JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[HRK]

Which squadron marking is that?
@HRK @Pakistan Space Agency

No. 16 Black Panther

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[denel]

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Looking a lot like M2k 2 seater in terms of sillouette.

 

[blinder]

I think:
2P60 to 2P62 NAF-720 to NAF-722

2P63/64: These may have been allocated to two of the following four:
17-601 = CAC built BC0001
0002 = CAC built (likely BC0002), first 02, later to 0002, Chengdu test a/c
19-602 = CAC built BC0003, first 03, later to PAF
19-603 = CAC built BC0004, possibly 2P63B?
19-604 = 1st PAC built 2P64B?
(with built I mean: final assembly location!)

And then onward straightforward (2P68B/19-607 was the 4th PAC built):
#605 to #626 would be BC0005 to BC0027 2P65B to 2P86B
That BC number is the Chengdu nomenclature for the production (like FC10245 on JF-17 17-245, FC1 is the Chinese name, and BC is the Chendu code for the twin seat model)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I was talking to a former PAF pilot about the induction of JF17Bs and speculated that they were for strike or wild weasel roles as PAF from day one maintained that its pilots didnt need trainers and they could transition from the simulators to real jet directly if they already had flying experience from other jets.
there was a change of mind as other customers didnt share such confidence or thinking. acquiring / manufacturing 14 jets solely for training didnt make sense and it was clear they were meant for specialist roles although former PAF leadership put its foot down saying there was no such plans for JF17 (few years back) but it seems that once those roadblocking seniors were retired and safely away from influencing the JF17 program then the JF17B plan took its shape and is quickly evolving that looks like a U turn from the original plans.

here is a video where a former pilot is interviewed and interview revolves around same discussion we have had on this forum. its a coincidence that some parts are what I had in mind.

 

[MastanKhan]

I was talking to a former PAF pilot about the induction of JF17Bs and speculated that they were for strike or wild weasel roles as PAF from day one maintained that its pilots didnt need trainers and they could transition from the simulators to real jet directly if they already had flying experience from other jets.
there was a change of mind as other customers didnt share such confidence or thinking. acquiring / manufacturing 14 jets solely for training didnt make sense and it was clear they were meant for specialist roles although former PAF leadership put its foot down saying there was no such plans for JF17 (few years back) but it seems that once those roadblocking seniors were retired and safely away from influencing the JF17 program then the JF17B plan took its shape and is quickly evolving that looks like a U turn from the original plans.

here is a video where a former pilot is interviewed and interview revolves around same discussion we have had on this forum. its a coincidence that some parts are what I had in mind.

Hi,

At 6:00 minutes---there is some blockbuster information---@Irfan Baloch.

 

[Vortex]

I just couldn't help it... Honestly, I tried. I really did. I thought this bloody year is coming to an end in like 6hrs, lets just let it slide, but what the hell.

You guys familiar with the term Burn Notice. Well, this carries an entirely different meaning.

To Indian Members, is there anyway you guys would like to support this hag with A2A Refueling part in the end. She just opened the doors for her to become a meme-tag for 2021.

@araz @airomerix @BHarwana @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Raider 21 @waz @Windjammer @dbc @Akh1112 @aliyusuf @Dalit @GriffinsRule @HRK @Mirage Battle Commander @Nasr @PAKISTANFOREVER @Path-Finder @Riz @Stealth @StormBreaker @TheTallGuy @Trango Towers @White and Green with M/S @Zarvan @ziaulislam @PakSword @PradoTLC @khail007 @ZedZeeshan @Crystal-Clear


P.S.: 6hrs to go for my PAF 2021 Video Edit.

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[maverick1977]

JF-17B Is Carrying Two 250kg Fuel Air Explosive Bombs.


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What kinda Air to surface missile is it, what fuel and what range?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hi,

At 6:00 minutes---there is some blockbuster information---@Irfan Baloch.

I knew you will pick it up. I was attentive suddenly and replayed the mildly explained comment about the modules attributes and function.

 

[MastanKhan]

I knew you will pick it up. I was attentive suddenly and replayed the mildly explained comment about the modules attributes and function.

Hi,

I just cannot fathom out the intensity of the news at this moment---.

See that is what the german boy does not understand---it is a jigsaw puzzle---bits on news keeps dropping in and then there is massive waterfall of news---. Was he supposed to make that statement---was it intentional---or did it just slip thru---hehehehehe----.

 

[MastanKhan]

I knew you will pick it up. I was attentive suddenly and replayed the mildly explained comment about the modules attributes and function.

Did I ever tell you about Maulivi Abdul Rahman & this movie---?

 

[m52k85]

Hi,

This old man still got it----.

I just cannot fathom out the intensity of the news at this moment---.

See that is what the german boy does not understand---it is a jigsaw puzzle---bits on news keeps dropping in and then there is massive waterfall of news---. Was he supposed to make that statement---was it intentional---or did it just slip thru---hehehehehe----.


Oyai paindoo puttar--tainoon aina eee pata nahin keh eh ki cheez aay

Well if it was unintentional then lets give him a way out, he might have said it as a simpler explanation to "individual TRMs will modulate independently to steer an electronic beam".

Anyway, good catch.

Regarding the intensity of the news, does this mean Rd-93ma follows logically from it? Another implication would be some additional radar range and coverage but I dont see how that would be `blockbuster'.

@Quwa tagging you since you did the story on radars.

 

[m52k85]

What kinda Air to surface missile is it, what fuel and what range?

Not a missile, a bomb. One that contains fuel :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

 

[MastanKhan]

Well if it was unintentional then lets give him a way out, he might have said it as a simpler explanation to "individual TRMs will modulate independently to steer an electronic beam".

Anyway, good catch.

Regarding the intensity of the news, does this mean Rd-93ma follows logically from it? Another implication would be some additional radar range and coverage but I dont see how that would be `blockbuster'.

@Quwa tagging you since you did the story on radars.

Hi,

Wait & watch---.

As for additional radar range---???

When you put the bits and pieces together---that make it a Hop---step & Jump---.

A hop step & jump takes you farther than a jump.