not FLEET AIR DEFENSE JET AS YOU ASSUME BUT IS MULTIROLE JET IT CAN BE USED STRIKE/ANTI SHIP MISSIONS/SEAD AND DEAD MISSIONS

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

AND TELL ME WHY MOST OF THE WORLD MAJOR AIRFOCE DEVELOPING/USING MULTIROLE JETS TO REPLACE SINGLE MISSION AIR SUPERIORTY AND FLEET LIKE F-35 REPLACING F-15/F-16/A-10, Russian Su SERIES OF JET IS ALSO BECOME MULIROLE AFTER UPGRADES LIKE SU-30SM, YOUR J-11 IS ALSO MULTIROLE JET DEFENSE JET AND J-15 is not FLEET AIR DEFENSE JET AS YOU ASSUME BUT IS MULTIROLE JET IT CAN BE USED STRIKE/ANTI SHIP MISSIONS/SEAD AND DEAD MISSIONS

There have been a grudge when F-14 was retired. USN pilots loved F-14 for its strong air to air capability. F-18 don't have F-14's strong air to air capability. Chinese uses J-20 for air to air only. Air superiority fighters are alive and well. Only smaller planes like J-10 and F-35 are multi role.

 

[airmarshal]

SAMs aren't accurate at very long ranges. At most 100 to 200 km. Plus they can be jammed by EW planes like Chinese navy's Y-8 EW variant.

I dont how capable is Y-8 but it looks beautiful.

Why PAF does not consider JH-7? Is it because its twin engined? It looks like a capable ground attack aircraft and can be a good replacement for Mirage.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I dont how capable is Y-8 but it looks beautiful.

Why PAF does not consider JH-7? Is it because its twin engined? It looks like a capable ground attack aircraft and can be a good replacement for Mirage.

JH-7 is a big plane. FB-111 sized. It is expensive to service. Pakistan uses small planes.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

There have been a grudge when F-14 was retired. USN pilots loved F-14 for its strong air to air capability. F-18 don't have F-14's strong air to air capability. Chinese uses J-20 for air to air only. Air superiority fighters are alive and well. Only smaller planes like J-10 and F-35 are multi role.

Single mission jets are always expensive to operate as compare to multirole jets, How do you know F-18 pilots are not enjoying F-18 has better avionic, does F-14 has better avionics than F-18, F-18 have AESA, Does F-14 had AESA, agility/maneuverability for both jets are same, thrust to weight ratio/lift to drag ratio is almost same (F-14 had a slight advantage), only top speed are not same for both jets but its not important because in war accelerations are matters not top speed

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Single mission jets are always expensive to operate as compare to multirole jets, How do you know F-18 pilots are not enjoying F-18 has better avionic, does F-14 has better avionics than F-18, F-18 have AESA, Does F-14 had AESA, agility/maneuverability for both jets are same, thrust to weight ratio/lift to drag ratio is almost same (F-14 had a slight advantage), only top speed are not same for both jets but its not important because in war accelerations are matters not top speed

F-14D of the 1980s was superior to F-18C of the 1980s in air to air. F-14 with AESA is better than F-18 with AESA. Bigger radar means better radar range and better BVR.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

JH-7 is a big plane. FB-111 sized. It is expensive to service. Pakistan uses small planes.

In past we used the big plane like B-57, so its not problem for PAF to induct JH-7 for PAF

 

[Beast]

Great for the late 1970s and upgraded to maybe the late 2020s at best. But like the tornado a design that is no longer suitable for tomorrow’s battlefield.

Tornado are notorious to maintain due to the complicated swing wings. JH-7 fixed sweep wings give good low speed handling while without the high maintenance geometry variable wings.

Couple with modern avionics , running on turbofan, large fuselage , a lot of space for further upgrade, long range and high payload. It is essential for current warfare and will serve it's purpose well.

Similar size with F-111. Bigger than J-16. Equipped with EOTS pod. Mainly used for anti ship strike.

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JH-7A is no bigger than J-16. They are about the similar size.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

In past we used the big plane like B-57, so its not problem for PAF to induct JH-7 for PAF

Past is past. Now is now. Don't compare apples with oranges.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

F-14D of the 1980s was superior to F-18C of the 1980s in air to air. F-14 with AESA is better than F-18 with AESA. Bigger radar means better radar range and better BVR.

When F-14 were operational F-18 jobs were to complement F-14, F-14 is looking for Russian/Soviet anti ship missiles carriers at long range whereas F-18C is looking Soviet fighter jets

and F-14 was very maintenance prone jet because of variable geometry wing design as well as variable intake design, and USN rarely upgrades F-14 and F-14 reached its airframe age limit 40 year in 2006 that why USN retired F-14

Past is past. Now is now. Don't compare apples with oranges.

We have the capability to maintain large and twin engine jets, we recently retired F-6, that's my point