Japan says Friendless China will face its Might and that of the World in any Conflict

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Keep saying that. I got no problems. Those missiles will explode in China with nukes if push comes to shove...and we can glass entire China should it come to that.


Incorrect.
China has never been a hegemon of the World. China was never has been a hegemon of Asia. China however has been a hegemon of East Asia. There is a significant difference between the three.

India will not allow China to be the hegemon of Asia.

Asia as in east asia and the confucian sphere. Only an idiot will think that China will not be hegemon of east Asia.

The subcontinent can do as they please, just stay on their side of the himalayas.

 

[California]

we will always protect our allies in East !

facing Japan = Facing The US.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

we will always protect our allies in East !

facing Japan = Facing The US.

Says one dude. Everyone else in the U.S is much smarter than risking a war for a few scattered islands.

There will be no war, peace is always preferable and I even believe that the warmongers in Washington knows better than to fight a war with China when posturing is enough.

 

[Desist]

Asia as in east asia and the confucian sphere. Only an idiot will think that China will not be hegemon of east Asia.

The subcontinent can do as they please, just stay on their side of the himalayas.

Now your statement is correct. You mention East Asia.

As long as China sticks to East Asia, India has no problems with China. However since China is not doing that and wants to take lands that are under Indian control, the Subcontinent will also try to expand and influence East Asia.

 

[California]

Says one dude. Everyone else in the U.S is much smarter than risking a war for a few scattered islands.

There will be no war, peace is always preferable and I even believe that the warmongers in Washington knows better than to fight a war with China when posturing is enough.

we always fought for our people and our allies. and trust me we americans are "war hungry" people. nothing is too much for us.

but i agree. status que is way to go.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Now your statement is correct. You mention East Asia.

As long as China sticks to East Asia, India has no problems with China. However since China is not doing that and wants to take lands that are under Indian control, the Subcontinent will also try to expand and influence East Asia.

Oh please, when did China take Indian land? India insisted on the Mcmahon line which was drawn up of Europeans and the Qing Empire did not ratify such a boundary. The 1962 war was started by Nehru and caused hundreds of PLA deaths during a great famine in China. Indian Deaths were your own fault for instigating the war.

 

[California]

Now your statement is correct. You mention East Asia.

As long as China sticks to East Asia, India has no problems with China. However since China is not doing that and wants to take lands that are under Indian control, the Subcontinent will also try to expand and influence East Asia.

if i remeber correctly Buddhaism is an indian religion.

even my aunt is buddhist.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

word India is derived from indus (present day Pakistan). Wanna be Indians dont have self respect to name their country after thier own rivers called ganga, jumna etc.

So bro the indian ocean, indian subcontinent is named after land of Pakistan.. Aka Indus valley not ganga valley or jummna valley....

Thank you, young brother, for this information.

I always wondered why do these people of the plains call themselves indians.

British called their colony british india.

Dutch called their colony dutch india and French called theirs Indo-Chine or French india.

Dutch india become indonesia.

French india returned to its original name Vietnaam.

Only these south asians of the plains droped the british and become indian. A truly foreign name.

At least your country designed a central asian name to identitfy itself. Stan.

Isn't Indus a word with Latin root or Latin itself?

Just curious...what you call your great river in your own language?

Did moghuls called their empire india?

Thanks!

 

[California]

India have no claim on North East regions of present day republic of India.

same way chinese have no claim on East Turkstan and Tibet.

both of u just go away and stop derailing this thread.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarkanath_Kotnis
Yes well,in china's darkest hour india was not an enemy.Dont mock soldiers unless u have been to the battlefield.

Hey I always maintained that India is a friend of China. Its your countrymen here who wants war.

 

[Beidou2020]

Yeah we already tested the controlled Nuclear weapon design in 1998 Asuming We still not upgraded Its Design Is Stupidity of Highest order Expected from 50 cent troller bot

I din't give single F what CCP propaganda feeds you
These Are H-bomb Warhead Designs india Developed Yields 150-200KT We are Already Build Facility For Production

India's Nuclear Mysore Facility of H-Bomb Production Cited By Both SPRI and US Report

“Taking into account all the enriched uranium likely to be needed by the Indian nuclear submarine fleet, there is likely to be a significant excess,” said Matthew Clements, editor of IHS Jane’s Intelligence Review, according toReuters. “One potential use of this would be for the development of thermonuclear weapons.”

This assessment has been seconded by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI). In arecent research brief, SIRPI noted, “A new unsafeguarded gas centrifuge facility appears to be under construction at the Rare Metals Plant near Mysore. India’s expanded centrifuge enrichment capacity has been motivated by plans to build new naval propulsion reactors, but the potential excess capacity could also signify its intent to move towards thermonuclear weapons by blending the current plutonium arsenal with uranium secondaries.”

