Fair enough, I've heard the muslims vs Jews (Zionists/whatever) argument plenty of times.
Then you haven't been paying attention.
Judaism is not equal to Zionism. There are Christians, atheists and others who are hardcore Zionists, while there are Jews who are very much against Zionism.
It is standard Israeli propaganda to deflect any criticism as anti-Semitism. When Jews critisize Israel, they are dismissed as self-hating Jews.
Also, you might want to think again about having the Saudis spread Islamic propaganda to 'influence westerners', that would probably help the 'zionists' more than the 'zionist media' helps them now.
The Saudis would be the last people we would want representing Islam. Their Wahabi extremism is an embarrassment to most Muslims.
Right...I see, a humanitarian argument.
In every sense of the word.
The Palestinian conflict is a humanitarian conflict. Given the historical facts, I would support their cause even if I wasn't Muslim.
Dude, forget about being slick and sly, you've contradicted yourself twice in this thread already.
Let me spell out the course of events.
- Theodor Herzl founded Zionism in the belief that the only solution to persecution was for the Jews to have their own country. Many choices were considered, including Ecuador and Uganda, but Palestine was a favorite because of religious and ancient historical reasons.
- The Zionists approached the Ottoman Turk ruler with a proposition, but he flatly refused.
- During the world wars, the Zionists lobbied European and American leaders to obtain support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Their efforts were rewarded in 1948 and thereafter.
- Since the whole foundation of Zionism is based around Jewish persecution, and given its success in creating Israel, it was only natural to continue with the religious theme even after Israel was established. As part of any war, it is necessary to demonize your enemy; hence the Zionist media campaign against Arabs in particular and Muslims in general.
- My statements about the media wars were in the context of retaliation for the Zionist demonization of Muslims and Arabs. However, my support for the Palestinian cause remains firmly grounded in the history of Israel/Palestine, regardless of religious affiliation.
Pakistan has enough problems of its own, you should focus on solving your own problems.
Irrelevant.
By your logic, everybody should have ignored the Holocaust, or Rwanda, or Bosnia, or Kosova, or Darfur, or Palestine.
They could have had the world on their side
Given the Zionist media domination and insider track on Western politics, there was zero chance of that.
had the Arabs not politicized the issue and given a religious twist to it.
Just because you say something does not make it right. Palestinians include Christian and Muslim Arabs. The fight for Palestine was initially a purely ethnic fight for a piece of land.
It was the Zionists who used religion to justify their claim to the land because of Abraham's Covenant.
It was they who enshrined religious bigotry within their very constitution with the "Law of Return".
It is they who use the Jewish suffering in the Holocaust to garner sympathy.
It is they who use religion to play the anti-Semitism card to deflect any criticism of Israel.
And it was the Zionists who ethnically cleansed the non-Jewish residents of Palestine because it would dilute the "Jewish nature" of the new country. For the same reason that they will not allow displaced Palestinians (read: non Jews) to return to their ancestral homes within Israel proper.
You did get a few things right, Israel simply cannot be countered by force, but the Palestinians need to help themselves and launch an honest, non violent campaign to sway world opinion.
World opinion is swayed by the media, not by events. It is the media coverage or spin of an event that affects opinion, not the event itself. The Zionist-dominated media will always portray Israel as the victim no matter what the Palestinians do.
