Japan defense budget request highest ever as Abe boosts military

[Aepsilons]

Economic size is the basis of power.

The bigger the economy, the greater the taxable base. The greater the taxable base, the more fiscal revenue the government can get from the public. The more revenue the government has, the higher the spending budget of the government.

The government can spend as much as it wants, but if they want to spend way beyond what the government has in revenue, then it has to run a big deficit.

If the government wants to increase spending and keep a small deficit, then it has to increase revenue.

The bigger the economy, the more revenue the government can ask from the public.

If the economy is small, the government don't have the ability to increase revenue as the economy can't support it. This causes the government to run massive deficits if it wants to increase spending.

China can dramatically increase the spending and keep a small budget deficit if it demands an increase in revenue from the taxable base.

You clearly have limited thinking skills, if you think the size of an economy is irrelevant

Japan does not have any hegemonic designs , nor is it flanked with a vast land border, so therefore it does not to prioritize a large standing army as compared to regional partners such as India, Indonesia, China, the Russian Federation, South Korea, North Korea. There are no designs on the JSDF to invade any nation unilaterally and neither would such an action be of benefit for Japan -- given its imperative to maintain its diplomatic relations with global partners and its dependency on trade. Don't translate our Government's security concerns regarding the Senkakus as some kind of inkling of Japanese designs to invade or conquer nation A, B, C or D. Because that is just absolutely not so.

Well in this case..... you're clearly under estimating the JDF... Actually i wonder if you can break their defences... And if your stating to the Senakaku Island its very tough for both parties to finish the task...and there's no way for China to put 2 million troops on that island ir it wouldn't need 2 million troops for that job..

To quote an old adage, 'Don't make a mountain out of a molehill'. I think this is a pertinent message for our regional partners -- especially in translating the context of Japan's defense expenditure and equipment purchases.

 

[BoQ77]

Is this what you call 'hatred'?



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I don't call any "hatred" between this. You said.

 

[BoQ77]

Economic size is the basis of power.

The bigger the economy, the greater the taxable base. The greater the taxable base, the more fiscal revenue the government can get from the public. The more revenue the government has, the higher the spending budget of the government.

The government can spend as much as it wants, but if they want to spend way beyond what the government has in revenue, then it has to run a big deficit.

If the government wants to increase spending and keep a small deficit, then it has to increase revenue.

The bigger the economy, the more revenue the government can ask from the public.

If the economy is small, the government don't have the ability to increase revenue as the economy can't support it. This causes the government to run massive deficits if it wants to increase spending.

China can dramatically increase the spending and keep a small budget deficit if it demands an increase in revenue from the taxable base.

You clearly have limited thinking skills, if you think the size of an economy is irrelevant

Let dig on my previous example,
1. One Chinese has 1 pizza while one Japanese has 5 pizzas
if China want some saving, for example 1 of 8 slices. Chinese only has 7/8 remain.

Japanese always has 3-4 pizzas, after eating up 1-2 pizzas
2. Once Panasonic has revenue 100 billions by their Made in China items, which add up a part of China GDP
the wages and salaries paid to Chinese workers and staffs may reach 300 millions ( it's 300 million as pizzas to Chinese, not 100 billion ), China may get some tax more, but Panasonic revenue ( considered as China GDP ) actually is GNP of Japan, and a much bigger part of it ( compare to 300 million ) could be used to boost Japan re-arm.
The profit lead them to do business in China.

 

[Aepsilons]

I'm in agreement here. It's long past time for Japan to develop its own cruise/ballistic missile force. It'll act as a strong counterbalance to China.

It will be an asset for the JMSDF's capability to protect international shipping lanes and to handle asymmetrical warfare in the future, in the event that it is forced to defend itself. The threats to a nation are never static and ever changing, Japan must be capable to address these issues whenever or should it ever arise.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The Chinese have somehow managed to pi$$ of every one of its more prosperous neighbours - Korea, Japan and to a lesser extent India along with the other, not so prosperous right now, nations like Vietnam. And then throw into that the real dominate military power int he region- the USA. China's blundering approach to diplomacy is simply digging them ever deeper into a hole that, really, no one wants to see them in because the world cannot afford a war with China.

