Japan to have first aircraft carriers since World War II

[Viet]

I don't know, but I feel that this is so funny LOL

Just imagine, Japanese men fight and die, and then their women are stolen by the Americans.

You are funny. Nobody can scare the Japanese.they are famous for Bushido code. fighting until the bitter end.

 

[Brainsucker]

You are funny. Nobody can scare the Japanese.they are famous for Bushido code. fighting until the bitter end.

Did I said that they are coward?

I said that Japanese Youth are Endangered Species, next to extinction. So if they fight and died, then who will replace them? @Starlord Claim American. So, if Japanese Men died in battle, the American will steal their women for the sake of Japanese Survival Breeding Program.

If Japanese men angry because if this, don't blame me. It's their fault for not married and give birth more children. It is a hard reality.

 

[initial_d]

Did I said that they are coward?

I said that Japanese Youth are Endangered Species, next to extinction. So if they fight and died, then who will replace them? @Starlord Claim American. So, if Japanese Men died in battle, the American will steal their women for the sake of Japanese Survival Breeding Program.

If Japanese men angry because if this, don't blame me. It's their fault for not married and give birth more children. It is a hard reality.

Nah when their soldier die, they may replace it with cyborg, robot and mutant

 

[Brainsucker]

Nah when their soldier die, they may replace it with cyborg, robot and mutant

Oh I forget about that. Good thinking bro. LOL

 

[Viet]

Did I said that they are coward?

I said that Japanese Youth are Endangered Species, next to extinction. So if they fight and died, then who will replace them? @Starlord Claim American. So, if Japanese Men died in battle, the American will steal their women for the sake of Japanese Survival Breeding Program.

If Japanese men angry because if this, don't blame me. It's their fault for not married and give birth more children. It is a hard reality.

The Japanese fear a war because Japan population declines? Nonsense. In opposite, Japan will start looking for new territories, new slaves in overseas. The Japanese tended raiding China for resources when it was under pressure.

I predict Japan will have 10 aircraft carriers because 10 is a lucking number in Japan.

The Chinese will have 8 because 8 is their lucky number.

Vietnam will have 9 destroyers because 9 is our lucky digit.

The way the Chinese clowns behave I won’t be surprised if Japan arms with nuclear weapons.

 

[Brainsucker]

The Japanese fear a war because Japan population declines? Nonsense. In opposite, Japan will start looking for new territories, new slaves in overseas. The Japanese tended raiding China for resources when it was under pressure.

I predict Japan will have 10 aircraft carriers because 10 is a lucking number in Japan.

The Chinese will have 8 because 8 is their lucky number.

Vietnam will have 9 destroyers because 9 is our lucky digit.

The way the Chinese clowns behave I won’t be surprised if Japan arms with nuclear weapons.

So, Japan will seeks new territory to get new slaves in Oversea? Vietnam should worry about that. They pretend to be friendly, but who know what happen after you put down your guard. After all, it is easier for this Slaver to enslave Vietnam than China. It's way cheaper. After all you're already inside their TPP enslavement trap.

What 9 Destroyers can do to face these lucky number 10 Aircraft Carriers belong to this Japanese Slavers? You're Doomed!!!!

 

[antonius123]

The Japanese fear a war because Japan population declines? Nonsense. In opposite, Japan will start looking for new territories, new slaves in overseas. The Japanese tended raiding China for resources when it was under pressure.

I predict Japan will have 10 aircraft carriers because 10 is a lucking number in Japan.

The Chinese will have 8 because 8 is their lucky number.

Vietnam will have 9 destroyers because 9 is our lucky digit.

The way the Chinese clowns behave I won’t be surprised if Japan arms with nuclear weapons.

Japan to have 10 AC? where the money come from? This is not about lucky number, having a carrier means a lot of money both for building the carrier, + acquiring planes, conduct operations and maintenance, so money talk!

Do you think Japan with less military budget than that of China can have more military power than China?

 

[Brainsucker]

Japan to have 10 AC? where the money come from? This is not about lucky number, having a carrier means a lot of money both for building the carrier, + acquiring planes, conduct operations and maintenance, so money talk!

Do you think Japan with less military budget than that of China can have more military power than China?

