ITT we laugh at this moron

[TruthHurtz]

 

[Tps43]

WOW is he showing his BooBS?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

 

[!eon]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

If look at Pro Khomaini's revolution Iran, you will find how much pro west they are. General public is same as before 80s.
It's totally different than Pakistan where people are anti US but govt is always after US

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If look at Pro Khomaini's revolution Iran, you will find how much pro west they are. General public is same as before 80s.
It's totally different than Pakistan where people are anti US but govt is always after US

Dear...

People are anti US policies...not US



You were saying the same, right?

 

[war&peace]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

I can't say for all Iranian people, but the ones I met in Europe, both the religious and non-religious, are too impressed by the west and idealise and idolise West but at the same time they absolutely hate the west as well ..and for them visiting USA is like going on a spiritual pilgrimage

 

[mohsen]

Picture belong to 2015 when shitty deal (JCPOA) was signed and fools like this clown were celebrating in streets.

 

[!eon]

People are anti US policies...not US

Same thing dear, People and their Policies make a country, otherwise whole earth is same.

 

[Tajbakhsh]

The only moron here is the creator of this useless thread.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

Its not exactly like that, but if you want to be correct Iranian people have far better experience with what they got from the countries like Germany or Scandinavian countries . also its the same case about the services we get for those goods.

 

[zartosht]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

China is still too isolationist to be able to be able to have a strategic relationship with. it still the same type of mentality the US had pre-ww1. "who cares what anyone else is doing lets just build our own country"

the American people saw absolutely 0 interest in getting into a European war. The American government on the other hand saw a glorious opportunity where every single power is in total war mode bombing each other to the stone age. If they could sacrifice a little short term pain they could win the world very cheaply.

and that's exactly what they did. Despite the fact the American people overwhelmingly didn't want to enter either ww1 or ww2. The American government acted on its geopolical interests. joined both wars late, tipping the balance and winning on the cheap .

China today has the mentality that every single transaction it makes has to be profitable. If the US comes and demands china stop trading with iran. China will try to negotiate the best possible deal for itself out of that scenario.

its a very reasonable position to take. But other countries will never see you as a potential strategic ally if you treat them like this. sometimes you need to sacrifice short term pain (refusing to budge on American blackmail, and answering sanctions with your own counter sanctions) in order to develop a long term strategic relationship.

and its not just iran. Any potential country that will ally itself with you will be looking for that. and in case you haven't noticed. the US is not alone. half their power comes from their network of allies and puppets. including a couple of very powerful Asian countries right on chinas borders.

even if you pass them militarily and economically. it will not be enough if you don't develop your own network of allies. and the only way to do that is to portray yourself as reliable.

the americans took enormous risks and paid in blood to save Kuwait and wahabis from saddam. THat confirmed to wahabis that their protectors were the americans. and they unconditionally open a** for them on demand. Europe saw how the US bailed them out in ww2, and helped them keep out the soviets in the cold war.

s. korea exists because the US went into war on its behalf agains NK and china. America actually sacrificed a lot to develop its relationship with allies and guarantees their security.

while china doesn't need to go to war on anyones behalf. they will never make any allies if they treat potential geopolitical allies as purely cash registers to make money off of. there has to be a little more.

 

[haman10]

is there really a thread about a random Iranian dude with a Tshirt?

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

And are you as a think tank really commenting on this?

look, We've always been relying on our selves. we don't need you, Russia or anyone else and certainly don't look to please anyone.

our policy has been this since forever: "No to West, No to East, only IRI" this moto is the banner at the entrance of our Foreign ministry. so you get the point ok?

 

[AmirPatriot]

our policy has been this since forever: "No to West, No to East, only IRI"

I think a better translation is "Not eastern, nor western, Islamic Republic". It doesn't mean that we won't work with the west or the east, it means that we put our own interests first and aren't client states to anyone. Bearing in mind at the time of the revolution it was the cold war, and the hegemon in the East was the USSR which had been just as bad if not worse to Iran as the US.

 

[Fafnir]

I feel like Iran only really cares about being accepted by the Western world, especially the USA.

For them, China and Russia are the last resort, only when they have absolutely no options left. And even then, they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA.

You sound like the clueless russians in the early 90s after the fall of the ussr so certain that the iranians and the west would have some sort of eventual rapprochement,well its been over a quarter century since then and no rapprochement in sight,in fact iran and the west are probably as far apart today as they have ever been,if not even further thanks to a certain orange pussy grabbers fit of spite.But hey on the bright side it does finally seem that at last the russians have finally realised that iran isnt going to willingly go back to being a western vassal and it only took them a whole 25 years to get that simple fact thru their thick russian skulls,I wonder how long it`ll take the chinese to make that same leap of brilliance,another 25,50 years perhaps.....who knows,I guess it depends on how thick chinese skulls are.
Lastly I really have to chuckle at your "they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA"
I mean c`mon seriously!?,do you really fu#king think that iran has just spent the last almost 40 years just playing fu#king hard to get like some c0ck teasing young girl just so they can go back to being a us vassal state like they were under pahlavi!?....You know what I was wrong you`re not thick you`re just deluded because the only other people that I`ve come across who share those same deluded beliefs were deluded neo-cons,deluded zionists and deluded "persian" nationalists/royalists.Let me put it in perspective for you in a way you`ll understand,it would be a bit like if the taiwanese kmt took over the prc and realigned it as a western vassal/client state.Now I think we can both agree that that is shall we say....somewhat....unlikely,and it is about as unlikely as iran going back to being a western vassal and the reason for that is because both iran and china take their independence and national sovereignty very,very seriously because without those things then what are you really?.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You sound like the clueless russians in the early 90s after the fall of the ussr so certain that the iranians and the west would have some sort of eventual rapprochement,well its been over a quarter century since then and no rapprochement in sight,in fact iran and the west are probably as far apart today as they have ever been,if not even further thanks to a certain orange pussy grabbers fit of spite.But hey on the bright side it does finally seem that at last the russians have finally realised that iran isnt going to willingly go back to being a western vassal and it only took them a whole 25 years to get that simple fact thru their thick russian skulls,I wonder how long it`ll take the chinese to make that same leap of brilliance,another 25,50 years perhaps.....who knows,I guess it depends on how thick chinese skulls are.
Lastly I really have to chuckle at your "they are just waiting for a chance to make another deal with the USA"
I mean c`mon seriously!?,do you really fu#king think that iran has just spent the last almost 40 years just playing fu#king hard to get like some c0ck teasing young girl just so they can go back to being a us vassal state like they were under pahlavi!?....You know what I was wrong you`re not thick you`re just deluded because the only other people that I`ve come across who share those same deluded beliefs were deluded neo-cons,deluded zionists and deluded "persian" nationalists/royalists.Let me put it in perspective for you in a way you`ll understand,it would be a bit like if the taiwanese kmt took over the prc and realigned it as a western vassal/client state.Now I think we can both agree that that is shall we say....somewhat....unlikely,and it is about as unlikely as iran going back to being a western vassal and the reason for that is because both iran and china take their independence and national sovereignty very,very seriously because without those things then what are you really?.

So how come Rouhani's pro-Western administration was so close to the USA during the Obama administration?

Is there really any difference between Obama and Trump? They both represent the same American deep state. If Obama suddenly comes back into office, will things change again?