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As the West fails the test of Russia's military assault on Ukraine, one nation can step in to punish Russian President Vladimir Putin and at the same time bolster its own defenses—Japan. Tokyo should work out a way to buy the Mistral-class amphibious attack ships that France has agreed to sell to Russia. That would relieve Paris of an embarrassing agreement and also help fulfill Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's plan to upgrade Japan's maritime defenses.
Back in 2009, before Ukraine but after Russia invaded Georgia, Paris and Moscow concluded a deal to sell up to four of the helicopter-carrying ships in a deal worth more than $1.5 billion dollars. Since then, as Russia's aggressions in Crimea and eastern Ukraine have consumed Western capitals, Paris has been at pains to uphold the deal. The French position, of course, encapsulates much of the Western confusion over how to deal with Mr. Putin's aggression. Only in the last week, in response to the destruction of MH17, has the West enacted more robust sanctions to show its displeasure with Mr. Putin.

Since the atrocity in the skies over Ukraine, the danger of Russian aggression has become clear to the world. Yet still European leaders are hamstrung by their military weaknesses while President Barack Obama has done almost everything possible to avoid confrontation with Mr. Putin. The West's inaction has helped Moscow steadily achieve its strategic goals.

One way to punish Vladimir Putin is to cut off Russia's access to the global arms market. Russia is the world's second largest arms dealer, after the United States, having sold $5.6 billion worth of military equipment so far through 2014. Western capitals should be putting as much pressure as possible on sellers to stop Moscow's naval buildup.

Numerous reports over the past several years have indicated that Moscow might send the Mistrals to the Far East. While much of this buildup is ostensibly aimed at protecting the Russian-held Kurile Islands from a mythical Japanese threat, the real aim would be to maintain Russian strength in northeast Asian waterways in light of China's continuing naval and air forces modernization.

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A French-built Mistral ship of the type being sold to Russia. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

Here is where some creative diplomacy could shake things up in Europe and Asia. If Paris and Tokyo came to an agreement for Japan to purchase the two Mistral ships currently planned for delivery to Moscow, it would send a message to Mr. Putin that his actions have consequences. It would also serve to limit Russia's ongoing military buildup and give teeth to a recently-announced European Union arms embargo. It would also put the Champs-Elysees on the right side of the moral issue of opposing aggression.

A Japanese move to buy the ships would test France's commitment to keeping the peace in Europe. If the sale is all about jobs, then Japanese yen are just as good as Russian rubles. Perhaps a weakened West just needs some options in order to do what it knows is in its best interests.

For Tokyo, purchase of the Mistrals would give it two advanced amphibious assault ships that could be used to ferry troops or carry helicopters to provide cover to threatened islands. It would complement its two large Izumo-class helicopter destroyers, one of which was launched last year. Adding the Mistrals to the mix would give Tokyo the ability to protect both the contested Senkaku Islands in the southern East China Sea, as well as to maintain a significant presence in northern waters. This one move would strengthen Japan's ability to remain credible in light of both Russia's and China's military buildup.

From a diplomatic perspective, offering to cut France's Gordian Knot over the Mistrals would be ample evidence that Mr. Abe is a leading global player committed to maintaining the liberal international order that is under assault the world over. Moral outrage is not enough to stem the weakening of global order; nations must be willing to take responsibility for defending it.

Japan Should Buy the Mistrals - WSJ
 
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As the West fails the test of Russia's military assault on Ukraine, one nation can step in to punish Russian President Vladimir Putin and at the same time bolster its own defenses—Japan. Tokyo should work out a way to buy the Mistral-class amphibious attack ships that France has agreed to sell to Russia. That would relieve Paris of an embarrassing agreement and also help fulfill Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's plan to upgrade Japan's maritime defenses.
Back in 2009, before Ukraine but after Russia invaded Georgia, Paris and Moscow concluded a deal to sell up to four of the helicopter-carrying ships in a deal worth more than $1.5 billion dollars. Since then, as Russia's aggressions in Crimea and eastern Ukraine have consumed Western capitals, Paris has been at pains to uphold the deal. The French position, of course, encapsulates much of the Western confusion over how to deal with Mr. Putin's aggression. Only in the last week, in response to the destruction of MH17, has the West enacted more robust sanctions to show its displeasure with Mr. Putin.

Since the atrocity in the skies over Ukraine, the danger of Russian aggression has become clear to the world. Yet still European leaders are hamstrung by their military weaknesses while President Barack Obama has done almost everything possible to avoid confrontation with Mr. Putin. The West's inaction has helped Moscow steadily achieve its strategic goals.

One way to punish Vladimir Putin is to cut off Russia's access to the global arms market. Russia is the world's second largest arms dealer, after the United States, having sold $5.6 billion worth of military equipment so far through 2014. Western capitals should be putting as much pressure as possible on sellers to stop Moscow's naval buildup.

Numerous reports over the past several years have indicated that Moscow might send the Mistrals to the Far East. While much of this buildup is ostensibly aimed at protecting the Russian-held Kurile Islands from a mythical Japanese threat, the real aim would be to maintain Russian strength in northeast Asian waterways in light of China's continuing naval and air forces modernization.

