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It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell - The Times of India

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell

Two weeks ago, the Australian journalist Neville Maxwell finally made part of the Henderson Brooks report public, by putting it up on his blog. The report was an internal Indian Army enquiry into its rout in the 1962 war with China — Maxwell was the New Delhi correspondent for The Times, London, at the time — but in the 51 years since the report was written up by Lt Gen Henderson Brooks and Brig PS Bhagat, successive Indian governments have refused to make it public. Only two copies of the report were thought to be in existence, although there was never any doubt that Maxwell had had access to the report for his 1970 book India's China War quoted extensively from it. In his first interview to the Indian media since he made the report public, the now 88-year-old Maxwell tells Parakram Rautela that he had been trying to make the report public for years but that nobody would publish it. He adds that he was only able to get hold of Volume I of the report, minus 45 pages, and that he never laid eyes on Volume II. And of course he still blames Nehru for the war, not the Chinese. Excerpts:

Q: You suggest India's official account of the cause of the 1962 border war is false. What, in your view, is the truth?

NM: By September 1962 the Indian "forward policy" of trying to force the Chinese out of territory India claimed had built up great tension in the Western (Ladakh) sector of the border, with the Chinese army just blocking it. Then the Nehru government applied the forward policy to the McMahon Line eastern sector and when the Chinese blocked that too India in effect declared war with Nehru's announcement on October 11 that the Army had been ordered to "free our territory", which meant to attack the Chinese and drive them back. As General Niranjan Prasad, commander of 4 Division, wrote later: "We at the front knew that since Nehru had said he was going to attack, the Chinese were certainly not going to wait to be attacked" — and of course they didn't. That's how the war began. The Chinese attack was both reactive, in that General Kaul had begun the Indian assault on October 10, and pre-emptive because after that failure the Indian drive had been suspended to build up strength for a resumed attack.

Q: What in your opinion were the policies, on both sides, that brought about the basic quarrel over the border?

NM: As far as the McMahon Line was concerned India inherited the dispute with China, which the British had created in the mid-1930s by seizing the Tibetan territory they re-named NEFA. The PRC government was prepared to accept that border alignment but insisted that it be re-negotiated, that is put through the usual diplomatic process, to wipe out its imperialist origins. Nehru refused, using London's false claim that the Simla Conference had already legitimised the McMahon Line to back up that refusal — that was his Himalayan blunder. Then in 1954 he compounded that mistake by laying cartographic claim to a swathe of territory in the north-west, the Aksai Chin, a claim which was beyond anything the British had ever claimed and on an area which Chinese governments had treated as their own for at least a hundred years. To make matters worse, he ruled that there should be no negotiation over that claim either! So Indian policy had created a border dispute and also ruled out the only way it could peacefully be settled, through diplomatic negotiation.

Q: Whatever the truth about the origins of the war, it's the effect on India-China relations and the deadlock since then that is important now... And there was the worry that bringing up all the bitterness of that bloody conflict may only make matters worse?

NM: Certainly not, the opposite is true I think. If the Henderson Brooks Report is read closely in India (and it's not easy reading!) people will see that political favouritism put the Army under incompetent leadership which blindly followed the Nehru government's provocative policy. It shows that all the way, from formulation to implementation of the Forward Policy, that policy was resisted by the pucca soldiers because they saw it must end in a conflict India could only lose, but the orders came from the top and in the end had to be obeyed... the authors of the report ruefully quote the poem, "theirs not to reason why... but to do or die".

Q: What made you publish the report now, and why were you selective about what you published?

NM: There's a significant gap in what I published, about 45 pages, otherwise I published all I have, which is Volume One of the Report's two volumes. The gap is there only because the time I had to copy it was limited, and when I saw I wouldn't have time to copy it all I chose to leave out a chunk in the middle rather than the end of it. As for the timing, I'd been trying to make it public for years but thought if I did it myself there'd just be attacks on me rather than concentration on the Report's contents, and to some extent that what's happening now. So a couple of years ago I made the text available to several major Indian papers on condition they didn't disclose their source, but none of them would publish it, so by this time I had to conclude that if I didn't do it myself it might never see the light of day. Now it's done without any harm whatever to national security let's hope the Indian government, this one or the next, will quickly publish both volumes of the Henderson Brooks Report without any gaps or editing.

