JF17s For New Afghan Air Force?

[SQ8]

One scenario Pakistan can explore is leasing Afghanistan's bases to house some PA and PAF assets, but that would depend on whether Rawalpindi still believes in 'strategic depth'. But Lt. Gen (Retd) Tariq Khan said that idea lived and died with Gen Mirza Aslam Beg. So, I guess not? (@SQ8)

Ideally there is no need - the strategic depth can be had by developing Samungli, Peshawar and another base towards the Afghan border. As far as Afghanistan does, the original want of free access through the Wakhan corridor is really the focus that is needed. The rest is not Pakistan’s problem per se although those blackhawks would have been very useful instead of now ending up in Uzbekistan.

Useless thread and waste of bandwidth. Let me add another stupid statement: Uncle Sam is going to give Taliban F-22.

Its odd when people living in America openly propose arming groups against it(unless using proxy IPs) - the FBI would definitely be interested to know about such folks.

 

[ghazi52]

Useless thread and waste of bandwidth. Let me add another stupid statement: Uncle Sam is going to give Taliban F-22.

I agree.

 

[jupiter2007]

Ideally there is no need - the strategic depth can be had by developing Samungli, Peshawar and another base towards the Afghan border. As far as Afghanistan does, the original want of free access through the Wakhan corridor is really the focus that is needed. The rest is not Pakistan’s problem per se although those blackhawks would have been very useful instead of now ending up in Uzbekistan.

Its odd when people living in America openly propose arming groups against it(unless using proxy IPs) - the FBI would definitely be interested to know about such folks.

Don’t you know there are no permanent friends and enemies, there are only interests. Great Example is Taliban and Russia.

 

[Thorough Pro]

They ended up in Uzbekistan because that is what the instructions were to the Afghan pilots. They knew what was coming and planned it ahead. They did not want their tech to fall in our hands.

Ideally there is no need - the strategic depth can be had by developing Samungli, Peshawar and another base towards the Afghan border. As far as Afghanistan does, the original want of free access through the Wakhan corridor is really the focus that is needed. The rest is not Pakistan’s problem per se although those blackhawks would have been very useful instead of now ending up in Uzbekistan.

Its odd when people living in America openly propose arming groups against it(unless using proxy IPs) - the FBI would definitely be interested to know about such folks.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

It's very simple..that will be possible the day Afghanistan and Pakistan become a confederation. Its far away at the moment so no point to discuss it.

 

[araz]

It took America 20 years to build an army against the Taliban and it took 9 days for the Talibans to defeat them. Allah is with them brother. Afghan Taliban are not like those Namak Harams and not our enemy. TTP and India are our enemies.

The US defeat in Afghanistan was a given the day they stepped in to Afghanistan. An aimless war with no possible outcome of any benefit to the USA and an adverse relationship with the population who do not want to be ruled by anyone. The only money made has been by the massive adms conglomerate at the expense of the local population. However the topic is an even more useless one. The integrity of Afghan state depends not on any air force but on getting the state running whatever little trade they have going and developjng the infrastructure they need to develop. Its geopolitical position allows it time to develop in this manner as its threat perception is low.
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It's very simple..that will be possible the day Afghanistan and Pakistan become a confederation. Its far away at the moment so no point to discuss it.

Do not bite off more than what you can chew. Leave the Afghans alone and concentrate on developing Pakistan.
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[Iron Shrappenel]

Not 10 years but max 3-4 years they will have functional air force including trained pilots. Why I predict 3 years is because they themselves will attempt to hasten.. Pakistan is willing to meet that demand but they will have to give us something in return such as stragetic depth

It's not about their hastiness but our image.... Let them establish themselves... Prove their leadership and administration then and only then should an offer be made

 

[casual]

Afghanistan is surrounded by SCO countries. Why is it in a hurry to buy fighters?
It should invest first in education and then in infrastructure.
If the Taliban must want to buy fighters, I think K8, JL9 and L15 are better choices.

Afghanistan has internal insurgency issue. JF17 would be the best choice for it's strike capabilities which K8, JL9 and L15 all lack.

 

[Imran Khan]

what is the benefit only jf-17 ? they also need few shaheen missiles too

 

[MH.Yang]

Afghanistan has internal insurgency issue. JF17 would be the best choice for it's strike capabilities which K8, JL9 and L15 all lack.

Afghanistan must first have qualified pilots to fly JF17. So they should buy a training plane first.
If Taliban need to fight the insurgency, they can consider Turkey's TB2, which is very cheap, only $1 million per aircraft, and they don't need pilots. Or Taliban can buy China's second-hand JH7, which is cheaper than TB2, and its bomb carrying capacity is 10t, but you need qualified pilots.

 

[arjunk]

It took America 20 years to build an army against the Taliban and it took 9 days for the Talibans to defeat them. Allah is with them brother. Afghan Taliban are not like those Namak Harams and not our enemy. TTP and India are our enemies.

The Americans defeated the Taliban just as quickly in 2001. The Taliban defeated the ANA. The US military could occupy Afghanistan, turn it into its 51st state and nuke it into orbit if it wanted.

The objective of the war was to make money, not do any of that. The US has capitalised on yet another war at the expense of a Muslim country and fools around the world are acting like it's some victory for Afghanistan.

 

[casual]

Afghanistan must first have qualified pilots to fly JF17. So they should buy a training plane first.
If Taliban need to fight the insurgency, they can consider Turkey's TB2, which is very cheap, only $1 million per aircraft, and they don't need pilots. Or Taliban can buy China's second-hand JH7, which is cheaper than TB2, and its bomb carrying capacity is 10t, but you need qualified pilots.

you realize JF17 also has 2 seater version suitable for training use right?

 

[Marker]

So far, so good.

Only Allah subhana hu wataala knows what is coming in future.

No nation or tribe is/was perfect in this world. Only Allah's Will chose Bani Israel and then discarded after many failed trials. Then Arabs were chosen to spread the true Words of Allah subhana hu wataala.

At present unexpected are happening - taking control of 652,864 square kilometers (252,072 sq mi) in less than a month by mere 75000 taliban warriors is nothing less than a miracle. A nation under captivity and continuous foreign aggression for more than three decades, was able to disintegrate one super power and shattered the economy of the other, ensuring both to evacuate shamefully.

Now the new Afghanistan needs to control their economy. bring peace, law and order, justice legal system, housing infrastructure, roads and rail roads, communication infrastructure, industrial and mining hubs.

Furthermore they need to purge out all terrorist out fits working on behest of foreign spy networks against neighbouring countries and their own country.

Building military is not an immediate priority. Instead, they should focus on economy, internal security, a legal and justice system acceptable to the whole Afghan nation.

 

[Foinikas]

What are the prospects of Pakistan selling new Government in Afghanistan JF17? As they build a new economy?

Edit: This thread seeks to project scenario where we fast forward 3-5 years.

What makes you think they will build a new economy? Did the old Taliban regime thrive?

 

[Cool_Soldier]

India should carry on it gifts to Afghanistan .Now India should give some Tejas to this country.
as they already have Indian weapons such as planes and helicopters.