Yes China is a powerful nation on its own but when facing threats from pretty much every side and agasint enemies who themselves are arming up and responding to China they have perhaps bitten off more than they can chew thanks to their staggering diplomatic failings.

 

[Cossack25A1]

Will the new defense budget will also lead to the opening of Japanese arms market for export?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Let dig on my previous example,
1. One Chinese has 1 pizza while one Japanese has 5 pizzas
if China want some saving, for example 1 of 8 slices. Chinese only has 7/8 remain.

Japanese always has 3-4 pizzas, after eating up 1-2 pizzas
2. Once Panasonic has revenue 100 billions by their Made in China items, which add up a part of China GDP
the wages and salaries paid to Chinese workers and staffs may reach 300 millions ( it's 300 million as pizzas to Chinese, not 100 billion ), China may get some tax more, but Panasonic revenue ( considered as China GDP ) actually is GNP of Japan, and a much bigger part of it ( compare to 300 million ) could be used to boost Japan re-arm.
The profit lead them to do business in China.

Uh what? That's insanely stupid. What matters is how much percentage of your income you give up. Income is not pizzas since you don't eat money, you eat the things money buys, and purchasing power is different from nation to nation. In your own example, the average Chinese only needs to give up 1/8th their original income, while the average Japanese gives up 40% of their original income. Analogies are useful tools only if they are correct in essence.

 

[Aepsilons]

Will the new defense budget will also lead to the opening of Japanese arms market for export?

Yes. This 3rd of September, a representative of the Japanese Government will convene talks with ASEAN partners on military arms sales.

"Government sources said on Sunday that Japan plans to hold a seminar in Tokyo this September to pitch the sale of Japanese defense equipment to ASEAN member countries. “Maritime security” is expected to be the main theme, with officials explaining “how Japanese vessels and aircraft could boost the security of ASEAN countries.” The government also said that Japan’s own new defense posture “will improve if ASEAN countries increase their own deterrence capabilities in the face of China’s growing maritime assertiveness."

Japan’s Military Trade Set to Increase | The Diplomat

 

[C130]

Lol so you want a war between China and Japan,good you Yankees really have good will of Asians
And you target the Chinese dams is an act of what,you low life trash

did I say that?
you need to re-read bro

nice bald eagle btw. you must love freedom as much me

 

[Genesis]

The Chinese have somehow managed to pi$$ of every one of its more prosperous neighbours - Korea, Japan and to a lesser extent India along with the other, not so prosperous right now, nations like Vietnam. And then throw into that the real dominate military power int he region- the USA. China's blundering approach to diplomacy is simply digging them ever deeper into a hole that, really, no one wants to see them in because the world cannot afford a war with China.

Yes China is a powerful nation on its own but when facing threats from pretty much every side and agasint enemies who themselves are arming up and responding to China they have perhaps bitten off more than they can chew thanks to their staggering diplomatic failings.

Do you know how long America prepared for the Gulf war, and Iraqi freedom. Do you know how powerful the American support system, and transportation system really is.

This is one of the main reasons I don't think China can go to war right now, not without a few hundred Y-20s as heavy transport planes, and a hundred or two of air refueling planes to go with at least 50 AEW and a crazy amount of helicopters, including a few that's still in design phase.


So if you are afraid of war, don't cause nobody can actually fight except the US, we might be able to given 10-15 years, but still not as effective as the US can.

While we may have a few enemies, none of them can even keep their troops supplied, even if we don't do anything to disturb the supply. I mean we also can't, as well.

 

[DragonEmpire]

The Chinese have somehow managed to pi$$ of every one of its more prosperous neighbours - Korea, Japan and to a lesser extent India along with the other, not so prosperous right now, nations like Vietnam. And then throw into that the real dominate military power int he region- the USA. China's blundering approach to diplomacy is simply digging them ever deeper into a hole that, really, no one wants to see them in because the world cannot afford a war with China.

