It is the first step towards unity. Not the actual one.
Yes and is he doing the rest of ACTUAL work? And what do you mean by actual work. I typed more in my comment read that in full. You are picking a single sentence in my large comment. If you read the full comment you will get my answer.
Yeah in his seat. When he contested for nation wide election is loose big. That shows his unpopularity.
Yes, he was unpopular than the one who won which is CBK or MR. I meant the support base among UNPers between Ranil and Sajith. Got lost on the initial argument?
What can we do. It is the democracy.
But democracy does not function in SL. You said you do not believe in democracy ne, so why care now? Because you have no other argument to say? Idiot this way you are taking SL to disaster.
MR is not bound to listen to them. MR can reason what is right and what is wrong according to his interests. You can't say because of that MR is stupid.
Of course MR is little stupid and you are more stupid. What matters to us is country’s interests and NOT that idiot MR’s interests. If he is taking WRONG actions based on his own interests that are disadvantageous to the country, then we should kick him out ne? Don’t you see your own arguments fail your initial point?
If MR is working for his own interests how is he suitable for presidency?
And idiot you can worship MR or even lick his feet but at the end MR is not for you, what is left for you is a dis functioning country. Do you want that? I don’t!
However how can we trust those intellectuals?
Because they are trained in that field and well versed in that field. Politicians are not like that. In India, US or in many of the major countries even in Israel matters like defence and foreign relations and economy is handled by experts on that field. Because they know the subject. These people know what needs to be done though they are not elected officials. Ever heard of Purohitha in ancient kingdoms?
Not the ata pass deshapremis and OL failed ministers handling SL economy! How do you trust the ata pass fellows and OL failed fellows for handling complex matters like economy, defence and foreign relations!
If it is not happening in SL it is the fault of the intellectuals' not any others. They might not influence the politicians. But they can influence the general public. That is their duty.
Because majority of the general public are idiots like you who listen to panchayuda’s gon athal and take a sleep cursing Ranil as a UN proxy. And then wonder why the economy has gone to the dogs when the deshapremis were in power and finally they have to send their kids abroad in search of a new citizenship because they have f@ked up the country they were born into. SL people do not have political awareness and well versed on what happens in political and economic arena. We have to pay a price for that unawareness and this is the case for many in SL now.
Intellectuals in SL need to do more, but they cant be blamed solely because in Colombo there is internet and other media for people to read. In SL people just access media that helps their own version of political ideas. That is the same case with a lot like you.
Have you ever read any writing by Dayan Jayatillake?
After all you are a person into SL current affairs you are not in a position to you don’t know what intellectuals say.
Well if CJ does not do that can't the president remove her? If she was right she need not to worry because people will decide who is right and who is wrong.
How do people decide? Many of the people who read a news paper and hold a neutral view knows what happened. Shirani B is not a good person, she was a part of MR’s gang who brought disastrous 18A. But the reason she got sacked illegally was she didn’t do what MR wanted.
Read what PSC did to her case and how parliament ignored the ruling of the high court. That is why it is illegal. If that is for any wrong doing of her then why bring in a worse character? The people do not decide what is right and wrong, it is deicided by the law of this country. And according to the law of this country it is illegal. And the later appointee Mohan Pieris is a far worse person.
As I pointed out this is the biggest problem of MR and its supporters like you. You cant expect to act unconstitutionally and wrongfully and then give fake and stupid reasons for that and expect the world at large to believe you. There is a thing called brain though you do not utilize and any sane person will see the wrong of it.
That is why I have said MR has lost credibility. When MR or any of the gov goon justify CJ’s case in international media that is stupid. Because it cannot be defended and plain STUPID. Things like this have made MR lost credibility. MR has done many such cases. That is why I said the biggest thing MR lack now is CREDIBILITY which harms the gover and country both. We need someone with credibility. The attempt by you to bring in govern’s same and lame excuses to CJ’s case shows how utterly stupid his followers and how bad it is for the country. In the same way by killing civilians in protests in Halawatha, Kadawatha, Weliweriya, not answering war crime allegations properly, prison massacre everything MR and this gove has LOST credibility.
