***** Japan Threatens to Stop Funding UNESCO *****

[Dungeness]

It IS a way to protest, so I don't see why you are fuzzed.

It is a way to protest, but it doesn't seem noble.

 

[jhungary]

It is a way to protest, but it doesn't seem noble.

Well...........all I can say is politic is dirty.......Nobody, not even China, play clean

 

[gambit]

Well, it is not that relevant since every countries of the world use cohesion for its own interest.

I think the one that use it the most, belongs to the national flag that you are displaying. Should I then concluded that US if put under similar circumstances, would first put political pressure, and then economical sanction, and if that doesn't work, military action to topple over the UN!! Because as you suggest, past behaviors provide a hint on future behaviors.

There are event and there are event. Nanjing Massacre is a world significant event that has a well established, main stream world view. It is unwise to even attempt to white-wash such a well accepted view.

Anybody that has some understanding of how the world work, would have understand that the UN could not possibly give in to Japanese threat. That threat is empty.

And your logic of a hypothetical <insert country here> would react as "childish" as Japan would, do not make the Japanese's act any less unwise. Two wrong doesn't make a right.

Then all the more reasons you Chinese should stop giving Japan a hard time since you pretty much admitted that all countries want at least the appearance of being saintly. Stop trying to put your China on a high moral horse when your own actions in Tibet warrants submission. Calling Japan's response 'childish' is childish in its own way when you know, without admitting it, that your China would do similar, if not the same, if put into the same situation.

 

[Cossack25A1]

Most of my posts contain "LOL". I like making fun of people stupid logic. LOL Like I said, my point is to stick to the topic at hand. You know it I was right.


The Manila massacre deserves to be in UNESCO. If Aquino has any pride in his country, he will register. LOL

Then this means both the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward should also be in UNESCO, judging the "criteria" you presented.

 

[JSCh]

Then all the more reasons you Chinese should stop giving Japan a hard time since you pretty much admitted that all countries want at least the appearance of being saintly. Stop trying to put your China on a high moral horse when your own actions in Tibet warrants submission. Calling Japan's response 'childish' is childish in its own way when you know, without admitting it, that your China would do similar, if not the same, if put into the same situation.

Well, personally I think what Japanese has done is "childish".
And from reading the comments on many news network, I think there are a lot of other people that think the same way.
Calling a spade, a spade is what everyone is entitled to.
Irrespective of whether other countries would or would not react under similar circumstances.
I think it would hurt Japan national image regardless.

 

[gambit]

Then this means both the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward should also be in UNESCO, judging the "criteria" you presented.

Same with slavery in America...

Category:Memory of the World Register - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Australia with the Aborigines, China and Tibet, the Muslim conquests, the Christian Crusades, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, and just about every atrocities every country done.

But the list of what are in the register is nothing like that.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Dude, it said



It IS a way to protest, so I don't see why you are fuzzed.

Then it boils down to whether the amount Japan used to pay was mandatory or they were paying extra, out of good will.

Even the latter, still means no strings attached and shouldn‘t be used as leverage. And to think they can pay their war crimes to go away? well..it still sounds naive and childish to me.

 

[jhungary]

Then it boils down to whether the amount Japan used to pay was mandatory or they were paying extra, out of good will.

Even the latter, still means no strings attached and shouldn‘t be used as leverage. And to think they can pay their war crimes to go away? well..it still sounds naive and childish to me.

As I said, it was a mean to protest, you may think it's childish, but this is a way. As I said, US will and Did done this as well. So, I don't know what the fuzz is all about??

US cuts Unesco funds over vote for Palestinian seat - BBC News

 

[JSCh]

Korea seeks adding forced labor archives to UNESCO
By Kim Hyo-jin
Posted : 2015-09-13 14:31 Updated : 2015-09-13 19:54

Koreans forced to labor at a mine in Hokkaido, Japan, during World War II
/ Yonhap​

The government is seeking to add its archives on forced labor during the 1910-1945 Japanese colonial rule to the UNESCO heritage list, sources said Sunday.

A collection of 336,797 documents, photos and other materials on Japan's wartime forced labor is one of 12 items submitted to the Cultural Heritage Administration (CHA), they said.

The agency plans to pick two items by October and apply to list them as UNESCO Memory of the World before March.

"There has been a growing consensus among officials and scholars that the documentary heritage should be recognized by UNESCO since the listing of Japan's industrial sites as world heritage in July," a source said.

The new world heritage sites include seven coal mines and shipyards where nearly 60,000 Koreans were forced to work in the 1940s.

The move is to counter Japan's claims that there was no "forced labor" of Koreans at those sites.

"The UNESCO listing of Japan's wartime industrial sites and Japan's subsequent move to distort history raised concerns here," a government official said, asking not to be named.

"There will be international awareness campaigns about Japan's distorted perception of wartime atrocities in which the private sector will also participate."

Korea dropped its opposition after Japan agreed to make it clear of the historical fact in the registration and promised follow-up measures including the establishment of an information center to honor the victims.

Seoul and Tokyo, however, have been at odds over Japan's listing since Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida denied that there was "forced labor."

The archives of Japan's forced labor, if listed in the UNESCO Memory of the World, would put the brakes on its move to distort history, the official said.