Well, if it is about Izumo Class with 10 F35B, it is reachable for Japan. As long as they raise their military spending. Izumo is way smaller than Liaoning, and it can only take 10 F-35B. I don't know which is better, an Izumo with helicopter for ASW mission, or an Izumo with 10 F-35B for Aircraft Carrier mission.

@jhungary, what do you think about this? Which is better for Izumo? An Izumo with ASW Mission helicopter, or an Izumo with 10 F-35B for aircraft carrier mission. Can the F-35B replace the function of ASW heli that it replace? Does 10 F-35B is effective enough for their Aircraft Carrier mission? Well, although I like trolling with you, but this is a serious question and on topic with this thread too. It is better for more technical discussion like this than talk about "Japanese Slaver enslave Vietnam" Troll post.

 

[antonius123]

Well, if it is about Izumo Class with 10 F35B, it is reachable for Japan. As long as they raise their military spending. Izumo is way smaller than Liaoning, and it can only take 10 F-35B. I don't know which is better, an Izumo with helicopter for ASW mission, or an Izumo with 10 F-35B for Aircraft Carrier mission.

@jhungary, what do you think about this? Which is better for Izumo? An Izumo with ASW Mission helicopter, or an Izumo with 10 F-35B for aircraft carrier mission. Can the F-35B replace the function of ASW heli that it replace? Does 10 F-35B is effective enough for their Aircraft Carrier mission? Well, although I like trolling with you, but this is a serious question and on topic with this thread too. It is better for more technical discussion like this than talk about "Japanese Slaver enslave Vietnam" Troll post.

Izumo is only small carrier with 27K ton dw, which is not comparable with Liaoning, Queen Elizabeth etc. For true AC Japan need at least US$ 4.5 billion each excluding aircraft etc, which is more expensive than Chinese AC Type 002/003.

Now we are talking about 10 AC almost like US Navy with Japan military budget

F-35B is very formidable, but VTOL will limit it's carriage, hence the effectiveness for carrier mission will be limited too.

 

[Brainsucker]

Izumo is only small carrier with 27K ton dw, which is not comparable with Liaoning, Queen Elizabeth etc. For true AC Japan need at least US$ 4.5 billion each excluding aircraft etc, which is more expensive than Type 002.

Now we are talking about 10 AC almost like US Navy from Japan military budget

F-35B is ver formidable, but VTOL will limit it's carriage, hence the effectiveness for carrier mission will be limited too.

Yes, Izumo is small, accoding to Jhungary it can carry only 10 F-35B with them. So it bring me a question. Izumo is better as it's original mission, as ASW Heli carrier, or to become an Aircraft Carrier.

 

[Viet]

So, Japan will seeks new territory to get new slaves in Oversea? Vietnam should worry about that. They pretend to be friendly, but who know what happen after you put down your guard. After all, it is easier for this Slaver to enslave Vietnam than China. It's way cheaper. After all you're already inside their TPP enslavement trap.

What 9 Destroyers can do to face these lucky number 10 Aircraft Carriers belong to this Japanese Slavers? You're Doomed!!!!

Vietnam traditionally is militarily more capable. Japan raids China multiple times but only one time Vietnam thru entire history. China has what Japan needs: resources and people.

Vietnam always copies China although I think in addition to destroyer fleet we will have 1 or 2 small aircraft carriers. Money constraints.

Japan to have 10 AC? where the money come from? This is not about lucky number, having a carrier means a lot of money both for building the carrier, + acquiring planes, conduct operations and maintenance, so money talk!

Do you think Japan with less military budget than that of China can have more military power than China?

Japan has a mountain of money, in trillions USD. Japan has huge investments overseas that generate a steady flow of money. Having 10 carriers is not making them any headache.

 

[Suika]

Japan isn't invading China again. PLA Army is way too big and Japanese nationalism for war is not nearly high enough.

Chinese posters here have shown a lot of restraint to the claims that Japan can invade again. Credit to them.

 

[Brainsucker]

Japan isn't invading China again. PLA Army is way too big and Japanese nationalism for war is not nearly high enough.

Chinese posters here have shown a lot of restraint to the claims that Japan can invade again. Credit to them.

Hei @Suika. I read a news about Japanese old People actually are tended by the government with Japanese Young money. Won't it burden Japanese Young more? Without that tax, Japanese Young can save money to marry, have children, etc. But if burdened by that payment, then won't it restrict them financially in many way?