None with an economic sense believes the economic records of Cabraal 100%. Loss of credibility! So same way MR can’t compete in such a manner with a renowned Judge who is famous for integrity and good work ethic like Wiggie. Even if wiggies does wrong, world believes him. Why? MR lost credibility and wiggie has NOT. That is why we need Ranil to fill MR’s space.
Properly managed? Because of that 60,000 Sinhalese went to their graves. 1000s of Indian soldiers lost their lives including their PM. We have been forced to accept 13A which is not suitable for us and we cannot still terminate. That is how UNP properly managed that.
UNP properly managed that. India was in LTTE side and threatened war against SL. At the end India got out of the SL war in 1990 heavily bruised having to fight LTTE, losing 1200 caders, anti Indian tamil population in SL and lost their PM.
The reason 60,000 Sinhala people went to graves is because JVP having no sense of reality and political understanding. The head Wijeweera was a complete nut case and also stupd handling of the situation of the then UNP administration. They are responsible for that as well.
13 A is the best thing happen to SL. I have explained that to you. Just because you have no brain cells to understand that, I can’t help you. It is because of the managing of india component at that time by JRJ that SL is still one country.
But I don’t reject what you say completely that UNP gover then made many matters worse, especially Indian relationship. UNP government like today’s MR government made problems with Indian government. We needed to patch up with India. And then came a regime change. UNP was ousted and CBK came along with Kadiramagar. The destroyed India-SL relationship was brought back to the normally in a way which is favourable to SL. Then CBK and Kadir did that what ever other wrong had with that CBK gov.
MR has done the same thing regarding US. That is why we need a new chapter. When Inda-SL relationship was destroyed by UNP, CBK came and normalized it. If you were there then you will have become anti CBK at that time. CBK came at a peace platform. Same way we need radical changes in our foreign affairs. This time instead of india it is US. The man to do that is Ranil.
Gotabhaya, Mahinda, Ranil and chandrika all have different different strengths and weaknesses. We should realize what our country needs now and bring that person. Gota’s strategy, knowledge and MR’s will was usefull for us one time. We have used it and now not useful anymore. What we are left with is a propaganda war and we need support of west. The way of war has changed. The need for the hour is a more diplomatic person.
By gaining the moral upper hand back! When LTTE was there gover in SL had the moral upper hand. And world helped us and sympathized with SL for the war.
With LTTE out of the picture, world wanted SL government to go for a power devolution and go forward as a democratic country that value HR.
But gover did not do anything of such. Instead gover started tolerating religious extremism, started building Buddhist temples all over north, and didn’t offer any political solution. Not only that gover even went to strengthen their hold of the power by bringing 18A and arrest of SF, impeachment of CJ. Killings of weliweriya, halawatha, kadawatha and the dictator like manner MR is ruling doesn’t help. It rather shows MR going in the exact opposite way he promised.
MR promised india that he will implement 13A even +. but that was not fulfilled but started a media war against india and 13A. How can you expect India’s help after that. With pressure India made sure SL have PC elections. Yet SL did that because there was pressure to cancel that huge money wastage Commonwealth!
With LTTE out of the picture, now the bad man is SL gover and army. SL need to get rid of the bad name and re instate reputation. Win back the trust of tamils. And remember while tamils hate MR, tamils in SL like Ranil.
The only way is SL gover have to win the moral upper hand. To win the moral upperhand we need to have proper democracy, improve our HR situation and make Tamils a part of SL. Sticking into SL is a Sinhala Buddhist country wont help that. We have to take actions in the ground to make sure and show to the world SL has the moral upper hand.
That is why Ranil is needed. Ranil or anyone else other than MR at the moment has moral upperhand.
Actually Wimal was right. RW sold part of Ceypetco to IOC. A strategic economic blunder. He sold fuel depots in Trincomalee harbor to India another strategic blunder. He is had stayed for another couple of years only god knows what would he have done. Wimal's concern was that powerful economic giants in India would turn SL into their economic colony.
