It Is The WMD Moment Once Again For The USA:---

[riscol]

North Korea is under the protection of China whether it has nuclear weapons or not is besides the point. The defence treaty signed by both parties still stands today from my understanding

 

[famoj47521]

Once US gets out of Afghanistan, Pakistan will be discarded.

We all well aware of it, thats why we have been working against US interests since day one.

 

[Dual Wielder]

I'd say obviously go with the Chinese camp, but let our words say otherwise (pretend to stay neutral) heck even throw in some 'reconciliation' drama, what we need most is Industrialisation to come to Pakistan, once this takes off via CPEC (or other means) we'd be strong enough to stand more on our own two feet and project greater regional influence overtime, which will be beneficial for the Chinese as well. Soley relying on remittances too much cost us dearly.. The recent spanking from the Arabs hopefully was a reality check for our foolish establishment, and that Pakistan has no true allies that it can really depend on and that we are ALONE, likewise the Americans have backstabbed us so many times.. so they can go screw themselves...

 

[Han Patriot]

North Korea is under the protection of China whether it has nuclear weapons or not is besides the point. The defence treaty signed by both parties still stands today from my understanding

Trump can shout and threaten all he wants. NK is protected by China and Russia, anybody going through the 38th parallel will start a war.

Actually the war never ended, no peace treaty was ever signed. US did not want to sign it.

 

[Crusher]

Hi,

It is about time for another blame game---. Last time the world saw middle east decimated by that little vial of a glass tube that Gen Collin Powell waved in the UN assembly forum---.

This time it would be Pres. Trump waving a tube that is supposedly of COVID 19 made in Wuhan China---.

The stage is being prepped and setup for the disclosure and the proof is being gathered by any mean possible---.

The US has fixated its sights on china---. Virus has created devastation in the USA as it has in many other nations---.

The world is being readied for another conflict---. Supposed proof is being gathered and will be put together in way that all fingers would be pointing towards Wuhan---.

Terrible times ahead for the world---.

It is an economic war going on between US and China, yes it will take another turn in the light of covid-19 but I don't see any military conflict out of it. China is no Iraq or Afghanistan. The current conflict between US and China is entirely of economic and technological nature and that is how it will remain in the coming years particularly if Trump gets reelected. The warning to default on 1 trillion worth of Chinese owned US debt just shows you the nature of this conflict, it is purely financial and economic tussle going on between current administrations of US and China. Deep in its core, it is a war of "jobs", "high salary paying jobs" to be precise.

 

[famoj47521]

I'd say obviously go with the Chinese camp, but let our words say otherwise (pretend to stay neutral) heck even throw in some 'reconciliation' drama, what we need most is Industrialisation to come to Pakistan, once this takes off via CPEC (or other means) we'd be strong enough to stand more on our own two feet and project greater regional influence overtime, which will be beneficial for the Chinese as well. Soley relying on remittances too much cost us dearly.. The recent spanking from the Arabs hopefully was a reality check for our foolish establishment, and that Pakistan has no true allies that it can depend on and that we are ALONE, likewise the Americans have backstabbed us so many times.. so they can go screw themselves...

world order is changing soon. new winners and losers are going to emerge from it and Pakistan will shine.

It is all prophesied.

 

[Trango Towers]

Hi,

It is about time for another blame game---. Last time the world saw middle east decimated by that little vial of a glass tube that Gen Collin Powell waved in the UN assembly forum---.

This time it would be Pres. Trump waving a tube that is supposedly of COVID 19 made in Wuhan China---.

The stage is being prepped and setup for the disclosure and the proof is being gathered by any mean possible---.

The US has fixated its sights on china---. Virus has created devastation in the USA as it has in many other nations---.

The world is being readied for another conflict---. Supposed proof is being gathered and will be put together in way that all fingers would be pointing towards Wuhan---.

Terrible times ahead for the world---.

China is not Iraq. It will hit america in america.

