Japanese firms to invest $6.4b

[TopCat]

Please read the article:

"six projects from the list that it deemed suitable for investment through Japanese private investors."

This is not the same as JICA where the "investor" is the Japanese government.

What happens is that the private Japanese company pays for the infrastructure through raising the funds from banks etc, and then recoups the cost and hopefully makes a profit by charging tolls for 20 years as an example.

@mmr

Good to see Japan that has been so good to BD getting priority in these juicy FDI contracts.

It is actually change of Govt policy to award Japanese companies the project with Japanese funds instead of putting them to compete with Chinese in price. That was the turning point attract so many Japanese companies these days.

I guess this @Nilgiri guys is in everybody's ignore list. He is not getting any reply in BD section anymore.. Thats sad...

 

[bluesky]

I was wondering same. But bd posters mention it will be investment and Japanese companies will collect revenue.

About Sojitsu: "The Sojitz Group was essentially formed through the business integration between Nichimen Corporation and Nissho Iwai Corporation, two companies with over a century of history. This business integration took shape in December 2002 and was followed on April 1, 2003, by the incorporation of a joint holding company".

"As a public listed company, this holding company was incorporated to pursue business integration, management supervision and comprehensive disclosure. Heralding a new era, the principal operating arms of the Group, Nichimen Corporation and Nissho Iwai Corporation were merged to form a new single entity, Sojitz Corporation on April 1, 2004".

I have never heard that Sojitsu or its two parent companies or Marubeni Corporation ever went out of their main business, which is trading only. However, there are many instances that these companies, as well as companies like C.Itoh and Mitsui Corporation, and big others like Sumitomo, use their money and influence to get projects from foreign countries and ask big construction companies like Kajima to implement them.

Usually, very rich because most of these general merchandise companies are affiliated with banks. The Japanese say it Keiretsu. They support the construction companies by winning big tenders and finance the construction companies through the construction phase with their money. The merchandise companies have no engineering and construction divisions. They can supply money only.

 

[UKBengali]

kalagiri went full retard..after seeing his countrymen burning their own country down,he just wants to vent out his frustration by writing gibberish essays,as usual....thats how a kala cockroach survives..!!

The evidence against the troll argument of "fake" GDP numbers is just too overwhelming now.

The whole world believes in BD economy and so they are investing 10s of billions of US dollars into BD economy, but somehow pdf trolls know better. Japan is just the latest example pumping over 6 billion US dollars building infrastructure in BD.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yup plenty of "evidence" that Equatorial Guinea had whopping 32% growth too just because it reported that and IMF and whoever had to publish that too a few years..

They super care about it? Just means you can try borrow more from them (with whatever junk credit rating that doesnt improve) and they can shaft you more on it later if you are faking.

But do actual competent supply chain investors (who cant take a basket case govt to court if something goes wrong unlike the IMF) of note believe it and front their capital with all the knowhow extras (that IMF cannot provide)?

Its frankly amazing how stupid you lot are. Literally no concept of what or where an actual investor (who has to risk his own money after all) looks first (and deeply) to decide if a country actually has solid platform and what numbers we would thus be seeing in crucial areas 5 years ago (forget now) esp at such low base if even a small % of the BD blab noise were actually true.

But noooooo its not an LDC govt BS growth figure at all ....not one consuming barely anything especially....with a 30% inflated base....and achieving 0 after 0 after 0 of export promises piling up and going nowhere in the end.

And yes the DSE market cap tanking by half and the RMG decline occurring right now are related (too bad dishwashers dont know basic mechanism why). You can see what dominoes fall for yourself later in the year.

@Nike @Gibbs @Godman @Khan_21 @Old School @Juggernaut_is_here

 

[leonblack08]

I would request everyone to stop with the racist slurs.

There is no point in bringing someone's skin color to discussion. It is not Islamic.

 

[Old School]

Yup plenty of "evidence" that Equatorial Guinea had whopping 32% growth too just because it reported that and IMF and whoever had to publish that too a few years..

