Japan says Friendless China will face its Might and that of the World in any Conflict

[phancong]

Japan talking tough that hide behind a alliance of nations.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Japan has friends?

Maybe.

Does Japan have friends who would go to war with China?

Bullshit.

Look at this shitty O.P article, doesnt even have a source. Asia with China as hegemon = peace and prosperity. Asia with Japan as pretender hegemon = war and misery. We have seen this in history. Japan should just stfu and remember that they are the worst perpetrators of war crimes in human history.

Japan talking tough that hide behind a alliance of nations.

They know they are next after the SCS issue is cleared up.

 

[KN-1]

China should not be worried about wanna be shupa powa. Just help us with defence industry, we will keep monkeys in our east at bay,

south asia except india have mutual interests with china thats why every country of south asia be it Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, srilanka, burma, nepal or maldieves love China and support China..

 

[xiao qi]

Sure don't form groups. Then who will come to your aid when China is at your gates? You have to cultivate relationships and alliances so that your strong beforehand and China never dares to eye what is yours

Yes, we will make friend with anybody, it doesn't mean we must attend league or military group to against China. Vietnam is the only small nation and too near China. If we attend, China also does that to Cambodia, Laos to counter us. I assert If we join, Vietnam will get more damage than interests

 

[Desist]

Look at this shitty O.P article, doesnt even have a source. Asia with China as hegemon = peace and prosperity.

China will never be allowed to become the hegemon of Asia.

 

[RepublicOk]

China have alot to lose if war breaks out over the South China Sea issue. Their economy will be doomed along with millions of lives lost. Sure China's adversaries will also be affected but China will never ever rise up again. It will be Balkanised.

India should remain neutral and not go into direct confrontation and watch the show from the sidelines. We should just provide some help to the Chinese adversaries, like aid(military and non military - Nothing too special that would make China turn their guns on us too) . Just like how certain countries provided help to Pakistan during the wars with India but still maintains relationship with India.
After the war, we can jump in and take a big piece of the pie.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I think that there is an ongoing misconception by Indian members here who state that China have no friends. China does have friends and not just Pakistan. Friends in Africa, Russia, Latin America, eastern europe and Asia.

When you trade with a lot of countries as their largest trading partner you eventually develop a connection. China is not isolated.

India on the other hand seem to have no good will in their immediate neighborhood and only seem to think that they are part of a greater league of democracies.

BTW, Indian comrades, I hope you learn some history and know of the atrocities commited by the imperial Japanese army on your countrymen. In 1962, captured indian soldiers were well treated, their rifles polished and cleaned and sent back to India in good health.

Look what japan did:

http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/japanese-troops-using-prisoners-target-practice-1942/

Action speaks louder than words. Japan tortures and kill your people and call you friend? If I was Indian I would tell them to fcuk off.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Look at this shitty O.P article, doesnt even have a source. Asia with China as hegemon = peace and prosperity. Asia with Japan as pretender hegemon = war and misery. We have seen this in history. Japan should just stfu and remember that they are the worst perpetrators of war crimes in human history.

They know they are next after the SCS issue is cleared up.

Asia doesnt want any 'hegemon' ,asia doesnt need any hegemon.As long as china understands that nobody has a problem with it.There will be no hegemon in asia..neither china or japan.Any attempts to assert hegemony naturally lead to coalitions..as a reaction.This is not to take away the historical crimes of the IJA,but that cant be used as an excuse to change international territorial boundaries.

 

[Beast]

China have alot to lose if war breaks out over the South China Sea issue. Their economy will be doomed along with millions of lives lost. Sure China's adversaries will also be affected but China will never ever rise up again. It will be Balkanised.

India should remain neutral and not go into direct confrontation and watch the show from the sidelines. We should just provide some help to the Chinese adversaries, like aid(military and non military - Nothing too special that would make China turn their guns on us too) . Just like how certain countries provided help to Pakistan during the wars with India but still maintains relationship with India.
After the war, we can jump in and take a big piece of the pie.

If a war start with China, the country who start it will not survived.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

China will never be allowed to become the hegemon of Asia.

How can they 'never' when they were in the past?

Asia doesnt want any 'hegemon' ,asia doesnt need any hegemon.As long as china understands that nobody has a problem with it.There will be no hegemon in asia..neither china or japan.Any attempts to assert hegemony naturally lead to coalitions..as a reaction.This is not to take away the historical crimes of the IJA,but that cant be used as an excuse to change international territorial boundaries.

The current boundaries and laws of the sea were drawn up in a time of European and japanese ascendancy and Chinese weakness.

China is historically hegemon of East Asia, India is Hegemon of South Asia. The order was changed during the colonial days but those few hundred years is a historical abberation, not the historical norm.

 

[RepublicOk]

If there a country on this planet that is primed for Balkanisation, it is India.

The thing is, you won't even need a war for it to happen.

Chill. I am just stating the inevitable in case war breaks out. Let's face it war with the US and its allies is gonna devastated your country beyond repair in this nuclear world.
Its not the like the old times anymore. You guys have everything to lose.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I've heard rumours that after the excellent treatment Chinese military provided to captured Indian soldiers, the Indian soldiers apparently refused to go back to India

They thought being captured by Chinese military was a MASSIVE improvement in their living conditions compared to what they experienced in India.

It's just a rumour though

Bro, India is historically a friend of China, only recently did they become hostile.

A strong India and strong China combo will have the likes of Europe and Japan brushed into the periphery of world order.

 

[RepublicOk]

If a war start with China, the country who start it will not survived.

Sure but neither will China.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

How can they 'never' when they were in the past?



The current boundaries and laws of the sea were drawn up in a time of European and japanese ascendancy and Chinese weakness.

China is historically hegemon of East Asia, India is Hegemon of South Asia. The order was changed during the colonial days but those few hundred years is a historical abberation, not the historical norm.

Yes what you say about the boundaries is true,but also the 9 dash line china claims is ridiculous as it takes away in many cases the economic zones in naval areas surrounding some of the nations..basically you are saying they have no maritime boundary.You can never impose such an absurdity against UN norms without a reaction from these countries which is what this paper talks of.
But this hegemony concept is really a 19th and 20th century one before the era of globalization.Physical military intimidation is no longer a truly viable tactic between developed countries in this era,things should be resolved by dialogue and economic co-operation.If china wants to extend its domination it should follow usa model of economic domination and alliance system.Instead of direct physical takeover like invasion-annexation.That will never work in this age,it gives usa a good excuse to create a ring of containment around china.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Yes what you say about the boundaries is true.But this hegemony concept is really a 19th and 20th century one before the era of globalization.Physical military intimidation is no longer a truly viable tactic between developed countries in this era,things should be resolved by dialogue and economic co-operation.If china wants to extend its domination it should follow usa model of economic domination and alliance system.Instead of direct physical takeover like invasion-annexation.That will never work in this age,it gives usa a good excuse to create a ring of containment around china.

Chinese claims are not false and the accusations of annexation is absurd. The territories were stolen from a weakened China and the worst perpetrator of war crimes and expansionism (Japan) is claiming innocence.

The island dispute will be left in the grey area of fishing and marine coast guards, military assets play little role.

China will be hegemon, time will prove this. Economics trump military in this day and age.