Yes China is a powerful nation on its own but when facing threats from pretty much every side and agasint enemies who themselves are arming up and responding to China they have perhaps bitten off more than they can chew thanks to their staggering diplomatic failings.

Then I guess DF-41 strikes on enemy population centers will be the final solution

 

[Cossack25A1]

Yes. This 3rd of September, a representative of the Japanese Government will convene talks with ASEAN partners on military arms sales.

"Government sources said on Sunday that Japan plans to hold a seminar in Tokyo this September to pitch the sale of Japanese defense equipment to ASEAN member countries. “Maritime security” is expected to be the main theme, with officials explaining “how Japanese vessels and aircraft could boost the security of ASEAN countries.” The government also said that Japan’s own new defense posture “will improve if ASEAN countries increase their own deterrence capabilities in the face of China’s growing maritime assertiveness."

Japan’s Military Trade Set to Increase | The Diplomat

Considering that the Philippine Army may not buy any MBT (because I feel that a 76mm or 90mm gun armed M113 is not enough), maybe we can consider the Maneuver Combat Vehicle which seems to be in development.

This is probably cheaper than the M1128 Stryker mobile gun system.

Maybe the Type 74 SPH or Type 75 SPH is also a good idea since all our artillery are towed types

 

[Viet]

Too many chinese zombies

 

[Aepsilons]

Considering that the Philippine Army may not buy any MBT (because I feel that a 76mm or 90mm gun armed M113 is not enough), maybe we can consider the Maneuver Combat Vehicle which seems to be in development.

This is probably cheaper than the M1128 Stryker mobile gun system.

Maybe the Type 74 SPH or Type 75 SPH is also a good idea since all our artillery are towed types

Each nation has their own unique situation that they have to work with. Given that the Philippines' Armed Forces is looking to , right now, build a credible defense force then it should focus on areas that are imperative for its national security. Right now, in my personal point of view, the Philippines can benefit by placing greater emphasis on maritime air patrol, maritime patrol, and a defensive land force.

In regards to maritime air patrols, I notice that the Philippine Navy relies on the Cesna and has a limited number. The ShinMaywa US-2 would prove effective and vital for the Philippine Navy as well as the Philippine Coast Guard:

As for Patrol Vessels, the Hayabusa-class missile patrol boat would be a potent addition to the Philippine Navy.

 

[Cossack25A1]

Each nation has their own unique situation that they have to work with. Given that the Philippines' Armed Forces is looking to , right now, build a credible defense force then it should focus on areas that are imperative for its national security. Right now, in my personal point of view, the Philippines can benefit by placing greater emphasis on maritime air patrol, maritime patrol, and a defensive land force.

In regards to maritime air patrols, I notice that the Philippine Navy relies on the Cesna and has a limited number. The ShinMaywa US-2 would prove effective and vital for the Philippine Navy as well as the Philippine Coast Guard:

As for Patrol Vessels, the Hayabusa-class missile patrol boat would be a potent addition to the Philippine Navy.

Yup, we rely heavily on the Cessna planes which unfortunately has somewhat become synonymous to being prone to crash...

Anyways, I never thought that sea-planes are still used today. I guess the ShinMaywa US-2 could be an important asset for the PH Navy and PH Coast Guard since helicopters has limited range, speed and requires a solid platform to land and to take-off.

And reading the history of PH Navy, when it was founded in 1898 established back in 1935, it was originally for "Offshore Patrol" (later renamed "Philippine Naval Patrol") which is based on the idea that a fleet of small vessels (during those times, the P.T. Boats) would have significant effect in dealing with hostile ships. I guess ships like the Hayabusa-class missile patrol boat would be cost-effective; being cheaper than a frigate despite having anti-ship missiles as we do not need ships larger than frigates and we need more subs than surface ships.