SL is already india’s economic colony. Go some shopping. The one who first sold parts of Ceypetco was CBK and that was in 2004-2005 period. During Ranil’s time IOC was not in SL. Check the stats before bringing fake arguments.
SL’s previous governs mostly SLFP ones make state corporations bankrupt. Look at Sri Lankan, Ceypetco.etc…..The government appointed uneducated idiots have made these things worthless. Sri Lankan is run by Shrianthi R’s brother. The reason these loss making companies are privatized is because SL gover cannot afford to maintaion losses so you keep a certain percentage of shares and sell them to private sector to do the management efficiently. You and I as a citizen have to bear the losses these idiots make while they get salaries of lakhs with increments. With privatization you have the biggest share and still get profits.
The way this country is run, gover will need to privatise many of the state corps in the near future whoever comes to power.
There is no industry in SL, you are heavily indebted to china. Our all imports are from india. So yes we are economic colonies of both india and china thanks to stupid policies of your gover. And oil tanks in Trinco has been given to india since 1987 Ind-Lanka accord. That is not Ranil’s doing and that too as a result of a different political reason.
Just look at the CEPA incident. It was proposed by the government university studied official but many SL entrepreneurs were against it seeing the danger it posed. Likely MR listened to them. If RW at the helm he would have signed CEPA without hesitation.
And MR is going to sign CEPA with China. How is it going to be good with china? CEPA like many have both advantages and disadvantages. I don’t think Ranil will sign it, basically because he is more sensitive and reactive to the business concerns of business community in SL. Check with the business community in SL whom they prefer.
Oh yeah what has UNP came up with? garment factories. But what SLFP came up with? Steel production centers, hand loom factories etc. which would have made our country self reliant
The garment sector is the second largest money earner for SL which SLFP gover could not find an alternative for 2 decades. And what are the steel production centers and handlooms in SL? This is the first time I see one mention these two as exports from SL. Only an idiot would say handlooms would be a potential big industry for SL, while I accept steel production is a potential industry. But what has your SLFP govern done regarding steel production in SL? I know a person who worked at LanWa he is totally disappointed with that.
Your claim of steel production is such a hilarious argument as no one brings it as a major industry in SL. And the hand loom one! In rural india they produce more handloom than us. If you think handloom can be called as a big industry to be a top earner for SL, you are being naïve or pain stupid. The fact that when asked with question you have to run back to handlooms in Sirima’s era sums up the lack of answers from your side.
To be honest this gover of MR does not have what it takes to run successful corporations. They have no business sense. That is why they have messed all of the state run corporations and companie in SL be it Sri Lankan, Mihin (utter flop), SLC, Petroluem, Rupavahini and less said about the power generation the better.
But I would also agree that for the past 20 years SLFP has not started such industries in SL..
So how is that protecting national industries? And what about messing up the economy as a whole?
Then even if we become 100% pure democracy US will not stop their campaign against us. Because of the lobby group. We cannot over power them. We just have to live with them.
It doesn't matter to US whether we are good or bad they just need to fulfill their requirements.
The lobby groups gain upper hand because SL govern is not functioning well. No one can go against a good democracy. When we become a good democracy our stature improves and their influence diminishes. And most importantly negative media attention would go away.
For example in any pro LTTE media, western media or even in Pillay’s report they use anti democratic acts of this gover as a way of justifying their pro separatist and anti SL activities. Read a news paper and use your brain to understand how the western media use them. When writing about war they mention illegal sacking of CJ, killing protesters and many dictator like acts to justify their anti Lankan stand.
And mr.idiot democracy is not needed only to win US, but as a citizen of this country we get a safe stay here with our rights protected in a democratic environment. We need democracy because that is GOOD for simple citizens like u and me.
It is not the MR that destroyed the country but the Executive Presidency and the JR's constitution.
