Japan to despatch helicopter carrier to South China Sea

[haidian]

Biddings like taking the lead of CPTPP?

If you try to deny that US controls Japan you are just fooling yourself. debate on something else, not obvious fact that everyone in this world knows.

 

[Suika]

If you try to deny that US controls Japan you are just fooling yourself. debate on something else, not obvious fact that everyone in this world knows.

You just say that because you know that the PRC agenda of regional control is impossible unless the US-Japan alliance breaks. So you try to smear and undermine that relation despite coming up with no hard evidence and just rely on impression building.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Oh good, then I can expect no problems in acknowledging Japanese presence in the SCS on the mission of a "Free Indo-Pacific" region.

You can come to SCS any time to ensure the freedom of navigation and we do the same over Japanese islands, how about that, fair deal

 

[Suika]

You can come to SCS any time to ensure the freedom of navigation and we do the same over Japanese islands, how about that, fair deal

That doesn't work because both the areas of H-6 bomber flight paths and the South China Sea are international space. The territorial waters around the Japanese islands are Japanese territory. So you got it wrong.

 

[haidian]

You just say that because you know that the PRC agenda of regional control is impossible unless the US-Japan alliance breaks. So you try to smear and undermine that relation despite coming up with no hard evidence and just rely on impression building.

Alliance? Anyone believe that US and Japan are equal partners? They still occupy your land, Japan can not have a independant foreign policy without consulting US, Japan's economic downturn was made by US and yet Japanese government can do nothing.... the list goes on. It's a slave and master relationship and everyone can see it.

 

[Suika]

Alliance? Anyone believe that US and Japan are equal partners? They still occupy your land, Japan can not have a independant foreign policy without consulting US, Japan's economic downturn was made by US and yet Japanese government can do nothing.... the list goes on. It's a slave and master relationship and everyone can see it.

The US is the bigger country so they have a lot of influence. US forces was an occupying force, but now they are an invited force. US military presence in the Asia-Pacific depends on cooperation with Japan. If the US wants to go head to head with the PLAN and PLAAF, then why should Japan want to remove the US bases in Japan?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

That doesn't work because both the areas of H-6 bomber flight paths and the South China Sea are international space. The territorial waters around the Japanese islands are Japanese territory. So you got it wrong.

Islands is island regardless if Chinese or Japanese. you don't recognized our islands, we will never recognize Japanese islands...pure and simple

 

[haidian]

The US is the bigger country so they have a lot of influence. US forces was an occupying force, but now they are an invited force. US military presence in the Asia-Pacific depends on cooperation with Japan. If the US wants to go head to head with the PLAN and PLAAF, then why should Japan want to remove the US bases in Japan?

Are you joking? Can you uninvite them? You want to be friendly with Russia but because of US you have to sanction Russia too, Whatever US does you just follow, you are just an US lapdog and admit it.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Biddings like taking the lead of CPTPP?

TPP is trong enough to counter US. We also can form a TPP military bloc in case US try to attack TPP members

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The US is the bigger country so they have a lot of influence. US forces was an occupying force, but now they are an invited force. US military presence in the Asia-Pacific depends on cooperation with Japan. If the US wants to go head to head with the PLAN and PLAAF, then why should Japan want to remove the US bases in Japan?

Invited force? seriously what kind of joke is that? simply because you can't do the jack that Japan is been occupied whether Japanese like it or not and you turn around an portray that as invited force, how low can you Japanese be?...do you know what's call dignity?

 

[Suika]

Islands is island regardless if Chinese or Japanese. you don't recognized our islands, we will never recognize Japanese islands...pure and simple

The South China Sea isn't an island. It's a sea. Maybe the 9 dashes should be redrawn to only closely encompass the 7 PRC features in the SCS instead of encircling the whole sea if going by your logic.

Are you joking? Can you uninvite them? You want to be friendly with Russia but because of US you have to sanction Russia too, Whatever US does you just follow, you are just an US lapdog and admit it.

Yeah, becoming stupid like DPRK is one way. Or in Japan, there is a thing called elections, you heard about those things right? There are anti-base politicians in Japan. If their views become popular, then they get voted, and US bases would start to dwindle. But the US and Japan generally see eye to eye on things like Taiwan, SCS, and DPRK, so...

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The South China Sea isn't an island. It's a sea. Maybe the 9 dashes should be redrawn to only closely encompass the 7 PRC features in the SCS instead of encircling the whole sea if going by your logic.

Nobody prevent you from coming to SCS, I'm talking about islands.

 

[haidian]

Japan has territorial dispute with every nation in its neighborhood, China, Russia, South Korea, North Korea. Once US retreats in the near future due to its fast declining strength in this region, Japan will be in hot water like a dog abandoned by the master and becomes a street stray.

 

[Suika]

TPP is trong enough to counter US. We also can form a TPP military bloc in case US try to attack TPP members

It is true that the US could walk a line different from Japanese interest. I don't see it happening, but partnership with Vietnam helps strengthen Japan's security interest

Nobody prevent you from coming to SCS, I'm talking about islands.

Better stop drawing the 9 dash line map to make it believable.

 

[haidian]

Yeah, becoming stupid like DPRK is one way. Or in Japan, there is a thing called elections, you heard about those things right? There are anti-base politicians in Japan. If their views become popular, then they get voted, and US bases would start to dwindle. But the US and Japan generally see eye to eye on things like Taiwan, SCS, and DPRK, so...

You are trying to debate a common sense that everyone knows, US controls Japan. Further effort to deny it will only make you sound helpless.