Q: All right, but don't you see you may have made matters worse by arousing all this heated discussion just before a general election?

NM: Honestly, the elections never crossed my mind as bearing on my decision, I don't follow Indian politics closely nowadays. And as for making matters worse, absolutely not, I see the opposite as being true. The tragic irony in all this is that settlement would be easy and the way to settlement has always been open! All that is required is that the Indian government, any Indian government, reverses the Nehru refusal to negotiate. And it's possible that under the guise of just "talking", a secret process of negotiation has in fact been going on and there are signs that it may have reached agreement on basics. If so the Indian public is more likely to welcome that outcome because the myth of "Chinese aggression" has been exposed again, as the Henderson Brooks report does. I say "again" because all this, the historical and diplomatic background and what the Henderson Brooks report tells about the debacle, was exposed long ago in my 1970 book India's China War, and a revised edition of that has just come out in Delhi.
 
We all know that there was conflict between China and India in the past, but it seems that the Anglo people don't want the peace settled between these two nations.

In fact, the leak of this internal Indian Army report is a good thing, since now Indians can't claim that China "backstabbed" them like their Congress party claims.

The report reveals that it was in fact Nehru who started the war.
 
Henderson-Brooks report seems to contain some extremely sensitive documents regarding Indian Army's policies, vital maps and internal reports which prevented Indian Government from publishing it for the sake of National Security. If Maxwell publishes the rest of the volumes it might put the Indian government in utter discomfort.
 
In fact, the leak of this internal Indian Army report is a good thing, since now Indians can't claim that China "backstabbed" them like their Congress party claims.

The report reveals that it was in fact Nehru who started the war.

But this fact was reported by Australia.

Obviously they want to keep China busy with India.
 
In fact, the leak of this internal Indian Army report is a good thing, since now Indians can't claim that China "backstabbed" them like their Congress party claims.

The report reveals that it was in fact Nehru who started the war.
In India we have the slogan "Satyamev Jayate" which means truth shall prevail.

If this report is true, then I can say with reasonable confidence all Indians will accept that India was the culprit.
Till that time we can only speculate and hope everything comes out soon.
There are also rumors that many of our soldiers died of Cold due to insufficient gear.
 
Half of humanity at war and later half a century of poor relations.
A Chinese Indian alliance would be the strongest power on earth, alas it was not meant to be. India Fcuked it all up.

Perhaps Nehru only hastened the inevitable, with his stupidity of attacking us in 1962.
 
Back in 1962, India had a larger GDP than China, in fact the Great leap forward had dropped our GDP by around 1/3 at that time. We were on the brink of collapse from starvation, and surrounded by two enemy superpowers (USA and USSR).

Yet we will won.

Today, our GDP has become $9.3 trillion, and India's GDP is still at $1.7 with collapsing growth rates. Our defence budget is far larger than India's, our indigenous defence industries are light-years ahead of India. Not to mention we have the high ground on the Tibetan Plateau, the highest mountain range on Earth.

We have thousands and thousands of land-attack cruise missiles, short-range conventional ballistic missiles, and rocket artillery, all with a range of beyond 350+ km (whereas New Delhi is only 300 km from the Chinese border). Those missiles are currently aimed at Taiwan, but can be moved quickly.

Apart from hammering Delhi, our missiles can take out all of India's airfields in the NE, meaning that the Indian NE would be without air cover. Against a vastly superior Chinese air force.

Last but not least, we have vastly superior infrastructure in the border regions compared to India. That means we can bring FAR more troops and equipment to any point along the LAC than India can, meaning that we will always be fighting with a huge numerical advantage at any point of conflict.

People blame Nehru for not being prepared.

But look at the current state of India's Armed forces. The Indian Air force is far below sanctioned squadron strength, and the Rafale order is still being delayed due to lack of funding (despite being required back in 2001). The Indian Navy is the same, their number of "active" submarines is now only about as much as Pakistan. The Indian ground forces have admitted that they lacks enough equipment and ammunition to even last more than a few days, according to VK Singh.

If Nehru was wrong for not preparing the Indian military and for starting the Forward Policy, then today's Indian government is guilty of far worse.
 
