Japanese space probe goes into orbit around Venus

[Godman]

I'm speaking of the media. There is nothing spectacular about sending a probe, especially to Venus in which there is NO POSSIBILITY of life or human settlement because it is close to the Sun. Unlike Mars where human settlement is possible.

People don't go exploring just to make settlements, Lack of water and Inability to create settlements doesn't mean we don't go searching for Oil and Gas in the middle of the desert. Searching for Natural resources and filling humanity's knowledge on the universe are also importent.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I'm speaking of the media. There is nothing spectacular about sending a probe, especially to Venus in which there is NO POSSIBILITY of life or human settlement because it is close to the Sun. Unlike Mars where human settlement is possible. The space superpower India which put a probe to Mars got a lot of media hype, not because it was a human breakthrough. It is because they put a probe on the cheap. But then again, cheap is relative to the facts the Indian probe is low-quality, light weight probe which doesn't offer a lot of useful information on Mars. Now, we are going to try to land a rover on Mars in 2020. If it is successful, we will be the 2nd country to have done this technological human breakthrough after the US did it in the early 2000s.

The first US rover on Mars was actually in 1997 with the Sojourner rover.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Congratulations !!

 

[Mirza Jatt]

congrats Japan

 

[xunzi]

You're a typical delusional troll

Experts have pointed out that the enormous cost difference between Mangalyaan and Maven is because the Indian Mars-craft is far simpler than Maven. “They’ve kept it small,” Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe’s Mars rover in 2018, said of the Indian Mars mission. “The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost,” he told the BBC.

3rd actually...

Who's 2nd?

People don't go exploring just to make settlements, Lack of water and Inability to create settlements doesn't mean we don't go searching for Oil and Gas in the middle of the desert. Searching for Natural resources and filling humanity's knowledge on the universe are also importent.

It is true that for scientific understanding, it is good to explore all planets. But like I said, there is priority set for important planet. Space, as you may well known, is extremely expensive. There is a limit budget and we got to use the money to the fullest extend. The main purpose for space exploration is potential human settlement because the earth will not last forever. Mars to this day, have been the MOST study planet in the solar system and there is a good reason for that and it is what caused Media frenzy. Matter of fact, it is so important that all space powers focus exclusively on Mars, USA, Soviet, EU, and China. We will attempt to land a rover in Mars in 2020s. We already build the rover and given the success of Moon lander, we hope to achieve EDL technological system (entry, descent, landing) breakthrough like on the Moon.

The first US rover on Mars was actually in 1997 with the Sojourner rover.

It was a short-live rover. The real success of the rover is the Spirit, land in 2003 and produced the most value Mars information.

 

[vtnsx]

Ha...! Why...yes!



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JAXA probe has made contact with the great plant VENUS:

I thought China would be the first one. Where's China?? Are you sure this is Japanese made? it looks Chinese to me.

The Soviet sent a probe to Venus 50 years ago. Let me remind you that. This is nothing new. This is not a new territory. Sending a probe is easy. In fact, any country with rocket that send satellite to space can do that. Though, sending and landing a probe on the planet or better yet, a manned mission in space take a different technological know-how territory because of precise navigation and reentry back to earth needs advance re-entry rocket.. That's why nobody cares about sending probe to another planet. It is a one way street. Easy cake. Even a private space company can do that.

HHAHAHAAA what a butthurt comment. Such a loser.

You killed me.



Whats wrong with you Chinese? Apart from my friend @Shotgunner51, @Chinese-Dragon and a few other members here , the majority of you here hate Japan so much that you are even jealous of any little thing they achieve.
As i said several times on here: YOU CAN HATE/DESPISE A COUNTRY, BUT STILL CONGRATULATE THEM FOR THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AND GIVE CREDIT WHEN DUE.
Bitterness/jealousy never helped anyone.

You mean the kid, opruh? That guy and some butthurt chinese members in here haven't gone through puberty yet. It's hard to expect them to behave like adults.

Experts have pointed out that the enormous cost difference between Mangalyaan and Maven is because the Indian Mars-craft is far simpler than Maven. “They’ve kept it small,” Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe’s Mars rover in 2018, said of the Indian Mars mission. “The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost,” he told the BBC.




Who's 2nd?


It is true that for scientific understanding, it is good to explore all planets. But like I said, there is priority set for important planet. Space, as you may well known, is extremely expensive. There is a limit budget and we got to use the money to the fullest extend. The main purpose for space exploration is potential human settlement because the earth will not last forever. Mars to this day, have been the MOST study planet in the solar system and there is a good reason for that and it is what caused Media frenzy. Matter of fact, it is so important that all space powers focus exclusively on Mars, USA, Soviet, EU, and China. We will attempt to land a rover in Mars in 2020s. We already build the rover and given the success of Moon lander, we hope to achieve EDL technological system (entry, descent, landing) breakthrough like on the Moon.


It was a short-live rover. The real success of the rover is the Spirit, land in 2003 and produced the most value Mars information.

Did you know the telescope was the best invention that the human has ever created? Oh wait, this is China, they don't care about the telescope, they can just send human to mars without looking at it first. LMAO!! Typical delusional person you are.

 

[Roybot]

Experts have pointed out that the enormous cost difference between Mangalyaan and Maven is because the Indian Mars-craft is far simpler than Maven. “They’ve kept it small,” Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe’s Mars rover in 2018, said of the Indian Mars mission. “The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost,” he told the BBC.

Thats the weight of the scientific payoad, total payload was 500 Kg, compared to the minuscule 115Kg payload of failed Chinese mars probe Yinghuo-1 .