Executive presidency was brought as a result of the prevailing situation at that time. Saying Executive presidency is the root of all evil is a stupid claim that try to absolve the person in power from his or her wrong doings. But yes executive presidency in SL has problems. It was modeled after german /amerucan one but JR cunningly omitted the checks and balances of the systems that are in other countries making Executive presidency more like autocracy in SL. And what about 18th Amendment. MR went beyond JR ne. If you support MR’s 18 A and antics to holding into power in SL how can you question JR’s constitution? Because what JR did was much milder against what MR did.
RW government brought the much needed stability to the country. That provided the boost for the economy.
Yes, why did the stability come with Ranil? Actually after end of war SL got stability than ever before (even more than Ranil’s time). But MR didn’t convert that stability to economic development. Why? Bad economic policies and HUGE wastages. It was not only the stability that Ranil brought good economic policies and of course cost cutting something which SLFP people are unheard of.
Yes those things would make the economy better. But it has to have some kind of a proper way of doing things. You just can't expect people be happy if you use economic policies seen as a cutting down welfare.
Do you want people to run on welfare in this country. Go and listen to people they don’t. they want jobs, industries and good economics and environment to do businesses. What is the ‘proper way of doing things?’ Do you see the present govern doing this so called ‘proper way’?
Privatization of state owned loss making companies which has become burden on people should be done. MR has no iota of idea on economics. Other wise he wont have mattala, mihin and all other his wasteful merrymaking.
Between do you expect people to be happy with Divinaguma which serves NO purpose to the country but BILLIONS of rupees that too ANNUALLY? Don’t you have a problem with that?
That is why I say Ranil has no knowledge on handling the general public opinion. He thinks that his Colombo 7 mentality will prevail and that is not the case. Good politician know how to survive the political arena.
What has ranil got to do in handling public opinion? A PM or a President is not there to handle public opinion. Are public made of some kids? The reason people call Ranil is of Colombo 7 mentality is because they have no other reason to criticize him. So they threw this Colombo 7 rheotic. The truth is there is nothing called Colombo 7 now in SL.
Of course a good politician knows how to survive the political arena and that is why he has been in UNP leadership all these years even with electoral defeats.
What matter is not where he was born or which background he comes from. He is not responsible for MR and other candidates being poorly educated and being non conversant in English. What SL needs at the moment are radical changes in economic policy making, a fresh start in foreign affairs, and taking steps for unity. MR cant do that and he has clearly shown he cant. Ranil has all to cater to all the above. He is the man to go for.
As a matter of investors trust stable governments, not it's leaders. The economy was picked up speed because of the relative stability of the that period.
We have more stability now than then ne? Then only peace agreement with LTTE that too while LTTE killing intelligence operatives undercover and a fragile peace agreement. Now we have no war ne. The stability argument is an empty one because SL has nad no war during MR’s period and SL was stable that too for 5 years.
Stable governments do not provide good business environments. Good business environment is achieved if a stable or even a non stable government can provide good stable political environment. During Ranil’s period executive was in another party and only a person with no sense would say Ranil had a stable government. Actually Ranil did not have a stable govern and that is why CBK could dissolve the parliament within 24 hour notice.
What attracts an investor to a country or entrepreneurship can develop from within the country is there should be investor confidence. This government’s economic policies are BAD (look at this word BAD) and people have no buying power that much. So businesses do not start. Investors hesitate to come.
And then there is fear. They is instability caused by religious intolerance which makes business community further more hesitant to come. Do you like to go and start businesses in a place where monks run havoc? And there are every reasons to suggest further conflict?
Gover brought business acquisition act to acquire businesses that belong to political rivals. The previous govern sold Kanthale sugar factories to Daya Gamage and he turned it into a profit making venture. What did gover do? Acquire them? Do you think any sensible investor would come to SL and start business again? What will happen if you make a successful industry they gover comes and grabs it?
The no law and order situation in country, commissions needed to pay gover ministers have made SL a literally NO GO area for investors. I know this personally that Nimal SIripala and even MR are commission kings. That is one huge reason why we don’t get investors.
IDIOT!
between you had nothing to say about initial part of my post!