They super care about it? Just means you can try borrow more from them (with whatever junk credit rating that doesnt improve) and they can shaft you more on it later if you are faking.

But do actual competent supply chain investors (who cant take a basket case govt to court if something goes wrong unlike the IMF) of note believe it and front their capital with all the knowhow extras (that IMF cannot provide)?

Its frankly amazing how stupid you lot are. Literally no concept of what or where an actual investor (who has to risk his own money after all) looks first (and deeply) to decide if a country actually has solid platform and what numbers we would thus be seeing in crucial areas 5 years ago (forget now) esp at such low base if even a small % of the BD blab noise were actually true.

But noooooo its not an LDC govt BS growth figure at all ....not one consuming barely anything especially....with a 30% inflated base....and achieving 0 after 0 after 0 of export promises piling up and going nowhere in the end.

And yes the DSE market cap tanking by half and the RMG decline occurring right now are related (too bad dishwashers dont know basic mechanism why). You can see what dominoes fall for yourself later in the year.

@Nike @Gibbs @Godman @Khan_21 @Old School @Juggernaut_is_here

I am in fact worried about much more sinister thing. BD army itself is the leading infrastructure developer in BD which always competes for lucrative contracts. They didn't even spare the Japs and Italians when BD Army did not get these contracts in their terms. What do they do ? They try to chase away foreign competitions with 'dirty techniques' ; things like the one below and portray them as 'terror' attacks :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/03/dhaka-bangladesh-cafe-attack-hostages-victims

It was all about the metro rail contracts. The stubborn Japs knew it all and didn't withdrew the last time though.

 

[UKBengali]

I am in fact worried about much more sinister thing. BD army itself is the leading infrastructure developer in BD which always competes for lucrative contracts. They didn't even spare the Japs and Italians when BD Army did not get these contracts in their terms. What do they do ? They try to chase away foreign competitions with 'dirty techniques' ; things like the one below and portray them as 'terror' attacks :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/03/dhaka-bangladesh-cafe-attack-hostages-victims

It was all about the metro rail contracts. The stubborn Japs knew it all and didn't withdrew the last time though.

Like I say, you need to provide evidence to back up your claims.

 

[Nilgiri]

I am in fact worried about much more sinister thing. BD army itself is the leading infrastructure developer in BD which always competes for lucrative contracts. They didn't even spare the Japs and Italians when BD Army did not get these contracts in their terms. What do they do ? They try to chase away foreign competitions with 'dirty techniques' ; things like the one below and portray them as 'terror' attacks :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/03/dhaka-bangladesh-cafe-attack-hostages-victims

It was all about the metro rail contracts. The stubborn Japs knew it all and didn't withdrew the last time though.

I honestly dont know enough on this kind of issue. I stick to economics largely....what I can see in global register (with multi stream free market transaction data) versus what BD claims (with single stream govt data aka BBS) etc.

 

[VikingRaider]

They didn't even spare the Japs and Italians when BD Army did not get these contracts in their terms. What do they do ? They try to chase away foreign competitions with 'dirty techniques' ; things like the one below and portray them as 'terror' attacks :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/03/dhaka-bangladesh-cafe-attack-hostages-victims

It was all about the metro rail contracts. The stubborn Japs knew it all and didn't withdrew the last time though.

Please brother, don't defame Bangladesh armed forces. People truly love armed forces more than the most, believe it or not! Common people consider armed forces as their saviour and protector, and actually they are! They are protecting Bangladesh with strong hand from becoming Somalia or Afghanistan.

We know practically some incidents as we are living here. And experience of common peoples aren't based on research papers.

 

[Old School]

Please brother, don't defame Bangladesh armed forces. People truly love armed forces more than the most, believe it or not! Common people consider armed forces as their saviour and protector, and actually they are! They are protecting Bangladesh with strong hand from being Somalia or Afghanistan.

