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It belongs to China

The Scarborough Shoal does belong to China which discovered it and drew it in a map as early as 1279 during the Yuan Dynasty. Chinese fishermen, from both the Mainland and Taiwan, have since used it. As a matter of fact, Guo Shoujing, (the Chinese astronomer, engineer and mathematician who worked under the Mongol ruler, Kublai Khan) performed surveying of the South China Sea, and the surveying point was the Scarborough Shoal which is considered part of the Zhongsha Islands (renamed Huangyan Island in 1983).

By contrast, the “old maps” being relied upon by our Department of Foreign Affairs in its spurious claim on the same territory were drawn up only in 1820, or 541 years after China’s. I am surprised that Senator Edgardo Angara—supposedly a renowned lawyer—can claim that a map drawn 5 centuries and 4 decades after, takes precedence over the much earlier map of China.

So, what exactly was the territory we declared independence from the US in 1946? Why is it that NONE of our constitutions, past and present, from 1899, 1935, 1943, 1973, 1986 and 1987, include either the Spratlys or the Scarborough Shoal within our declared national territory? Where, or from whom, did we, all of a sudden, acquire title to these? Out of thin air?


Victor N. Arches II
Manila Standard Today

http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/04/28/it-belongs-to-china/
 
According to Treaty of Paris(1898) between the United States and Spain, Treaty of Washington(1900) between Spain and the United States, Treaty between Great Britain and the United States(1930), Constitution of the Philippines (1935), Republic Act No. 3046 "Act to Define the Baselines of the Territorial Sea of the Philippines"(1961), and all the maps published by Philippines official until 1990s, 118th degree meridian of longitude east of Greenwich is the territorial limit line of Philippines. Scarborough Shoal is obvious outside this limits, and Philippines has never made claim or put dispute on Scarborough Shoal, which is internationally recognized as teritory of China. But in the following years, Philippines made an unilateral decision to include Scarborough Shoal as its territory, ignoring China's opposition.

Most Philippines maps published by Spain and United States in 18th and 19th century does not show Scarborough Shoal or show it as foreign territory, for example, in the same color as Malaysia and China.

Several Spanish Maps predate in 1734 and 1900 showing the Scarborough Shoal not the Philippine Territory http://www.zamboanga.net/murillomap3.jpg (there is no Scarborough Shoal in this map) and http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa281/manileno/panatag.jpg (the color of Scarborough Shoal is white, the same as Malaysia and China, thus the foreigh territory.)



Or at least Huangyan Dao doesn't belong to Philippines.
 
Yeah... in Ashokan empire we ruled till IRAN. Pakistan, Afganisthan, Iran should all owe their allegiance to us. :devil:

really there is no end to such preposterous claims.. China is a signatory of UN resolution which states it's EEZ extends to 200kms. Anything beyond that is none of it's business..

Also, can china show it's 1950's maps where it shows that shoal as Chinese territories ?
 
"The Philippines runs crying to the US, begging for assistance in its territorial dispute with China, and citing the UNCLOS as its only ground to back up its claim.

What many Filipinos do not know, however, is that the US did NOT ratify the UNCLOS! Why? Because the UNCLOS affects national sovereignty. The US refuses to be taken to the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea.

And here we are, acting like fools, asking the US to convince or even force China to do exactly what the US itself refuses to do.

That is why we are now the laughing stock of the world."


Victor N. Arches II (vnarches)
Manila Standard Today
 
so this is from Philippines media.

guess that will settle peace for this row between Phillipines and China.


by the way, what about those islands illegally occupied by Vietnam?

Islands belong to Vietnam from long time. Chinese occupied some of it with force, this is illegal action.:smokin:

It belongs to China

The Scarborough Shoal does belong to China which discovered it and drew it in a map as early as 1279 during the Yuan Dynasty. Chinese fishermen, from both the Mainland and Taiwan, have since used it. As a matter of fact, Guo Shoujing, (the Chinese astronomer, engineer and mathematician who worked under the Mongol ruler, Kublai Khan) performed surveying of the South China Sea, and the surveying point was the Scarborough Shoal which is considered part of the Zhongsha Islands (renamed Huangyan Island in 1983).

By contrast, the “old maps” being relied upon by our Department of Foreign Affairs in its spurious claim on the same territory were drawn up only in 1820, or 541 years after China’s. I am surprised that Senator Edgardo Angara—supposedly a renowned lawyer—can claim that a map drawn 5 centuries and 4 decades after, takes precedence over the much earlier map of China.

So, what exactly was the territory we declared independence from the US in 1946? Why is it that NONE of our constitutions, past and present, from 1899, 1935, 1943, 1973, 1986 and 1987, include either the Spratlys or the Scarborough Shoal within our declared national territory? Where, or from whom, did we, all of a sudden, acquire title to these? Out of thin air?


Victor N. Arches II
Manila Standard Today

It belongs to China - Manila Standard Today - Daily news, current events, latest news in the Philippines

Chinese paid for it, he he.
Official standpoint of Philippine Gov is legal.
 
so this is from Philippines media.

guess that will settle peace for this row between Phillipines and China.


by the way, what about those islands illegally occupied by Vietnam?


Taiwan sets up airborne unit for Spratlys - Channel NewsAsia

I believe China already has an understanding with Taiwan let her shares some of the work loads and she agrees. So now Taiwan most likely is going to build an air force base in Taiping Island, the biggest island in the Spratly, and ready for actions when needed.
 
Taiwan sets up airborne unit for Spratlys - Channel NewsAsia

I believe China already has an understanding with Taiwan let her shares some of the work loads and she agrees. So now Taiwan most likely is going to build an air force base in Taiping Island, the biggest island in the Spratly, and ready for actions when needed.

Where is it written the great understanding btw China and Taiwan ?

Day dreaming is very bad habit. It can become addictive :lol:
 
when were you "legally" occupy those islets?

last time I checked that they all beyond your 200 nautical mile boundary.

Vietnam's Kingdoms controlled it officially in our history without troubles with China in the past. China is just claimed it recently other than it allocated closely with 200 miles of Vietnam under UNCLOS, this is in extended area.
 
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