 

[Han Patriot]

It is an economic war going on between US and China, yes it will take another turn in the light of covid-19 but I don't see any military conflict out of it. China is no Iraq or Afghanistan. The current conflict between US and China is entirely of economic and technological nature and that how it will remain in the coming years particularly if Trump gets reelected. The warning to default on 1 trillion worth of Chinese owned US debt just shows you the nature of this conflict, it is purely financial and economic tussle going on between current administrations of US and China.

People tend to think this is a zero sum game, what wrong if we become number 2? We are still one of the most powerful nations on earth?

Russia collapsed because they didn't use market economy and concentrated bulk of their investments into the military. China is doing the exact opposite, while US fights war to the trillions, we use that money to build a world class HSR, we invested in science, in technology and infrastructure. Our living standards increased, and our markets grew, we became the world's largest consumer market. Are we gonna make 12 carriers? No... 6 at most, enough to defend our interests, we are no hegemonic power. We Trade

China is not Iraq. It will hit america in america.

We can essentially destroy US, but we will get destroyed as well.

 

[AUz]

Well nothing wrong in preserving your interests, China is no saint nor the devil, we are all guarding our interestd after all.Once US gets out of Afghanistan, Pakistan will be discarded.

What are you even talking about? lol

For all intent and purposes, Pakistan has won the Afghan war and secured our strategic interests in the region after a long, hard, and costly war which was, at times, against U.S interests.

Pakistan will discard China or US or both if the national interests of Pakistan demanded so. For now, we are happy the way things are going

Personally, I am looking forward to U.S putting its boot down on China----it will create a more balance world order with era of super-power (US) being over, and multiple great powers emerging (China being one). Its good for regional powers like Pakistan.

 

[famoj47521]

We can essentially destroy US, but we will get destroyed as well.

You chinese have so much more sense than indians, and it shows...

if only common sense could be exported...

 

[tower9]

Hi,

It is about time for another blame game---. Last time the world saw middle east decimated by that little vial of a glass tube that Gen Collin Powell waved in the UN assembly forum---.

This time it would be Pres. Trump waving a tube that is supposedly of COVID 19 made in Wuhan China---.

The stage is being prepped and setup for the disclosure and the proof is being gathered by any mean possible---.

The US has fixated its sights on china---. Virus has created devastation in the USA as it has in many other nations---.

The world is being readied for another conflict---. Supposed proof is being gathered and will be put together in way that all fingers would be pointing towards Wuhan---.

Terrible times ahead for the world---.

Absolutely agree. The 2020s will be filled with global conflict and perhaps another destructive world war. I wouldn't rule out the Deep State resorting to nuclear weapons even. Fear of losing power leads to intense desperation. It is all or nothing.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Economic war more likely.

meanwhile top headline on CNN at the moment:

Trump administration draws up plans to punish China over coronavirus outbreak

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/30/...iplomacy-intelligence-donald-trump/index.html

 

[Philosopher]

Full on kinetic conflicts are becoming less and less likely. What we are much more likely to see are economical, cyber and media based warfares. When you have two nations that can wipe each other out, then no sane person in those lands would condone an actual war. If a war does break out, it would be most definitely out of unintended consequences rather than by design.

 

[tower9]

Hi,

I agree with all of you guys to what you wrote and posted---but----please do understand that the US is prepping and readying the stage for what is to come against China---.

Be it war---economic issues or other kind of action---if US did not have china in its sights---the tone would not be that aggressive on a continuous basis---. There would be a relief valve setup somewhere to release the pressure to diffuse the situation---. But this fire is being fed right from top down---.

This entire virus was planned from the beginning to set the stage for conflict.

 

[Trango Towers]

People tend to think this is a zero sum game, what wrong if we become number 2? We are still one of the most powerful nations on earth?

Russia collapsed because they didn't use market economy and concentrated bulk of their investments into the military. China is doing the exact opposite, while US fights war to the trillions, we use that money to build a world class HSR, we invested in science, in technology and infrastructure. Our living standards increased, and our markets grew, we became the world's largest consumer market. Are we gonna make 12 carriers? No... 6 at most, enough to defend our interests, we are no hegemonic power. We Trade


We can essentially destroy US, but we will get destroyed as well.

That's MAD. So peace will prevail. In a playground the bully only bullies those that cannot fight back