Japanese, US troops Plan Attack On Chinese Island

[OrionHunter]

TOKYO: Japan and the United States are mulling a joint military drill to simulate retaking a remote island from foreign forces, reports said, amid a festering row between Tokyo and Beijing over disputed islets.

The exercise, part of broader joint manoeuvres to start in early November, would use an uninhabited island in Okinawa, southernmost Japan, Jiji Press and Kyodo News agencies quoted unidentified sources as saying yesterday.

The drill would involve Japanese and US troops making an amphibious and airborne landing to retake the island using boats and helicopters, Kyodo said.

Japan and China have long been at loggerheads over the sovereignty of rocky outcrops in the East China Sea known as the Senkaku Islands in Japan and the Diaoyu Islands in China. The Tokyo-administered island chain is uninhabited, but is thought to be sitting on top of valuable resources.

The dispute flared in August and September with landings by nationalists from both sides and the subsequent nationalisation of the islands by Tokyo.

The exercise would reportedly use the uninhabited island of Irisunajima. The tiny island, used as a firing range for US forces, is also in the East China Sea but hundreds of kilometres away from the disputed island chain.

Jiji said some Japanese and US government officials were cautious about holding the drill, fearing a likely angry response from China.

Japanese, US troops mull drill to take island: Reports - The Times of India

Do we expect a surprise joint amphibious operation by US and Japanese armed forces on what China calls, the Diaoyu Islands in the near future? Is it the beginning of future joint operations of the US with other affected littoral countries in the South China Sea that have ongoing disputes with China, keeping in view the new American doctrine for the Asia Pacific region?

It will be interesting to see how things pan out.

 

[Bhai Zakir]

Japan should throw out invaders and illegal occupant from its land.

 

[northeast]

They don't dare.Our thermonuclear bombs can easily wipe them all out for many times.

 

[xuxu1457]

they even plan attacking Godzilla, aliens, moon; nothing new, they even plan attack on moon to change the weather of the earth

 

[Kompromat]

Japan should throw out invaders and illegal occupant from its land.

Islands belong to China, Japs occupied them during their colonial period over China.

 

[ahfatzia]

Japan should throw out invaders and illegal occupant from its land.

LOL at this ignorant comment. The only occupants in the islands are the wild goats and snakes, and they are there legally.

 

[Bhai Zakir]

Islands belong to China, Japs occupied them during their colonial period over China.

In fact, most part of the present china is occupied territories.

Because as per china they goes by the historical maps and rule.

And by that logic real china is just the land inside the great wall of china.

This wall is the boundary of china, rest is other land.

 

[OrionHunter]

The global shift of power to Asia arises to a great extent from China’s economic rise and advanced technological military modernisation and upgrade of its military forces. This now seems to be unleashing a new China-centric Cold War by the United States in the Asia Pacific as China could militarily challenge the United States in East Asia.

The 'China threat' that weighs heavily on China’s smaller neighbours in the region make them look towards countervailing American power especially in the South China Sea disputes. However in an adversarial military confrontation, most Asian nations are unlikely to unite militarily and politically with the United States against China.

 

[mfreak]

I am confused. Here is what I found on wiki:

Beginnings

Following the Meiji Restoration, the Meiji Japanese government formally annexed what was known as the Ryukyu Kingdom as Okinawa Prefecture in 1879. The Senkaku Islands, which lay between the Ryukyu Kingdom and the Qing empire, became the Sino-Japanese boundary for the first time.

In 1885, the Japanese Governor of Okinawa Prefecture, Nishimura Sutezo, petitioned the Meiji government, asking that it take formal control of the islands. However, Inoue Kaoru, the Japanese Minister of Foreign Affairs, commented that the islands lay near to the border area with the Qing empire and that they had been given Chinese names. He also cited an article in a Chinese newspaper that had previously claimed that Japan was occupying islands off China's coast. Inoue was concerned that if Japan proceeded to erect a landmark stating its claim to the islands, it would make the Qing empire suspicious. Following Inoue's advice, Yamagata Aritomo, the Minister of the Interior, turned down the request to incorporate the islands, insisting that this matter should not be "revealed to the news media".

On 14 January 1895, during the First Sino-Japanese War, Japan incorporated the islands under the administration of Okinawa, stating that it had conducted surveys since 1884 and that the islands were terra nullius, with there being no evidence to suggest that they had been under the Qing empire's control.