Back in 1962, India had a larger GDP than China, in fact the Great leap forward had dropped our GDP by around 1/3 at that time. We were on the brink of collapse from starvation, and surrounded by two enemy superpowers (USA and USSR).

Yet we will won.

Today, our GDP has become $9.3 trillion, and India's GDP is still at $1.7 with collapsing growth rates. Our defence budget is far larger than India's, our indigenous defence industries are light-years ahead of India. Not to mention we have the high ground on the Tibetan Plateau, the highest mountain range on Earth.

We have thousands and thousands of land-attack cruise missiles, short-range conventional ballistic missiles, and rocket artillery, all with a range of beyond 350+ km (whereas New Delhi is only 300 km from the Chinese border). Those missiles are currently aimed at Taiwan, but can be moved quickly.

Apart from hammering Delhi, our missiles can take out all of India's airfields in the NE, meaning that the Indian NE would be without air cover. Against a vastly superior Chinese air force.

Last but not least, we have vastly superior infrastructure in the border regions compared to India. That means we can bring FAR more troops and equipment to any point along the LAC than India can, meaning that we will always be fighting with a huge numerical advantage at any point of conflict.

People blame Nehru for not being prepared.

But look at the current state of India's Armed forces. The Indian Air force is far below sanctioned squadron strength, and the Rafale order is still being delayed due to lack of funding (despite being required back in 2001). The Indian Navy is the same, their number of "active" submarines is now only about as much as Pakistan. The Indian ground forces have admitted that they lacks enough equipment and ammunition to even last more than a few days, according to VK Singh.

If Nehru was wrong for not preparing the Indian military and for starting the Forward Policy, then today's Indian government is guilty of far worse.
:( :cray:
 
@Aeronaut, @Developereo, as we've said all along... it was India who started this war.

Though no doubt this internal Army report will remain "classified", because it directly contradicts the Indian narrative of a "poor defenceless Nehru who was back stabbed by the evil Chinese".

In truth, and as the facts show, it was the Chinese side who offered more than our fair share of concessions. Some might even have called Zhou Enlai's offers of a territorial swap to be treasonous, but these overly-generous offers were nevertheless rejected by Nehru, who refused to do any sort of compromise.

In fact, we even took good care of the Indian prisoners we captured, we fed them plenty of food and even polished their rifles, despite China at that time not having enough food for our own people, being in the middle of the worst famine in our history (the Great leap forward).

We were the ones calling for an end to the war, eventually having to declare a unilateral ceasefire, and we voluntarily moved back to our previous positions despite an overwhelming victory in the field.

I am one of the biggest critics of the early years of the PRC governance, but in this issue we had no choice but to respond to the war that Nehru imposed on us.
 
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@Aeronaut, @Developereo, as we've said all along... it was India who started this war.

Though no doubt this internal Army report will remain "classified", because it directly contradicts the Indian narrative of a "poor defenceless Nehru who was back stabbed by the evil Chinese".

In truth, and as the facts show, it was the Chinese side who offered more than our fair share of concessions. Some might even have called Zhou Enlai's offers of a territorial swap to be treasonous, but these overly-generous offers were nevertheless rejected by Nehru, who refused to do any sort of compromise.

In fact, we even took good care of the Indian prisoners we captured, we fed them plenty of food and even polished their rifles, despite China at that time not having enough food for our own people, being in the middle of the worst famine in our history.

We were the ones calling for an end to the war, eventually having to declare a unilateral ceasefire, and we voluntarily moved back to our previous positions despite an overwhelming victory in the field.

I am one of the biggest critics of the early years of the PRC governance, but in this issue we had no choice but to respond to the war that Nehru imposed on us.

It will remain CLASSIFIED for two things - first, since it shows Nehru in bad light, Congress will never ever ever disclose that.

Second - People in India are emotional, they can never imagine that for once, even India was also an aggressor, they believe that every war after Independence, India was actually defending it's sovereignty against foreign invasion.

So it's not in India's (read Nehru/Gandhi family's interest) to disclose it.
 
HOW MANY MORE THREADS ARE GOING TO BE OPENED ON THIS TOPIC? IT'S BEEN FLOGGED TO DEATH ALREADY!!

:alcoholic:

Mods, can all these threads be merged into one thread?
 

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