Development Of the Mysore Facility Over Years

http://thediplomat.com/2014/06/is-india-building-thermonuclear-weapons/

Source :
https://www.publicintegrity.org/201...worry-india-creating-new-fuel-arsenal-h-bombs


Shakti I thermonuclear device Which was the underground Test Abdul Kalam also said that the thermonuclear bomb's yield was designed to be at 200 kilotons of TNT (840 TJ) but it had to reduced to 50 KT kilotons of TNT (190 TJ) to minimize seismic damage to villages near the test range; the closest village to the test range, Khetolai, was a mere 5 kilometres (3.1 mi) away
See the Image below

Fizzle' claim for thermonuclear test refuted

The government on Thursday strongly refuted claims that the 1998 test of a thermonuclear device had been a failure, with Principal Scientific Adviser R. Chidambaram telling The Hindu that those questioning the tests yield had an obligation to back up their charge with scientific evidence.

He was responding to the recent statement by a former defence scientist, K. Santhanam, that “the yield in the thermonuclear device test was much lower than what was claimed.” Mr. Santhanam, who cited only unspecified “seismic measurements and expert opinion from world over,” went on to say that this was the reason India should not sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).

“If Mr. Santhanam has any scientific data to back up what he has claimed, I am sure BARC scientists would be more than happy to debate it,” said Dr. Chidambaram. “Without that, this kind of statement means nothing.”

Source:
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article10457.ece?homepage=true

What you Missed to from Wikipedia In your Hastiness to prove Me wrong
The BARC approximated the blast yields at 58 kilotons of TNT (240 TJ) that were obtained at the site 3 km from the test shafts on 11 May 1998. The BARC described the tests as a "complete success, and it was determined that all the devices and their components had performed flawlessly."On 17 May 1998, Abdul Kalam and R. Chidambaram held a press conference to validate BARC's data to remove all doubts.

They have test data to Prove it

India currently has 3 types of nuclear weapons in its arsenal. These are:

(1) Thermonuclear Device

(2) Fusion boosted Fission Bomb ( 2 types - Weapon grade plutonium & Reactor grade Plutonium)

(3) Fission Plutonium Bomb (2 types - Low Yield & High Yield )

After the 58 kiloton Pokhran-II nuclear tests India received its first fusion boosted weapon device . Present-day thermonuclear weapons need plutonium or highly enriched uranium to set off the hydrogen-bomb part.Fusion produces 1 neutron for 14 MEV release of energy, while fission produces approximately 3-4 neutrons for 200 MEV release of energy. Ergo ,Fission is energy intensive whereas fusion is neutron intensive.

In an interview to the Federation of American Scientists Dr. R. Chidambaram (RC), Chairman, AEC & Secretary, DAE had clearly mentioned that a Thermonuclear weapon was indeed tested .

Press Conference

Shortly after POKHRAN II BARC published their radio-chemical analysis estimate of the S-1(Fusion Weapon) yield . The raw data has not been presented as it could reveal the specifics of the weapon design. However, it provides a qualitative method of determining the efficacy of the tests.

Page on barc.gov.in

Two controversies gathered storm after Pokhran 2(thanks largely to speculations made by commentators who were never even present during the tests) . First , the yield of the Thermonuclear explosion was lower than what was declared & Second , just 5 nuclear tests isn't enough to develop the nuclear weapons that India intends to develop .

Needless to say that individuals from BARC , MoD , IA etc are parties to a Non Disclosure Non Circumventing agreement and therefore they cannot disclose information that is defined as confidential . Therefore , the other individuals who are stating the Yield figures are basically speculating based probably on their own understanding of Nuclear weapon yield . As a reminder , the yield-to-weight ratio is the amount of weapon yield compared to the mass of the weapon.

Also , detractors used the Wallace Analysis to state that the yield was less . Now the formula that Wallace used was arbitrary in nature and therefore the appropriateness of this formula is debatable . The formula is dependent on two variables - seismic signal generated by the test and size of the crater formed. However, Scaling Laws clearly explains that since the scaling laws themselves are changing it is very difficult to use Scaling Laws to measure Shot Effects . While , it is possible that the actual yield of the Thermonuclear weapon was somewhat less than the figure of 45 kilo tons that was disclosed by GOI it is certainly not as low as the figures circulated by certain Western Analysts .

Use plural, India has thermonuclear bombs: Kakodkar

In other words,the S1 is the thermonuclear device that was tested . So , after the test, the S1 ( it's military designation will be different) became India's thermonuclear weapon.


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For Non Technically Educated Trolls and leaders
Read the second controversy of INDIA not carrying out enough nuclear tests to get all the data required to design a Thermonuclear weapon , fact remains that with the advent of Scalable supercomputer clustering , nuclear explosions can be Simulated down to the molecular level. Therefore , India does not need to carry out as many nuclear tests as the P-5 members did in the 60s and 70s unless of course India wants to drastically change the physical and mathematical models that describe the nuclear explosion that is being simulated. This is because throwing more computing resources at a simulation whose fundamental equations are flawed will not improve the accuracy of the solution.