Enlarge Image
BN-DX498_edp080_D_20140731104824.jpg

A French-built Mistral ship of the type being sold to Russia. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

Here is where some creative diplomacy could shake things up in Europe and Asia. If Paris and Tokyo came to an agreement for Japan to purchase the two Mistral ships currently planned for delivery to Moscow, it would send a message to Mr. Putin that his actions have consequences. It would also serve to limit Russia's ongoing military buildup and give teeth to a recently-announced European Union arms embargo. It would also put the Champs-Elysees on the right side of the moral issue of opposing aggression.

A Japanese move to buy the ships would test France's commitment to keeping the peace in Europe. If the sale is all about jobs, then Japanese yen are just as good as Russian rubles. Perhaps a weakened West just needs some options in order to do what it knows is in its best interests.

For Tokyo, purchase of the Mistrals would give it two advanced amphibious assault ships that could be used to ferry troops or carry helicopters to provide cover to threatened islands. It would complement its two large Izumo-class helicopter destroyers, one of which was launched last year. Adding the Mistrals to the mix would give Tokyo the ability to protect both the contested Senkaku Islands in the southern East China Sea, as well as to maintain a significant presence in northern waters. This one move would strengthen Japan's ability to remain credible in light of both Russia's and China's military buildup.

From a diplomatic perspective, offering to cut France's Gordian Knot over the Mistrals would be ample evidence that Mr. Abe is a leading global player committed to maintaining the liberal international order that is under assault the world over. Moral outrage is not enough to stem the weakening of global order; nations must be willing to take responsibility for defending it.

Japan Should Buy the Mistrals - WSJ

This presents a good opportunity to learn from China. Japan should take advantage of the Ukraine distraction to reclaim the Kurils, unless it has certain energy dependence issues with Russia. If the nuclear reactors can be restarted in short order, then the path will be cleared.
 
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This presents a good opportunity to learn from China. Japan should take advantage of the Ukraine distraction to reclaim the Kurils, unless it has certain energy dependence issues with Russia. If the nuclear reactors can be restarted in short order, then the path will be cleared.

Most wtf post I've read from you. If Russia can't recover the islands through conventional military force (all indications suggest they can), they will go nuclear. If you border the bear (conveniently enough for you, you don't), don't poke it when it's in its current highly distressed and aggrieved state.
 
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Most wtf post I've read from you. If Russia can't recover the islands through conventional military force (all indications suggest they can), they will go nuclear. If you border the bear (conveniently enough for you, you don't), don't poke it when it's in its current highly distressed and aggrieved state.

Given Russia's performance against Georgia, are you certain Russia could recover the islands using conventional military forces? What makes you think Russia would be willing to start WWIII by using nuclear weapons to recover the Kuril Islands?
 
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Given Russia's performance against Georgia, are you certain Russia could recover the islands using conventional military forces? What makes you think Russia would be willing to start WWIII by using nuclear weapons to recover the Kuril Islands?


Russia's military is tough. Heck, even Ukraine's military, which is crap compared to Russia's military, did some pretty nasty damage to Donbas. Russia would never give up a square inch of its territory, even if nukes be used. Japan lost over a million soldiers in China during WW2. Japan would lose over 10 million soldiers if Japan tries to take Kurils from Russia.

Japan doesn't have anything like Russia's Ratnik warrior suit.

 
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Even conventionaly Japan can't match Russian equipment and conventionaly power.Russia is second conventional power in the world.

But I highly doubt Kiril Islands will trigger another Russo Japanese war.It is just blah blah...both countries want to prosper on economy basis,Russia to avoid recession and Japan to encourage economic growth.
 
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Given Russia's performance against Georgia, are you certain Russia could recover the islands using conventional military forces? What makes you think Russia would be willing to start WWIII by using nuclear weapons to recover the Kuril Islands?

You really think that US would risk it's own destruction to save the Kuril Islands?

I dont think that the US would risk its existence for the Japanese mainland even.
 
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Russias performance in georgia? First of all it was the first conflict since the end of the ussr and the Russian military was in shambles. Have you seen it lately? Or was your question made more out of ignorance? Basing any analysis of Russian military strength after one tiny conflict at a time when the military was just starting to regroup is not something an intelligent analyst would do.

Now as to what happened in Georgia? They attacked Russia and the Russian counter attack put the georgian israeli trained and armed military in full retreat in, wait for it, 5 hours. Of course many mistakes were made and it wasnt the best showing but try to sift through your nato propaganda for a minute. And try to see what really happened. And remove the nato spin from everything you type. Youll sound less ignorant that way.

Propaganda is not truth. It is trying to omit facts you either dont know or think the other party doesnt know in order to spin a much more convincing narrative. But once the facts come out, that false narrative crumbles faster than isis would crumble if nato and the gcc stopped funding them.

Do you recall iraq afghanistan or vietnam for that matter? Look in the mirror before trying to point a finger at someone else. The usa with all its vast military superiority and look. They couldnt even take down a couple third world countries.

On the other hand Putin is winning in Syria and Ukraine against nato beheaders and fascists and he stopped a nato invasion of Syria just by parking his Black Sea fleet in front of Syria. The man is a master strategist. He is the type of leader that comes around once in a lifetime, once in a century. And he isnt about to lose Russian land to a decrepit japan or nato. He has defined this century. This is the century the nato empire crumbles and Eurasia rises. I personally hope japan is smart enough to join the party.






Given Russia's performance against Georgia, are you certain Russia could recover the islands using conventional military forces? What makes you think Russia would be willing to start WWIII by using nuclear weapons to recover the Kuril Islands?
 
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