J&K Grand Mufti, who said music was 'unIslamic', seen enjoying songs

[karan.1970]

There is not a single line in the Quran saying Music is haraam.

As always, its the moronic interpretation and not the religion itself that comes out with such nonsense..

 

[Ammyy]

There is not a single line in the Quran saying Music is haraam.

Why people allowing person like him as grand mufti ???

 

[Jesus]

There is not a single line in the Quran saying Music is haraam.

Yes, me too knew that.. I don't know why people are using the name "Islam" for granted to restrict someone/something...

 

[Vinod2070]

There is not a single line in the Quran saying Music is haraam.

Seems many in Pakistan don't agree with you.

Until a few months ago, Pakistani singer and composer Shiraz Uppal's caller tune was the song "Rabba" from the Pooja Bhatt film Dhokha (2007). Now, one hears a prayer. Earlier this month, the Lahore-based musician announced that he would not be making music anymore as his religion forbids music.

After over a decade in the industry, Uppal has cut himself off entirely, even giving away all his instruments and recording equipment, save a guitar which was a gift from his late father. "He gave it to me in 1995. I've kept it as a memory of him," says Uppal.

Uppal's decision seems to fall into a pattern in Pakistan. In recent years, various singers and musicians have renounced their careers, either for personal reasons or in the face of threats from militant groups. UAE-based Pashtun singer Nazia Iqbal announced her retirement from music at a concert this January, reportedly to live as a "devoted Muslim woman". She also announced her plans to open madrassas in Pakistan.

Ali Haider of "Purani Jeans" fame made the transition from pop to devotional songs and qawwalis in 2009. In fact, as early as 2001, Junaid Jamshed, a sensation in Pakistan in the late 80s and early 90s and known to his fans as JJ, too gave up his musical career for religious reasons. Now, he only sings religious naats and has taken to preaching.

There are other artistes who have been killed. A significant Taliban presence in north-west Pakistan has ensured a strong clampdown on music and musicians. Guns have been in constant battle with guitars. Singer and dancer Shabana from Swat was killed in January 2009, followed by Peshawar-based Ayman Udas who was murdered the same year, in what was said to be an honour killing. Pakistani newspapers suggest that singers Gulzar Alam and Gulrez Tabassum, known for their Pashto songs, too quit after threats from militants.

Uppal, however, clarifies his musical exile isn't forced. "I am only doing this to make my Creator happy. For the past seven years, I had been having dreams about our Prophet. I took up reading the Quran Sharif and the Hadith seriously. It says that music is forbidden. So I decided to give it up. Music is not my destiny," says Uppal, who considers A R Rahman his guru in music.

He has worked with Rahman for a song in an upcoming film, Boys. His opinion of Rahman and others in the music fraternity, he says, remains unchanged. "As far as music is concerned Rahman has been and always will be an inspiration. But in matters of religion, the only person to look up to is the Prophet," he says. For now, he plans to put his MBA degree to use and possibly take up trading as a profession.

Many others don't have a choice, though. Besides threats to singers, other artistes and those in the music business have suffered too. More than 20 stores selling music CDs were attacked by militants in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and North Waziristan in November last year. In November 2008, The Lahore International Arts Festival was bombed. In 2007, Shoaib Mansoor's critically acclaimed film Khuda Kay Liye was issued a fatwa. The film, among other things, features a young musician giving up his career after coming in contact with a radical cleric.

Singer Zeek Afridi, who lives in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa region of Pakistan, has in the past received phone calls asking him to stop music production. Though he has continued, several others haven't. "Haroon Bacha who sang Pashto songs left for the US after he was threatened. The overall atmosphere for business in general has suffered. If the government makes a platform for these artistes, things can get better," says Afridi, who recently visited India to shoot a music video.

Singer Ali Hamza of the band Noori, is careful when he broaches the subject. He says that retirement decisions of singers like Uppal are not in the least discouraging. "It only motivates us to work harder. Pakistan has had a tradition of sufi singers and ghazal singers. There was serious censorship on music during the Zia era. But in the urban areas the mindset is changing. The music scene is growing. There is a promotion of underground artists with shows like Youth Records, and they are getting better by the day," he says.

