Japan and Netherlands to Join US Effort to Tighten Chip Exports to China

[kankan326]

Exclusive: China readying $143 billion package for its chip firms in face of U.S. curbs

China is working on a more than 1 trillion yuan ($143 billion) support package for its semiconductor industry, three sources said, in a major step towards self sufficiency in chips and to counter U.S. moves aimed at slowing its technological advances.

www.reuters.com

Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment Group Co Ltd (SMEE), China's only lithography company, can produce 90-nanometers chips, well behind that of the Netherlands' ASML, which is producing those as low as 3 nanometers.​

Remember, it can take as long as two yrs for a new product to become commercially accepted, and each tech node qualifies as a new product. What it means is that for China's indigenous litho equipment to catch up from node 90, each successive node will have to be qualified as 'commercially accepted' even if there is no contracted customers.

Can USA alone produce 90nm lithography? I doubt that. 90nm can also produce 28nm or even smaller chips with multi exposures. Which can meet >95% semi-conductor demands

 

[gambit]

Can USA alone produce 90nm lithography? I doubt that. 90nm can also produce 28nm or even smaller chips with multi exposures. Which can meet >95% semi-conductor demands

No, we cannot. We have no idea what is 'semiconductor' in the first place.

 

[antonius123]

Exclusive: China readying $143 billion package for its chip firms in face of U.S. curbs

China is working on a more than 1 trillion yuan ($143 billion) support package for its semiconductor industry, three sources said, in a major step towards self sufficiency in chips and to counter U.S. moves aimed at slowing its technological advances.

www.reuters.com

Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment Group Co Ltd (SMEE), China's only lithography company, can produce 90-nanometers chips, well behind that of the Netherlands' ASML, which is producing those as low as 3 nanometers.​

Remember, it can take as long as two yrs for a new product to become commercially accepted, and each tech node qualifies as a new product. What it means is that for China's indigenous litho equipment to catch up from node 90, each successive node will have to be qualified as 'commercially accepted' even if there is no contracted customers.

Your news is outdated.
They have 28nm DUV Lithography now.

First China Made 28nm Lithography Machine Expected For Delivery in 2021​

First China Made 28nm Lithography Machine Expected For Delivery in 2021

China is on track to make its own 28nm chips by late 2021, and 20nm chips by early 2023 without recourse to US fabrication technology and equipment.

www.verdict.co.uk

With it, they can produce 7nm chip.

 

[Dungeness]

US government is acting like a "Tech Mafia"

 

[kankan326]

No, we cannot. We have no idea what is 'semiconductor' in the first place.

I'm tired of seeing people using sarcastic way to reply my post to avoid their awkwardness and make them look smart

 

[Beast]

Zero hurt China chips industries, maximum damage to Japan and Netherland chip export prospect...

 

[antonius123]

No, we cannot. We have no idea what is 'semiconductor' in the first place.

Your counter doesnt seem like from the knowledgeable person

In the world, only ASML, Canon, and Nikon as the big player and outstanding maker in DUV Lithography.

 

[gambit]

Your counter doesnt seem like from the knowledgeable person

In the world, only ASML, Canon, and Nikon as the big player and outstanding maker in DUV Lithography.

I, just like the US, do not know anything about semiconductor.

I'm tired of seeing people using sarcastic way to reply my post to avoid their awkwardness and make them look smart

The problem for your argument is that I have explained more about semicon manufacturing than ALL of you guys combined. So I do not need to 'look' knowledgeable about the industry.

 

[Beast]

I, just like the US, do not know anything about semiconductor.


The problem for your argument is that I have explained more about semicon manufacturing than ALL of you guys combined. So I do not need to 'look' knowledgeable about the industry.

Zero explanation. Desperate diversion by you...

 

[nahtanbob]

It's the military application that is concerning.

It means that a couple of decades later, China will never be able to compete with USA military.

And the economy as well.

China is being blocked from becoming a great power, in the economy, tech, and military.

you mean you cannot steal your way out of it

 

[925boy]

Now China has enough reasons to teach Japan a hard lesson.

Senkaku islands...sorry DIAOYU islands...are you listeninggggg??? loool

Japan is under USA's protection so i dunno how that'll go
Plus Japan is overhauling its own military.
They may be small and weak atm but they shouldn't be underestimated imo. Japanese nationalism was a thing to be reckoned with in WW2, was just watching some documentaries on Kamikaze bombers.

while i agree that Japan should not be underestimated, Japan military's behavior recently seems to indicate its not very confident or assertive- 2 reasons - 1. US is a much less reliable and capable ally now and 2. Japan had considerable economic disadvantage.

Japan knows it wont be able to recover today if it enters a disastrous war, again.

 

[Nan Yang]

Exclusive: China readying $143 billion package for its chip firms in face of U.S. curbs

China is working on a more than 1 trillion yuan ($143 billion) support package for its semiconductor industry, three sources said, in a major step towards self sufficiency in chips and to counter U.S. moves aimed at slowing its technological advances.

www.reuters.com

Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment Group Co Ltd (SMEE), China's only lithography company, can produce 90-nanometers chips, well behind that of the Netherlands' ASML, which is producing those as low as 3 nanometers.​

Remember, it can take as long as two yrs for a new product to become commercially accepted, and each tech node qualifies as a new product. What it means is that for China's indigenous litho equipment to catch up from node 90, each successive node will have to be qualified as 'commercially accepted' even if there is no contracted customers.

China will soon dominate matured technology. That's where the money is.

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China’s largest chip maker SMIC (0981.HK) is ramping up production of a decade-old chip technology, key to many industries' supply chains, setting off alarm bells in the United States and prompting some lawmakers to try to stop them.

 

[Trango Towers]

Chinese companies can build advance chips but are lazy to do it because buying is easier, take less time and less troublesome.

Sorry but that's Pakistani attitude not the rest of the world

 

[REhorror]

Dark days ahead.

 

[Viet]

The west has not learnt...
The best thing you can do to wake a nation up is sanction it

Nonsense. You live in a dream land. Semiconductor is a strategic industry, probably the most important. No country in the world will give it to competition least enemy.

It's the military application that is concerning.

It means that a couple of decades later, China will never be able to compete with USA military.

And the economy as well.

China is being blocked from becoming a great power, in the economy, tech, and military.

Military applications don’t need high dense chips, only commercial applications need it. For the latter China can’t do that. Not even in 100 years. That’s hopeless, if sanctions are in place. There are just few companies in the world that can make ultraviolet high precision light and high precision optics.