After China lost the war, both countries signed the Treaty of Shimonoseki in April 1895 that stipulated, among other things, that China would cede to Japan "the island of Formosa together with all islands appertaining or belonging to said island of Formosa (Taiwan)". The treaty, however, was superseded in 1945 by the Treaty of San Francisco, which was signed between Japan and part of the Allied Powers in 1951 after Japan lost the Second World War. In the treaty of San Francisco, Japan explicitly relinquished the control of Taiwan/Formosa together with all islands appertaining or belonging to it. There is a disagreement between the Japanese, PRC and ROC governments as to whether the islands are implied to be part of the "islands appertaining or belonging to said island of Formosa" in the Treaty of Shimonoseki. China and Taiwan both dispute the Japanese claim by citing Yamagata Aritomo's reasons and decisions to turn down the request to incorporate the islands in 1885. Both PRC and ROC asserted sovereignty over the islands. Japan points out that the islands were placed under the administration of the United States of America as part of the Nansei Shoto Islands, in accordance with Article III of the said treaty and China expressed no objection to the status of the Islands being under the administration of the United States under Article III of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. In 1972, the United States ended its occupation of Okinawa and the Ryukyu Island chain, which included the Senkaku Islands.

Chinese (PRC) and Taiwanese (ROC) positions


A 1785 Japanese map, the Sangoku Tsūran Zusetsu by Hayashi Shihei adopted the Chinese kanji to annotate the Senkaku Islands, which were painted in the same color as China. The primary text itself can be found here.
Although Chinese authorities did not assert claims to the islands while they were under US administration, formal claims were announced in 1971 when the US was preparing to end its adminsitration. While Japan argues that a 1968 survey finding possible oil reserves in the area explains the emergence of Chinese claims, the Chinese argue that the sovereignty dispute is a legacy of Japanese imperialism and China's failure to secure the territory's prompt return following Japan's military defeat in 1945 was due to the complexities of the Chinese Civil War. The two civil war combatants, the Chinese Communist Party and the Kuomintang (KMT), formed the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the Republic of China (ROC) respectively, and the communists eventually forced the ROC off the mainland to Taiwan in 1949. Both the PRC and ROC currently claim sovereignty based on arguments that include the following points:

-Discovery and early recording in maps and travelogues

- The islands were China's frontier off-shore defence against wokou (Japanese pirates) during the Ming and Qing dynasties (1368–1911). A Chinese map of Asia, as well as a map compiled by a Japanese cartographer in the 18th century, shows the islands as a part of China.

-Japan took control of the islands during the First Sino-Japanese War in 1894–1895, to whom they were formally ceded by the Treaty of Shimonoseki. A letter of the Japanese Minister of Foreign Affairs in 1885, warning against annexing the islands due to anxiety about China's response, shows that Japan knew the islands were not terra nullius.

-The Potsdam Declaration stated that "Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine", and "we" referred to the victors of the Second World War who met at Potsdam, the USA, the UK and the Republic of China. Japan accepted the terms of the Declaration when it surrendered.

-China formally protested the 1971 US transfer of control to Japan

Japanese position

The Japanese stance is that there is no territorial issue that needs to be resolved. It has stated the following points as claim for the islands and counter-argument against China's claim.

-The islands had been uninhabited and showed no trace of having been under the control of China prior to 1895.

-The islands were neither part of Taiwan nor part of the Pescadores Islands, which were ceded to Japan by the Qing Dynasty of China in Article II of the May 1895 Treaty of Shimonoseki, thus were not later renounced by Japan under Article II of the San Francisco Peace Treaty.

-Though the islands were controlled by the United States as an occupying power between 1945 and 1972, Japan has since 1972 exercised administration over the islands.

-Japanese allege that Taiwan and China only started claiming ownership of the islands in 1971, following a May 1969 United Nations report that a large oil and gas reserve may exist under the seabed near the islands.

 

[India defense]

Dont Plan ....Just do it

Islands belong to China, Japs occupied them during their colonial period over China.

Should be given to Pakistan....

 

[ahfatzia]

Dont Plan ....Just do it

Like this?

 

[sweetgrape]

LOL at this ignorant comment. The only occupants in the islands are the wild goats and snakes, and they are there legally.

What will you want to get from indian? they are loser, dare not fight china, so put the hope on other countries! you know them.

 

[Viet]

Like this?

That isn´t nice. The title is somehow misleading.

 

[ahfatzia]

That isn´t nice.

You can't be too nice to certain type of people all the time because they'll take as weakness.

On Topic,

The US is keep sending mixed signals to Japan and now what should Japan do: gets tough or peaceful negotiations?

From now onward China will patrol within the 12 nm limit of the Diaoyu with her CMS as she never used to do before. In another word, Japan no long 'administers' the island group anymore. It takes some fiasco to realize one's mistakes, I suppose, and by continue doing so will only makes it worst.

 

[anon45]

Not really relevent except as pr, the battle would be won or lost on the water, not the land. Landing there would just be redundant.

Also there are no mixed signals, the US has said the islands fall under the treaty, I don't know how we can be any clearer... Carrier next to the islands?

They don't dare.Our thermonuclear bombs can easily wipe them all out for many times.

You have 10 that can reach the US, we have 2000 that can reach where you live. You really wanna start this?