We know practically some incidents as we are living here. And experience of common peoples aren't based on research papers.

Common people ? They should only read a defense forum rather than writing naive comments. Armed forces in BD have become a mafia who only protect the biggest oligarchy in Asia rather than protecting common people. They have managed to silence their critics in BD by their own methods. Don't expect that to happen here in PDF. If you people can't see anything, that is probably because :

 

[bluesky]

"six projects from the list that it deemed suitable for investment through Japanese private investors."

Read my previous post. I have never heard any Japanese Trading House ever invest in manufacturing or in another country's national infrastructure projects, even in Japan. They get lucrative govt projects which they will distribute to big construction companies like Kajima, Ohbayashi Gumi, etc. and support them in financing.

I do not have to belive everything BD newspapers write. I think the total value of the projects is $6.4 billion, JICA will finance it, the trading houses will get the contracts but will disburse them to Japanese construction companies.

This is how Japanese companies move.

 

[UKBengali]

Read my previous post. I have never heard any Japanese Trading House ever invest in manufacturing or in another country's national infrastructure projects, even in Japan. They get lucrative govt projects which they will distribute to big construction companies like Kajima, Ohbayashi Gumi, etc. and support them in financing.

I do not have to belive everything BD newspapers write. I think the total value of the projects is $6.4 billion, JICA will finance it, the trading houses will get the contracts but will disburse them to Japanese construction companies.

This is how Japanese companies move.

JICA is 100% owned by the Japanese government and the money comes from the savings of the Japanese people.

JICA does not get it's money from Japanese trading houses.

Tell me why would a Japanese trading house be interested in giving a loan to BD with 0.1% interest rate, 10 year grace period and repayment term of 40 years? They can get much better return by loaning the money elsewhere.

Remember BD a while back decided to not even put some projects for competition outside Japan and so Japanese private investors are able to pick the most lucrative projects to invest and make money from tolls, fares etc.

 

[bluesky]

Remember BD a while back decided to not even put some projects for competition outside Japan and so Japanese private investors are able to pick the most lucrative projects to invest and make money from tolls, fares etc.

Considering the Japanese style of business I do not think any Japanese trading house will ever invest in public works projects, especially in an unknown society. There is no such example for them even in their home country. Read what internet sources say of toll road investments in Japan:

"To meet with the six private companies in charge of managing and operating the toll highway network in Japan (East NEXCO, West NEXCO, Metropolitan Expressway Company Ltd., Hanshin Expressway Company Ltd., and Honshu-Shikoku Expressway Company Ltd.)".

The toll roads are financed by very very big transport companies (and not trading houses) in Japan. So, there is an ample reason to believe that the BD toll road money will be provided by JICA as loans to the GoB, undertaken by the Japanese trading houses that have offices in BD and constructed by Kajima-like large construction companies who have more than 150 years of construction experience.

The GoB gets the toll and repays the money to JICA. This seems to a more logical way of doing things if it is Japan.

 

[UKBengali]

Considering the Japanese style of business I do not think any Japanese trading house will ever invest in public works projects, especially in an unknown society. There is no such example for them even in their home country. Read what internet sources say of toll road investments in Japan:

"To meet with the six private companies in charge of managing and operating the toll highway network in Japan (East NEXCO, West NEXCO, Metropolitan Expressway Company Ltd., Hanshin Expressway Company Ltd., and Honshu-Shikoku Expressway Company Ltd.)".

The toll roads are financed by very very big transport companies (and not trading houses) in Japan. So, there is an ample reason to believe that the BD toll road money will be provided by JICA as loans to the GoB, undertaken by the Japanese trading houses that have offices in BD and constructed by Kajima-like large construction companies who have more than 150 years of construction experience.

The GoB gets the toll and repays the money to JICA. This seems to a more logical way of doing things if it is Japan.

OK, let us see what the reality actually is.

As long as this is extra money to what JICA provides yearly(1.5-2 billion US dollars) then it is all good. The technicalities are not that important.