Field Evaluation Report of Nuclear test Site by Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC)

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The types of weapons India is believed to have available for its arsenal include:

• a pure fission plutonium bomb with a yield of 12 kt;
• a fusion boosted fission bomb with a yield of 15-20 kt, made with weapon-grade ploutonium;
• a fusion boosted fission bomb design, made with reactor-grade plutonium;
• low yield pure fission plutonium bomb designs with yields from 0.1 kt to 1 kt;
• a thermonuclear bomb design with a yield of 200-300 kt.

Public information and trade estimates indicate following types of Indian RV warheads:

1. Mk-4: For light weight 17Kt Fusion Boosted Fission (FBF) warhead5. Mass6: ~180 Kg7.
2. Mk-5: For 50Kt FBF or 200Kt Thermo Nuclear (TN) warhead8. Mass: ~340 Kg
3. Mk-6: For 150Kt FBF warhead9. Mass: ~550 Kg.

India is Now Building Future Weapons and delivery system to counter China

With Agni-6 or K series SLBMs Which can carry 6-8 RV Mk-5 and Mk-6 Which Yields upto 150-200KT

In Single Agni-6 Missile or K series SLBM are MIRV or MARV
200KTx 6/8 warheads =1.2- 1.6 MT

India Nuclear Submarine INS Aridhaman can carry 8 K series SLBMs

Now calculate 1.6 Mt x 8 Missiles =12.8 Megatons

You certainly seem to care what I think

Indian propaganda apparatus can try all they want, you ain't fooling anyone. The only hydrogen bombs India has are on paper and on Wikipedia pages....edited by delusional Indians like yourself.

India STILL don't have hydrogen bombs. This is a fact.

You will need a lot more than bragging to develop hydrogen bombs.

Keep saying that. I got no problems. Those missiles will explode in China with nukes if push comes to shove...and we can glass entire China should it come to that.


Incorrect.
China has never been a hegemon of the World. China was never has been a hegemon of Asia. China however has been a hegemon of East Asia. There is a significant difference between the three.

India will not allow China to be the hegemon of Asia.

The only country at risk of being turned into glass by primitive Indian missiles is.....India itself.

Even North Korea missiles are more reliable than Indian missiles

 

[Jlaw]

America has friends? You mean little puppets that kiss their masters' *&*&?

LOL, *** kissers are called friends nowadays did you not know that?

 

[KN-1]

Thank you, young brother, for this information.

I always wondered why do these people of the plains call themselves indians.

British called their colony british india.

Dutch called their colony dutch india and French called theirs Indo-Chine or French india.

Dutch india become indonesia.

French india returned to its original name Vietnaam.

Only these south asians of the plains droped the british and become indian. A truly foreign name.

At least your country designed a central asian name to identitfy itself. Stan.

Isn't Indus a word with Latin root or Latin itself?

Just curious...what you call your great river in your own language?

Did moghuls called their empire india?

Thanks!

indus is derived from greek words for river indus and greek used word such as indic, indica to discribe people of indus in their ancient books.

We use word sindh for river Indus, other names of Indian subcontinent {which we used before brits is Hind, and Hindustan} are also derived from word sindh or sindhu..
Hindus were people who used to live on bank of river indus in ancient times.

Persian when conqured indus valley in ancient times they used to call it hindush and its people hindu..

Mughal used word Hindustan or Hind..

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Oh please, when did China take Indian land? India insisted on the Mcmahon line which was drawn up of Europeans and the Qing Empire did not ratify such a boundary. The 1962 war was started by Nehru and caused hundreds of PLA deaths during a great famine in China. Indian Deaths were your own fault for instigating the war.

The british in their great game with the russian czars created a buffer zone with artificial line... with South Tibet under their colonial control.

Same in the north eastern states all the way to Burma as part of the british colonial empire.

India annexed South Tibet illegally in the early 50's and changed its name to some hindu sounding word.

Same with the north eastern states.

These illegally occupied and annexed terrriories are still ruled by non local hindu admistration and the indian army.

There was never a state called india until british came to colonise and unified all their colonies in south asia under one banner: british india.

When they left in '47 they gave the present day indian charge of their british colony...with present day PK and BD separating from the hindu rule.

The british idea was to create a counter balance to China as they wished to maintain their hold on HK and keep China contained. They played their great game rather well.

India only got its independence from UK in the mid or early 50's...for almost for ten years the india was called british dominion with the british queen as its sovereign.

indian can be very selective in the invention of their history and mehtology.

Why should we waste time with those who are happy to live with a foreign name?

Let us clear the muddy waters by leaving them alone.

 

[Beidou2020]

indus is derived from greek words for river indus and greek used word such as indic, indica to discribe people of indus in their ancient books.

We use word sindh for river Indus, other names of Indian subcontinent {which we used before brits is Hind, and Hindustan} are also derived from word sindh or sindhu..
Hindus were people who used to live on bank of river indus in ancient times.

Persian when conqured indus valley in ancient times they used to call it hindush and its people hindu..

Mughal used word Hindustan or Hind..

There was no country called 'India' in human history. It's an artificially created country by the British. It's the country that has the highest risk of balkanisation considering the dozens of separatist movements.