The government set up a panel to support victims of wartime forced labor under the Prime Minister's Office in 2004, and has compiled the archives over the past 11 years.

Included are 227,141 investigation reports on damage to workers, 105,431 evaluation reports for victims' reparations, 2,525 oral statements, and 1,226 photos depicting forced labor.

The government views the archives as credible enough to meet the UNESCO criteria of uniqueness and significance in human history, the sources said.

The final items selected by the CHA will be submitted to the UNESCO Secretariat by March 31 next year.

Following the UNESCO International Advisory Committee's review of applicants, the final listing of world heritage will be decided with the endorsement by the director general around June or July, 2017.

If selected, the archives will be the South Korea's third documentary heritage to win UNESCO recognition in connection with its modern history.

In 2011, materials on the May 18th democratic uprising against military rule in 1980 were listed. Documents on Saemaul Undong, a government-initiated campaign that changed the country in the 1970s, were listed in 2013.

Various civic groups are set to mount a campaign to back the government's bid. The Korean association for the bereaved of forced laborers in Sakhalin has already gained 100,000 signatures.

hyojinkim@koreatimes.co.kr,​

Korea seeks adding forced labor archives to UNESCO

I think Japan's record when it come to their attitude towards WWII history is well known. A pig is always a pig no matter how much lipstick you paint on it.

 

[EAsian]

Same with slavery in America...

Category:Memory of the World Register - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Australia with the Aborigines, China and Tibet, the Muslim conquests, the Christian Crusades, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, and just about every atrocities every country done.

But the list of what are in the register is nothing like that.

Have you really checked the link you posted? What a joke you are?
Africa Christopher Okigbo Collection 2007 Christopher Okigbo Foundation, Brussels [4]
Benin Colonial archives 1997 National Archives, Porto-Novo [5]
Ethiopia Treasures from National Archives and Library Organizations 1997 National Archives and Library, Addis Ababa [6]
Madagascar Royal Archives (1824–1897) 2009 Department of National Archives, Antananarivo [7]
Mauritius Records of the French Occupation of Mauritius 1997 Mauritius Archives, Port Louis [8]
Namibia Letter Journals of Hendrik Witbooi 2005 National Archives of Namibia, Windhoek; Personal Archives of Dr. Klaus Goebel, Munich [9]
Senegal Fonds of the "Afrique occidentale française" (AOF) 1997 National Archives, Dakar [10]
South Africa The Bleek collection 1997 University of Cape Town/South African Library, Cape Town [11]
South Africa Criminal Court Case No. 253/1963 (State Versus N. Mandela and Others) 2007 The National Archives and Records Service of South Africa, Pretoria [12]
South Africa Liberation Struggle Living Archive Collection 2007 Doxa Productions, Hout Bay [13]
Tanzania German Records of the National Archives 1997 National Archives, Dar es Salaam [14]
Tanzania Collection of Arabic Manuscripts and Books 2003 Zanzibar National Archives, Zanzibar

 

[Cossack25A1]

Same with slavery in America...

Category:Memory of the World Register - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Australia with the Aborigines, China and Tibet, the Muslim conquests, the Christian Crusades, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, and just about every atrocities every country done.

But the list of what are in the register is nothing like that.

The problem about this issue is that some people will use the past as ammunition for their nationalistic rhetoric to the point that they would likely do such actions to other people or country that were inflicted onto them in the past.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

As I said, it was a mean to protest, you may think it's childish, but this is a way. As I said, US will and Did done this as well. So, I don't know what the fuzz is all about??

US cuts Unesco funds over vote for Palestinian seat - BBC News

Ya, the childish way.

US will and Did done this as well

So? The US did this because they can get away with it. Another childish thinking on Japan‘s part that they could pull off the same thing as the US.

 

[jhungary]

Ya, the childish way.


So? The US did this because they can get away with it. Another childish thinking on Japan‘s part that they could pull off the same thing as the US.

You seems to misunderstood hat I said.

EVERYONE DOES IT. EVEN CHINA

China banks pull out of IMF Tokyo meet amid island row: WSJ| Reuters

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

You seems to misunderstood hat I said.

EVERYONE DOES IT. EVEN CHINA

China banks pull out of IMF Tokyo meet amid island row: WSJ| Reuters

Nah that‘s boycotting，totally different.

Japan can do the same by not attending some UNESCO meetings, no one will call them childish.

 

[gambit]

The problem about this issue is that some people will use the past as ammunition for their nationalistic rhetoric to the point that they would likely do such actions to other people or country that were inflicted onto them in the past.

America said slavery was wrong. So was discrimination against blacks, Asians, and other groups, as well as what happened to the Native Americans. We taught this in our schools that what happened was wrong. When I was in West Germany, the Germans taught their people that what happened in WW II was wrong. When I was in Italy, the Italians admitted that Italian fascism was terrible for Italy and for Europe.

In contrast with the Chinese, if you read how the Chinese here spins what goes on in Tibet, you think that China is a saint. China is doing the Tibetans a favor by pulling them out of the dark ages, by force if necessary. Look at all the modern technology China is giving Tibet, etc. If the China-Tibet issue is put up to UNESCO, have no doubt China will howl to high heavens.

Official Records of Tibet from the Yuan Dynasty China, 1304-1367 | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

Probably to show how China owns Tibet.