Faith & fear silence Pakistan's singers - The Times of India

 

[Awesome]

See what happens is that such interpretations are taken from the hadiths. Hadiths are a collection of narrated incidents about the Prophet. Prophet said this on this occasion, Prophet did that on that occasion.

Now on some occasions the Prophet spoke against Music and on some occasions he was seen as liking it. My understanding is that, this would mean it all depends on the type of Music. If its something national, patriotic, something with a nice message, something Islamic even, then it should be okay. If its something like Sheela ki Jawani, then I understand the criticism towards it.

Plus note, that the hadiths were written hundreds of years after the Prophet's death. Even though 99% of all Muslims take these as part of the faith and they were obviously written by scholars, who did an extremely thorough job on finding out multiple sources for each incident. But its not divine, nor stated as such. Its not something that came directly from God like Quran.

I fail to agree to the argument that Allah forgot to put something so crucial in the Quran and the Hadith guys corrected this mistake

 

[Vinod2070]

See what happens is that such interpretations are taken from the hadiths. Hadiths are a collection of narrated incidents about the Prophet. Prophet said this on this occasion, Prophet did that on that occasion.

Now on some occasions the Prophet spoke against Music and on some occasions he was seen as liking it. My understanding is that, this would mean it all depends on the type of Music. If its something national, patriotic, something with a nice message, something Islamic even, then it should be okay. If its something like Sheela ki Jawani, then I understand the criticism towards it.

Plus note, that the hadiths were written hundreds of years after the Prophet's death. Even though 99% of all Muslims take these as part of the faith and they were obviously written by scholars, who did an extremely thorough job on finding out multiple sources for each incident. But its not divine, nor stated as such. Its not something that came directly from God like Quran.

I fail to agree to the argument that Allah forgot to put something so crucial in the Quran and the Hadith guys corrected this mistake

Well, let's not take it too far.

Many Muslims argue that Islam can't be practiced without the Hadhith but no point in stretching the argument here.

 

[kurup]

The Grand Mufti turned out to be hypocrite but nothing surprising .

 

[Icewolf]

Indian trash music and Mehdi Hassan are worlds apart.
I think he meant that Indian trash music is unIslamic as it promotes rape and communal riots, as seen in Hindostan!

 

[karan.1970]

Indian trash music and Mehdi Hassan are worlds apart.
I think he meant that Indian trash music is unIslamic as it promotes rape and communal riots, as seen in Hindostan!

Its people like you who claim to be the khudai interpreters of everything that are the root cause of most problems in the world

 

[Gautam]

These are confused people. They have no idea what is right and what is haraam. There is nothing like a ban on music in Quran.

What else can you expect from this confused people. They have Ideology crisis.

 

[kaykay]

This is called double standard. I am not surprised though.

 

[Awesome]

Well, let's not take it too far.

Many Muslims argue that Islam can't be practiced without the Hadhith but no point in stretching the argument here.

There is nothing that CAN'T be done. But the hadith have their merits. The Quran says to pray, it does not say how to pray, the Hadith does. In my view it should be read with an open mind, it can be wrong, it can be incomplete, it can be out of context.

 

[Icewolf]

Its people like you who claim to be the khudai interpreters of everything that are the root cause of most problems in the world

Did I say something bad?
Indian item songs are basically trash music.

 

[Roybot]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/267263-music-un-islamic-unless-you-grand-mufti-course-read-mor.html

PLease merge the threads.

 

[karan.1970]

There is nothing that CAN'T be done. But it has its merits. The Quran says to pray, it does not say how to pray, the Hadith does. In my view it should be read with an open mind, it can be wrong, it can be incomplete, it can be out of context.

The way I look at it is that Quran is the word of God and Hadith is its interpretation by men (like a kunji ). If one feels himself to be not capable to interpret quran by himself, he can go by what's given in Hadith. Else be your own scholar and interpret the Quran yourself..