What do you think about that?

Poland have the same policy, and their young prefer to leave the country and live else where. I know this, because I have a Poland friend who left his country to other place because he dislike that policy.

A. Vietnam traditionally is militarily more capable. Japan raids China multiple times but only one time Vietnam thru entire history. China has what Japan needs: resources and people.

Vietnam always copies China although I think in addition to destroyer fleet we will have 1 or 2 small aircraft carriers. Money constraints.

B. Japan has a mountain of money, in trillions USD. Japan has huge investments overseas that generate a steady flow of money. Having 10 carriers is not making them any headache.

A. So basically you said that Vietnam copy what China is doing in developing their military? Ok, case close.
But, I still don't believe that Vietnam can stand against a Japanese Invasion. Specially with their lucky number Aircraft Carriers. Plus, you have been ensnared by them. Do you think that you still have a chance now?

B. Japan just rich, like China. They are not mega rich, overshadowing everybody else. But they have a mountain of debt too. So it's hard to believe that Japanese will prefer to raise their military spending. Because economy development and public welfare is more important than 10 Aircraft Carriers.

 

[antonius123]

Japan has a mountain of money, in trillions USD. Japan has huge investments overseas that generate a steady flow of money. Having 10 carriers is not making them any headache.

Which mountain of money do you mean? In fact Japanese government has huge debt!

If we talk about military budget, then it is under Government's budget. If you inflate military budget means you have to reduce other allocated budget such as: education, R&D, social benefits/safety, infrastructure, government official salary, etc. Japanese people will cry and be angry toward their government if their government reduce those budget allocations for the sake inflating military budget

If you talk about foreign exchange that Japanese govt lend to US or purchase US'gov bond when you refer "mountain of money", then the use of the huge amount of foreign exchange by selling US gov bond will make Yen free fall alongwith huge mounting Japanese government debt.

That if you understand macro economic

 

[Suika]

Hei @Suika. I read a news about Japanese old People actually are tended by the government with Japanese Young money. Won't it burden Japanese Young more? Without that tax, Japanese Young can save money to marry, have children, etc. But if burdened by that payment, then won't it restrict them financially in many way?

What do you think about that?

Poland have the same policy, and their young prefer to leave the country and live else where. I know this, because I have a Poland friend who left his country to other place because he dislike that policy.



A. So basically you said that Vietnam copy what China is doing in developing their military? Ok, case close.
But, I still don't believe that Vietnam can stand against a Japanese Invasion. Specially with their lucky number Aircraft Carriers. Plus, you have been ensnared by them. Do you think that you still have a chance now?

B. Japan just rich, like China. They are not mega rich, overshadowing everybody else. But they have a mountain of debt too. So it's hard to believe that Japanese will prefer to raise their military spending. Because economy development and public welfare is more important than 10 Aircraft Carriers.

There are many points. First is that quite a lot of old people remain busy and working past retirement, doing things that they can still do, like selling lunch boxes, given hair cuts, providing Japanese lessons, etc. Another point is that more women are entering the work force. For handling children, more nursery schools are made and pay for nursery school teachers increases. There are also plans to provide financial options to children of families that struggle to pay for education in high school and universities.

Another point is increase of international work force. There are many people in countries like Vietnam, the Philippines, Indonesia, and India, that want to work in Japan. Of course there are news about under pay or black market for workers, but its minimal. Great majority will still be able to earn an attractive amount than otherwise if remaining in their home country.

A couple of more points.. the fertility rate in Japan is 1.41-1.45 or something like that. It's low. But in comparison to other countries, it actually isn't the lowest like what has been depicted of Japan. Poland, Spain, South Korea, Singapore, Hungary have lower fertility rates, and a handful of other countries aren't really much higher. And finally, as part of the Japanese government's policy for addressing the aging and shrinking population, a target of 1.8 has been stated. Of course it is probably optimistic coming from politicians, but the conditions with labor, elderly, and schools are changing to make a better environment for raising children. 1.8 may not be achieved with the current administration, but the direction seems to indicate a recovery rather then continued decline. Besides some people think that 127 million is a little too much. Tokyo trains can only cram in so many people. And Japan is not a bread basket country. So the more people, the more dependency on importing food. 100 million population may not be bad, although for me I'd rather not see the population go below 100 million.