 

[xunzi]

Thats the weight of the scientific payoad, total payload was 500 Kg, compared to the minuscule 115Kg payload of failed Chinese mars probe Yinghuo-1 .

500kg was the dry mass. In other words, useless metal chunk. LOL

As for the Yinghuo-1, it is fail on Russian rocket. It had nothing to do with us. Since that failure, we have decided to do everything ourselves and not rely on other rocket for our space exploration.

 

[AugenBlick]

500kg was the dry mass. In other words, useless metal chunk. LOL

As for the Yinghuo-1, it is fail on Russian rocket. It had nothing to do with us. Since that failure, we have decided to do everything ourselves and not rely on other rocket for our space exploration.

So when can we expect our friends from the north to meet us at Mars

 

[Audio]

Who's 2nd?

Joint ESA/Roscosmos mission, 2016 orbiter/ static lander (launch in 1 month), 2018, orbiter/rover. Hopefully it will be successful. With Russians being responsible for the launch vehicles plus the news of reducing expenditure on space related operations (ie Roscosmos will be getting less money from budget)....i hope some under paid technician/engineer doesn't miss something during the pre flight inspections.....

In any case, 2nd, 3rd makes not much difference, still a praise worthy achievement for anyone.

 

[AugenBlick]

Anyway good for japan to learn a few tricks out of India's hat.

 

[Audio]

Anyway good for japan to learn a few tricks out of India's hat.

They are probably ahead in every category.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Well, as i said Japan is an ultra developed country and among the most productive major country on earth(per person)in the leagues of U.S,Germany, Britain, France etc.

People don't go exploring just to make settlements, Lack of water and Inability to create settlements doesn't mean we don't go searching for Oil and Gas in the middle of the desert. Searching for Natural resources and filling humanity's knowledge on the universe are also importent.

Don't mind SOME(not all) Chinese members on here, they seem so butthurt about Japanese achievements, which to me is a surprise, since i thought they had passed the stage where they will be so insecure/childish to start making such ridiculous comment just to prove what Japan has achieved is useless. Funny thing is that if this was a Chinese probe, then they will be saying something completely different and praising China like no tomorrow. lol I'm sure even they were the one to achieve all these, then we will all be congratulating them as well including my good/polite Japanese friend @Nihonjin1051 . They way some of them reacted on this news is just childish to be honest and shows a sense of bitterness/jealousy, which shouldn't be the case, since i believe you ca be a rival or even despise another country but still do the right thing and congratulate/recognize their achievements.

They are probably ahead in every category.

LOL

 

[xunzi]

So when can we expect our friends from the north to meet us at Mars

We expect to meet you on the surface in 2020s. LOL

Joint ESA/Roscosmos mission, 2016 orbiter/ static lander (launch in 1 month), 2018, orbiter/rover. Hopefully it will be successful. With Russians being responsible for the launch vehicles plus the news of reducing expenditure on space related operations (ie Roscosmos will be getting less money from budget)....i hope some under paid technician/engineer doesn't miss something during the pre flight inspections.....

In any case, 2nd, 3rd makes not much difference, still a praise worthy achievement for anyone.

Well I have heard of the 2018 ESA lander. So yes, if it is a success, we will congrat our European partner and you will be the 2nd to land and operate successfully. If not, we will do so in 2020. Given our success on the Moon lander, we expect the same result in the Mars lander.

 

[Aepsilons]

I thought China would be the first one. Where's China?? Are you sure this is Japanese made? it looks Chinese to me.

I thought China would be the first one. Where's China?? Are you sure this is Japanese made? it looks Chinese to me.

Who said the Chinese are the first in everything? Perhaps in history , ancient history to be specific, they were a prolific and prominent racial power in East Asia, in context to civilization genesis. However, in regards to modern industrial paradigm, they are a new and latecomer force. The first Asian nation , civilization to industrialize --- during the Age of Industrialization --- was the Japanese Empire. It was not China.

As a ultra-developed and modern society, prominent economic power that is Japan --- it is no surprise to see Her contribution to science, industry and economics. I suppose the galactic exploration paradigm is but an attribute to Japan's expansive contribution in modern development.


Regards.

Don't mind SOME(not all) Chinese members on here, they seem so butthurt about Japanese achievements, which to me is a surprise, since i thought they had passed the stage where they will be so insecure/childish to start making such ridiculous comment just to prove what Japan has achieved is useless. Funny thing is that if this was a Chinese probe, then they will be saying something completely different and praising China like no tomorrow. lol I'm sure even they were the one to achieve all these, then we will all be congratulating them as well including my good/polite Japanese friend @Nihonjin1051 . They way some of them reacted on this news is just childish to be honest and shows a sense of bitterness/jealousy, which shouldn't be the case, since i believe you ca be a rival or even despise another country but still do the right thing and congratulate/recognize their achievements.

Of course Japan is ultra developed and will continue to contribute to human collective development. I would argue that in contrast to some members in PDF --- the Chinese peers are in support of Japan's contribution in this space exploration paradigm. In fact the extensive nature of Japanese-Chinese academic collaboration is highly noted. One or two Chinese members in PDF who show a discernible disregard for Japan and Japan's contribution --- does not change the fact that the two civilizations are cooperative powers in most national and international strategic variables.

They are probably ahead in every category.

In most and every category, yes. But let us not belittle the Indian yearning to expand and succeed. That human spirit is to be congratulated, nourished and supported. India is a friend of Japan; and are both spiritual , political, and historical peers. Long shall this ancient relationship endure.