Japanese Warship Kaga is becoming an aircraft carrier

[LegionnairE]

Really?

There won't be a Japan left as not enough of them are having babies.

Guess that's what anime and aspiring to be an obedient salaryman does to you...

Dumb take, this is what urbanization does. China's population stopped growing and started shrinking too. At the moment this doesn't matter so much for china but this is a global trend.

 

[gambit]

This "tradition"? wake up, it's 2023 now.

Not a single PDF Chinese will fight for their country.

 

[beijingwalker]

Russia thought the same things about Ukraine... that their economy is small, that they lack national identity, their youth is unmotivated etc.

All of that stops mattering very very quickly.

Completely unrelated

 

[LegionnairE]

Completely unrelated

Exactly, what matters is strong naval tradition, modern training methods and damn high technology Japanese military posesses.

Getting back to the topic.
F35B offers a far superior system compared to chinese carrier borne planes, not that it matters so much...
as land based F35As can strike pretty much anwhere in China.

 

[beijingwalker]

Exactly, what matters is strong naval tradition, modern training methods and damn high technology Japanese military posesses.

Getting back to the topic.
F35B offers a far superior system compared to chinese carrier borne planes, not that it matters so much...
as land based F35As can strike pretty much anwhere in China.

Japan doesn't have a strong naval traditon, that was almost a century ago, one can argue China had a strong naval tradition because Zhenghe's navy sailed to much of the known world in Ming dynasty.

Japan can hit China everywhere? maybe , but even north Korea can hit everywhere in Japan, it's not wise for Japan to hit anyone for its own very existence.

 

[huanghong]

you greatly underestimate JMSDF.


lol what are you talking about. F35 has incredible range,

While Flankers are very capable when they operate from land, they have awful range and payload capacity taking off from STOBAR ships

Even F-18E is much more preferable

I still think Japan should get some TB3s from Turkey it would be great help at detecting naval targets, making F35s job much easier

No, when carrying a load of about 1 ton, the combat radius of the F-35B is only about 800km, while the relative carrier-based aircraft J-15 is 1500km, and the j-31 is 1250km.

 

[huanghong]

you greatly underestimate JMSDF.


lol what are you talking about. F35 has incredible range,

While Flankers are very capable when they operate from land, they have awful range and payload capacity taking off from STOBAR ships

Even F-18E is much more preferable

I still think Japan should get some TB3s from Turkey it would be great help at detecting naval targets, making F35s job much easier

they have awful range and payload capacity taking off from STOBAR ships?
Stupid statement, the load of the J-15 on the aircraft carrier
2 pieces of 750kg yj-91
2 pieces of 650kg yj-88
2 pieces of 200kg PL-12

 

[gambit]

Did Pierre Sprey's estate hired ignorant Chinese bots to go after the F-35?

 

[jhungary]

Chinese navy would not go that way, just proper carrier+LPD/LHD combination, with EMALS installed on the Type 076.

Why would you install EMALS on Type 076? You either have length to launch or recover aircraft, you can't do both, it's too short....

Plus, what about the Well Deck??

 

[huanghong]

Why would you install EMALS on Type 076? You either have length to launch or recover aircraft, you can't do both, it's too short....

Plus, what about the Well Deck??

it's too short? The data of Type 076 has not been published? how do you conclude it's too short？

 

[jhungary]

it's too short? The data of Type 076 has not been published? how do you conclude it's too short？

Well, considering a full fledge Fleet Carrier (USS FORD) have around 40 ft run off, unless you are telling me 076 is as long and as big as a Fleet Carrier, it is going to be too short.

And again, what about Well Deck?

 

[huanghong]

Well, considering a full fledge Fleet Carrier (USS FORD) have around 40 ft run off, unless you are telling me 076 is as long and as big as a Fleet Carrier, it is going to be too short.

And again, what about Well Deck?

No, I don't know why you think you need a size like USS FORD to carry EMALS.
Considering that you once thought that the Nimitz class carried 90,000 tons of aviation fuel, I think you are exaggerating the real number.
In fact the size of the de Gaulle class is enough to install EMALS

 

[jhungary]

No, I don't know why you think you need a size like USS FORD to carry EMALS.
Considering that you once thought that the Nimitz class carried 90,000 tons of aviation fuel, I think you are exaggerating the real number.

dude, you are using aircraft with similar weight (22tons on F-18E vs 27 tons of J-15), so yes, you need the size of the Ford to launch and recover said aircraft. It does not take a genius to figure that out. Otherwise do tell me what are they launching, J-10 off the deck?

 

[huanghong]

dude, you are using aircraft with similar weight (22tons on F-18E vs 27 tons of J-15), so yes, you need the size of the Ford to launch and recover said aircraft. It does not take a genius to figure that out. Otherwise do tell me what are they launching, J-10 off the deck?

This is another weird claim, there was never word that the 076 would be carrying a J-15. Maybe a J-35? Or a large drone?

 

[jhungary]

This is another weird claim, there was never word that the 076 would carry a J-15. Maybe a J-35?

Because there were NEVER J-35, nor Type 076.....

And J-31 was even heavier at 28 tons......